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Maybe we should just go ahead and start a off season thread. smh

I just find it hard that Garrett will have a job after tomorrow but then again I thought that before. I realized they had a ton of injuries today but they have got to be able to overcome enough of those against that team other teams are able to overcome injuries The defense was supposed to be the strong point they are pathetic

Kilgore played more against Chapel Hill like they did the first three weeks. Will they build on that? Will Medford play for Henderson? If so, this game is much closer. Oh, and it's a rivalry game. I'll take the Bulldogs.

Where's he at/been btw? Maybe he and I can go TV shopping together...get a discount on a bulk rate.

It's OK. Doomer just messaged me and said Ole' Red is about to run the table all the way to the Super Bowl. Said he needs a new TV after today though.

Anybody got some pitchforks and torches?

Halftime Anybody know where I can get a deal on a new TV? Maybe Doomer can help me.

If Alabama/LSU have more combined points than the Texas/OU game will we hear the phrase "bad defense"??

*long post but I feel better saying it out loud lol. What a terrible time to play your worst game of the year. First, hats off to Ou and their defense. Their improvement was the unknown wild card going into the game and they were the best unit on the field yesterday. Second, while the Texas defense played hard, they were set up to fail. Ou used jet sweep motion to move the Texas defense away from where they were running. Orlando usually attacks the run with numbers and is burned by the pass but yesterday his defense was sitting back, I assume to not get beat deep, and it made for an easy play calling day for Riley. Third, Beck/Herman/Hand has their worst day to date with the offense. The oline by far played their worst game and after last weeks game(WVU) it’s evident that they struggle with stunts from the dline. Angilau, I’ll cut a little slack, he’s a RSfr and his strength is run blocking. Kerstetter and Shackleford were repeatedly beat and really struggled. Texas came into the game wanting to use their size and toughness on the edge much like last year but Grinch watched the tape too, Ou attacked the wr screens and RB swing pass with numbers a consistently dropped Texas for losses. Texas was behind the chains all day and the Ou dline was able to pin their ears back and rush the passer. In the second half Texas made a few adjustments with Roschon and Collin Johnson but they offense stalled again after Johnson was knocked out of the game with a probable concussion. Eagles and Epps weren’t good and the offensive staff chose Brewer over Jake Smith. From Brian Davis: Texas WR Devin Duvernay on his kick return struggles: "I made a couple of bad decisions. I should have fair caught some of them. I was just trying to get something going." When the offense struggled the players started pressing. Duverney admittedly tried to do too much and it looked like that all day from the whole offense. The team didn’t play well but I thought the coaches were out coached from the start and it was the difference in the game. I will give a ton of credit to the players for not giving in and for the culture that Herman as created. Yesterday was the type of game that Mack or Strong teams lose by 3-4 TDs but this team never gave up and lost by a touchdown in a game they shouldn’t have been even close in. Texas has lost 2 games to top 5 teams by a total of 14 points. The goal of a conference championship is still there. I wish Texas wasn’t so banged up on defense because I’d like to know if the defensive issues are on Orlando or if the injuries are the biggest issue. I tend to lean towards the injuries and youth being the biggest issue but yesterday Orlando was just as big of an issue.

If OU plays like they did against Texas then I can see them hanging with both Bama and LSU.

Yea I have to admit I had y’all making the playoffs, but as a #4 seed. It’s unbelievable how a 2pt conversion changed up the whole conversation and shook the district completely up lol. Y’all have some tough kids and some really good coaches....y’all definitely deserve the #1 seed!

I don’t know if ESPN is going to be able to emotionally handle an Alabama/LSU game that is going to be 60 something to 50 something. Somehow I bet that will be okay for the committee’s “eye test”.

Mav, no need for all the stats, I agree that the Mavs have been a sold program. And I know demographics and enrollments have changed. Everybody enrollment and demographics in East TX have changed. Even Longview and JT. Despite what you think, Longview enrollment has actually slightly decreased over the past 20 yrs, although its starting to go back up. And both JT and LV black population have had significant drops. As much as I understand this can affect a program, I just watch Carthage beat you guys two yrs in a row with half the enrollment. I feel like you are giving in to a mentality of accepting the new status quo, when you say that Marshall shouldn't play LV anymore because the scores are blowouts. Im a competitive person, if I got beat bad by some one close to my peer group, I wouldn't take my ball and go home. I would want to keep playing them to try to get better. And the Pine Tree comment literally went over your head. Of course I know Marshall has to play Pine Tree because they are in your district. The point of my comment is that beating Pine Tree seems to be good enough for you, when really beating Longview should be the goal...(whether you think you can achieve it or not). Nothing against Pine Tree because they have improved alot, but lets be honest, you don't have to be that great to beat Pine Tree at this time and the fact Pine Tree has beat Marshall twice in the last 20 yrs is kinda bad. by the way, I realize JT is probably not much better than Marshall this yr.

Gotta get the frosh in now. It's obvious the issues with drops aren't going away. Need someone who's gonna come down with the ball.

I understand your points, but the only way to get better is to play better competition. Yes JT got blown out against LV (the Trinity game was a decisive win but not a blowout), but you get better going forward. You may think the LV game didn't help but actually it does. If you play stronger faster compeition, it makes you get stronger and faster. I remember as a kid playing against the older kids in the neighborhood in basketball and getting beat down everyday. But every week I came back, I got better and better and those games got closer and closer and it made me much better against my peers. If I would have been playing kids on my level or below, I would have never improved at the rate I did. I knew I needed to practice more and harder. Get stronger, etc. The improvement is gradual and comes down the road. You start playing lower and average teams, your team will become complacent. also, better teams usually have better coaching staffs. So playing better teams also helps to coaches identify their flaws. I have seen many people on smoaky complain about their teams weak non district schedules, because it didn't test them or show what flaws they have. That is what you get when you play teams you know you can beat. You wan't to play teams that show you what you need to work on. and one final thing, when you get to a certain level, its hard to schedule teams. Alot ot teams have this same mentality of only wanting to schedule teams they can beat or be competiive with. Some times, a coach is left with no choice but to find who is willing to play them.

Thoughts on this one. Anybody know the status on Medford this week? A Kilgore win would just about bury Henderson, however a Henderson win opens everything back up. This is always a great East Texas rivalry game. I think it comes down to who is healthiest at kick off.

I know I'm probably in the minority, but not a fan of the running clock.

Vasquez is going to put the Hornets on his back along with a few Mustangs and get the win!

Easy turbo.......yall prolly be bouncing balls soon enough.

I think these young men had something a lot more important than football on their minds this week!!!

The crooks part is an inside joke with @Cannon85 lol... I smoked 2 cigs reading your novel

After watching Carolina and Kyle Allen this morning and the way Kyler Murray played last year and this year, it makes you wonder what in the world was A&M thinking? How could they let these 2 guys walk. I find it unbelievable the QB talent that Sumlin had to work with. Johnny, Tannehill, Allen, Murray. I wish that Texas could recruit the QB position like the Aggies. Not sure how many College Programs have put 4 QB'S in the league (3 first round picks), in the last 7-8 years. Impressive!

If everyone is healthy for McNorth then McNorth by 14+ If you can hold their offense to 21 then you are really good on defense since they are averaging over 50 a game. Lowest output of the season in week 1 with 44. I just don’t see JT scoring consistently enough to win - even against McNorth’s D.

The tier Bama’s on and the one A&M is on are two completely different ones at this point. The number of playmakers on Bama is incredible. A&M just can’t match that on this year’s team. Year 2 has been what was expected it would be. Just relax and look at the bigger picture. Let Jimbo keep building his team and see how it turns out. He’s gonna have to take a long hard look at Henson and the play of the o-line. If nothing gets changed after the season it’s gonna be a interesting 2020.

Ingram doesnt fit well in the offense, Ehlinger let's face it, isn't a good QB. You rely too much on him and teams know that.

I think ingram is going to have to earn his spot back. I think Johnson will be the starter next week. I also think Ingram needs to be given rushing attempts like Johnson has not that delayed bunk where Shackelford gets him blown up behind the scrimmage on every attempt.

Bama’s skill players are on a different level than Texas’.

I think we all did exactly what Coach King was preaching for his players not to do. We looked at the common opponent scores and said blowout with no challenge at all. During the game that old Longview fan mentality crept back in for lots of fans. Bottom line is every game will be different and we are not the same team as last year. Things are not clicking yet like we expected, especially with the passing game and penalties. I hope we get it going. Sometimes Haynes misses the throws, then he hits them, and the receivers drop a few. It’s hard to get in sync when that happens, and it happens every game so far. Everybody in that group has things to correct. Will it happen, I hope so. Without it I don’t see up repeating. At some point in the playoffs you have to be able to run and pass and impose you will on the other team. We can’t do that yet.

Maybe his feelings. I would not be surprised if RoJo takes his place. In Herman's post-game presser there was no mention of his injuries while others were noted.

Poll is up I thought this match up needed one

Based on the following info, I’ll live forever.

3-4-5 are a toss up...

It may be so, but I don't think they'll steam roll the bux this go around.

you can slap them on the butt... but only if you are on the same team...

Well technically you ain’t lying lol

You got it 98crush, haven't heard much from the purple people eaters!!! Dawgs do their talking on the field not in the parking lot!!!

Boss came by and asked what I was doing. . Told him I was smoking.. Lol

AMC is leading Lamar Consolidated 28-0 at the half. No shock there. I think Lamar loses to Huntsville.... and probably Katy Pat as well. Whoever wins the Lamar/Katy Pat game will likely be (8-2) and travel to the 9-5A district runner up. Whoever losses that game will come to East Texas to face the 9-5A champion.

Boys will be ready. They’ve had this one slated since the 1st summer workout.

This is exactly what I’m been trying to say!!! Why would you wanna beat on teams you know you can beat! You gain NOTHING! I rather go 0-4 in the preseason and have state contending runs than to beat up on pine tree and some of the local teams and don’t even know how good we really are. Look at TH Started 3-1 played that cupcake schedule everyone thought they were better and look at them now 0-3 and possibly gonna miss the playoffs.... JT 0-4 tougher preseason schedule and now we are 3-0 and have a chance at a district title..

New Diana obviously doesn’t know Carlisle-Alto football lol

McKinney North Vs. West Mesquite- GOTW for the district. Either team winning wouldn't be a shock. Want to say MN's offense will get them the win. But WM's defense is stingy. Going to go with MN to get up a battle with JT in 2 weeks. Mesquite Poteet Vs. Wylie East- Poteet by a lot. Sherman Vs. Texas High- WInner keeps their dim playoff chances alive for another week. Loser is in trouble. I take the Tigers for the home win. John Tyler- BYE Lufkin Vs. Tomball- LP by as many as they desire Waller Vs. Magnolia West West by a landslide Magnolia Vs. College Station- CS gets back into the win column WIllis Vs. Caney Creek- Caney Creek- Toss a coin. Who knows. Forney Vs.Ennis- Ennis has Corsicana coming up.... they win easy this week. Terrell Vs. Kafuman- Another coin toss. Terrell get the win. Royce City Vs. Greenville- RC has district title aspirations. Greenville looking for their first playoff birth in almost 20 years. Bulldogs get the win. Sulphur Springs Vs. Corsicana- Gonna be ugly for SS. Tigers win comfortably North Forney- BYE Marshall Vs. Jacksonville- Close game at the half. Marshall pulls away for a double digit win in the second half. Lindale Vs. Whitehouse- Lindale gives WH their first loss in district play. Eagles want a piece of the district title. Hallsville vs. Mount Pleasant- MP gets their first district win. Pine Tree Vs. Nacogdoches- PT cruising right now.

One of the local papers said unofficially Big Sandy had under 50 yards of offense. Some folks I know said Alto might have ran 30 plays the entire game but probably had 400 yards of offense. Either way, Alto won comfortably. Good thing about the SA-Alto comparison...as long as both teams keep on winning we’ll all get to see it in person!

Oline has been very impressive...being that it was the biggest unknown to start season! Through 6 games... offense overall = B oline ........ B+ Rbs ............A wrs............c- Qb............A- defense overall = A dline ......A linebackers.......A secondary.......B Special Teams overall = B Penalties...... F Surprises: oline this good early.... defense being this good overall... passing attack struggling soo badly... Tight ends invisible Going forward: keep pounding the ball... get Jalen Hale playing time... get passing game In sync... stop the damn stupid penalties... just keep being Lobos!!!!

This is what happens when politics comes into play. It has showed the last two yrs we have put kids at QB just because they like the kid and their parents not because of talent. When traylor was here the best kids played, heck we sub like we are playing basketball I have never seen it in my life. It’s really starting to show that our OC has always been someone who translate the signals instead of calling plays.

Yea they did. Which he would’ve been the starter if it wasn’t for the new kids. But he couldn’t have thrown the ball any better. There were many times he would hit the receiver in stride right in the hands and they would drop it. I’ve never seen the starting Qb but imo this young man did a really good job. Jefferson just played with lots of motivation and jumped all over them early and never let up.

You need to get over yourself!!! By your statement you have no clue what I'm talking about, but keep chimming in. Maybe it'll make you feel better, but I doubt it. Some people just want to gripe.

Coaches didn’t lose it. B’ville played well. Tigers didn’t play bad. Many costly penalties put the Tigers behind the chains on offense. Tiger run defense is down this year. Tigers have several WR but lost some really great players to graduation in key positions..... It happens at a small school. Tigers aren’t far off and I expect them to be in the playoffs. A down year for the Tigers is a few losses here or there..... That’s a successful year for other programs. Tigers have set the bar high

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