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  1. No prob. Yeah not sure what they were thinking by not just having a list somewhere like they do for the national rankings. But it’s there for each team if you don’t care about clicking from page to page for who you care about. From doing that here is the Top 15 also: Top 15 ... 1 Argyle 2 LaVega 3 Lampasas 4 Springtown 5 Dumas 6 Needville 7 CC Calallen 8 CC Miller 9t WF Hirschi 9t PL Calhoun 11 Paris 12 Midlothian Heritage 13 Melissa 14 Decatur 15 Brownwood In 4A-D.2: 1 Pleasant Grove 2 Carthage 3 Gilmer
  2. Not sure why but there’s not just a list with the teams and rankings anywhere on there ... that I have seen at least. Every team in the state has a post on their home page called “2020 (Team Name) Team Preview” and their preseason rank for their class and division is on there under “General Information.” Here’s the one for Kilgore: https://www.maxpreps.com/m/high-schools/kilgore-bulldogs-(kilgore,tx)/football/team_preview.htm
  3. MaxPreps’ poll/rankings has it even closer and more anybody’s district than this one — 5 of the 7 teams within 9 spots of each other ... District 9-4AD1 teams ... 19 Kilgore 22 Palestine 25 Lindale 26 Henderson 28 Mabank And then Athens and Chapel Hill are 50 and 55.
  4. There’s no way Argyle doesn’t have the record for most pre-season #1 rankings with just one championship to show for it. It seems like they start off #1 every year.
  5. That’s not a perception it is the reality. Carthage has been one of the 5 or so best programs in the state of any class and division this last decade or so. But it’s that one reality that also causes the perception of Henderson to be a lot less than it should be overall. Henderson is one of the top 5 or so programs of any class and division in East Texas the last decade also. But not many people would automatically think that without looking at the numbers because of one of their 2 main rivals havinyg the ridiculous resume that Carthage does. I would have answered the phone and scheduled the non-district game for the next 2 years just so not to hear it from anybody. But there was a couple years off in like 2012-2013 or so and doing that again now is fine too. They won’t be not playing each other for long. And hopefully more points and wins for Henderson when they do. It’s a lot more fun and interesting when it’s more competitive. On the last day of the decade, Hayden Henry from the Longview paper sent the tweet below about Carthage, Gilmer, and Longview being the teams/programs of the decade for East Texas. Here’s a little more detail about those 3 for the decade that just ended and how Henderson compares ... obviously worse but not by much. It shows each team’s record by year. In parentheses are games vs Henderson. Carthage and Henderson played 2x several seasons and Gilmer and Henderson did in 2012. Henderson was a combined 2-13 vs those 2 in the 2010s. But very good against everyone else and in the playoffs. 13 of Henderson’s 37 losses overall and 4 of Henderson’s 7 playoff game losses for the decade were to Carthage and Gilmer. Henderson lost 24 games overall and 3 playoff games in 10 years to everybody else. Another interesting thing is Henderson went to at least the quarterfinals/regional finals/4th round 7 times in 10 seasons last decade. They only went further twice ... 2010 and 2011. They won state in 2010. The other six times the team that put Henderson out of the playoffs went to the championship game every time but 2018 Carthage. Navasota 14, Carthage 16, and Carthage 17 won state. The rest of them were 2nd. The interesting part is to think how many times Henderson most likely would have won or at least gone to the championship game with the current class and divisions. Because of those other six years the only one Henderson could possibly play now is 2011 Alvarado. All the others (Gilmer 12, Navasota 14, and Carthage 16/17/18) are no longer possible playoff opponents at least currently. 2010s Decade Carthage 14-2. 6-0. (W 43-33) 9-4. 2-1. (W 42-21) 11-3. 3-1. 14-1. 5-0. 6-6. 1-1. (L 38-16) 11-4. 4-1. (W 35-15) 13-2. 6-0. (L 28-36; W 33-31) 16-0. 6-0. (W 42-17; W 35-0) 14-1. 4-1. (W 34-0; W 28-7) 16-0. 6-0. (W 34-14) — Played 148 total games / 48 playoff games 125-23 (.844); 43-5 (.896) (8-2 vs Hendo) — 7 district championships 2010, 2012, 2013, 2014t, 2016, 2018, 2019 — 5 state championships 2010, 2013, 2016, 2017, 2019 Gilmer 9-4. 2-1. (W 29-28) 13-1. 3-1. (W 35-20) 14-2. 5-1. (W 28-26; W 41-34) 11-2. 2-1. (W 64-7) 16-0. 6-0. 14-1. 5-1. 13-2. 4-1. 10-3. 2-1. 6-7. 2–1. 11-4. 3-1. — Played 143 total games / 43 playoff games 117-26 (.818); 34-9 ( .791) (5-0 vs Hendo) — 5 district championships 2011, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2016 — 1 state championship 2014 Longview 10-5. 4-1. 11-2. 2-1. 9-4. 2-1. 11-2. 2-1. 9-3. 1-1. 11-3. 3-1. 8-3. 0-1. 13-2. 4-1. 16-0. 6-0. 11-1. 1-1. 109-25. 25-9. — Played 134 total games / 34 playoff games 109-25 (.813); 25-9 (.735) — 8 district championships 2010t, 2011, 2013, 2014, 2015t, 2016t, 2018, 2019 — 1 state championship 2018 Henderson 13-2. 5-0. 11-3. 3-1. 9-5. 3-1. 3-7. 0-0. 11-3. 3-1. 7-3. 0-0. 11-2. 2-1. 11-3. 3-1. 9-5. 3-1. 7-4. 0-1. 92-37. 22-7. — Played 129 total games / 29 playoff games. — 92-37 (.713); 22-7 (.759) — 2 district championships 2014t, 2016t — 1 state championship 2010
  6. Not exactly. The current Henderson coach is 2-9 vs Carthage since 2013 against some all time great Carthage teams. He started out 2–2 against them but Henderson has lost 7 in a row. Before that though Henderson beat Carthage more than Carthage beat Henderson. It would be accurate to say “since 2016” I guess. But that’s 3-4 years out of an 80-90 year rivalry
  7. It looks like MaxPreps thinks so in their pre-season state rankings. Here they are for the new district: District 9-4AD1 teams ... 19 Kilgore 22 Palestine 25 Lindale 26 Henderson 28 Mabank 50 Athens 55 Chapel Hill So they have Athens and CH at 50 & 55 and then the 5 other teams are all within 9 spots of each other. That means basically 5 teams all about even with no clear favorite that could each end up anywhere from first to fifth. BTW, in 4A-D2 they have PG, Carthage and Gilmer 1/2/3 in the state to start. The top 15 for D1 is: 1 Argyle 2 LaVega 3 Lampasas 4 Springtown 5 Dumas 6 Needville 7 CC Calallen 8 CC Miller 9t WF Hirschi 9t Port Lavaca Calhoun 11 Paris 12 Midlothian Heritage 13 Melissa 14 Decatur 15 Brownwood Sabine is #3 and Gladewater is #8 in 3A-D1.
  8. Which district is that? Whatever districts those 4 are from that’s what districts you’re seeing there. Lol
  9. It took longer for 10,000 people to clear the stadium and parking lots after that Henderson/Kilgore playoff game then for 100,000 people to clear the stadium and lots in Arlington after a Cowboys game. Not joking or exaggerating.
  10. Whitehouse visitor side is better than the home side.
  11. Henderson non-district is: Hallsville Gilmer Jacksonville Spring Hill Scrimmages are Nac and Center
  12. Henderson non-district games are: Hallsville Gilmer Jacksonville Spring Hill Scrimmages are Nac and Center
  13. Henderson is pretty good this year. They would have their hands full with Paris but could probably handle any of the others from that district.
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