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Who’s the crybaby that brought up A&M in this…? It wasn’t me. I was discussing Texas recruiting without a single word of A&M until you brought A&M into it.

That ON3 stuff are not real nil numbers. It’s “nil potential” which is some weird formula used by ON3 based on social media following and some other factors. It should not be used as factual data.

No I’m not a poster on any site but this one.

Absolutely false. Get on the 24/7 board right now and you’ll see the mods predicting a 8 win season pointing out all the flaws in the team (tarp) and then you’ll see Perroni not even put in a crystal ball on a kid until he’s all but told its a silent commit. It is NOTHING like roach and the Texas site that every kid gets a Texas crystal ball once offered and then is changed if they get wind the kid isn’t leaning Texas.

Texags is the bottom of the barrel for A&M sites. It’s equivalent to orangebloods with Ketch. Im referencing more to 24/7 where the sites are all employed by CBS. Tarp and Perroni are extremely cynical towards A&M and often are behind even opposing team mods in projecting recruits to A&M. Texas mods (Roach) will literally crystal ball (means predict if you’re not familiar) nearly every single kid Texas even offers as a Texas lean and then changes it before the kids actually commit to opposing schools if they feel differently. Texas mods on nearly every site are EXTREMELY bad about just telling fans what they want to hear to keep subs up. I’ll agree with you Texags is the same way, but that’s the exception to A&M recruiting sites not the norm. The other sites tend to be more pessimistic than optimistic. You can poll OU fans, LSU fans, Bama fans etc and they will all tell you the same thing regarding Texas sites and their mods. It leads to overconfidence regarding Texas recruiting and explains why they are so willing to accept that NIL is the sole reason kids choose schools other than Texas. Because their mods provide them with information that is not accurate in order to keep subs high.

Exactly. Texas fans just can’t handle the thought of a kid not playing at Texas. If he goes somewhere else it’s because he was paid. If he goes to Texas after they broadcast deals for oline on the spot he chose them for their academics not the money. It all stems from their recruiting boards. They are the softest and most entitled fanbase in the country. Their mods know this and therefore only write fluff pieces. 95% of their early offers to juniors their mods crystal ball them to Texas and tell them “Texas has a very strong lead here, he grew up a longhorn fan etc.” Most of the time it’s not true the kid is truly open to anyone. So when the kid does indeed go somewhere else or the team is mediocre-bad like they have been majority of the decade, the fans automatically point to they were paid to go somewhere else there’s not way a kid doesn’t choose Texas when they were his early favorite etc. So essentially the mods lying to them for appeasement and clicks has inflated their soft bias.

Come sign with Texas as an oline player and get 50k on the spot…=Not buying players. Internet rumor of buying players without a single shred of evidence EVER provided by you or any of the other lying pos individuals on the internet. = buying players. You’re either the best troll on the internet or the stupidest human being alive. I’m pretty sure I know which one it is….

Says the low IQ individual who actually believes Sark and the university that literally broadcasted a 50k on the spot deal “pay for play” for oline players with the same coach.

Exactly. Texas boasted about their OL deal at the time, then their fans blasted NIL when A&M signed their class, now they pick and choose when NIL is something they are “good” at or not. Sark is a liar if he says they don’t recruit kids who are interested in NIL, and Baron and anyone like him that believes it is an idiot.

That is the way it was for a while. Florida, Georgia, South Carolina and A&M were enough that if they all voted together to prevent expansion into another in state school they had the votes to do so. Adding Texas and OU was just too attractive from a money standpoint and everyone knows Florida st, Miami, and Clemson are coming at some point in the future anyway so they might as well just let it happen. Money isn’t necessarily just made by bringing in new tv regions but also by adding “star power” to the conference. Even if the tv market share remains the same the sec bargaining power for bigger tv deals is better with more elite names in the conference.

I agree I think all 3 offer enough none of the 3 are a bad choice and non of the 3 are the type where you have to go there because it’s head and shoulders above the rest. All three will be in the same conference and offer very similar nfl opportunities as well as title opportunities. I don’t think it’s a highest bidder situation either though because they are all going to offer a good situation for NIL. I think it boils down to where he feels he fits the best. Thats how I feel for most kids. It’s not they are bought by certain schools more than others, they just “fit” or “feel” better there at the time. None of these elite schools are letting themselves get “outbid” to the point they can’t compete.

Major click bait trolling on this one lol.

I completely agree.

That’s fair. I do believe that there are times when every collective is going to throw money at positions of need depending on the cycle. Since you are one of the only ones on this site capable of discussing Texas without bringing up A&M I do have a question for you. How big of factor do you think NIL is for these kids on average? Like for instance let’s say Texas and another school are both prioritizing the same position/player, should we assume which ever school the player commits to is because nil swayed them?

look I didn’t address you originally. You felt the need to chime in Aggie related material because for some reason every Texas fan thinks if a kid doesn’t commit to you it’s because they were bought by someone else. There can be no other explanation. You know that’s where you comment was leaning and you knew what you were doing. Don’t tell me to lighten up when we could have had a perfectly logical conversation about Texas/NIL without having involving A&M.

I didn’t claim it. Shannon Terry said it. And yes they are one of the most aggressive even with your lost. Top 4 isn’t aggressive?

WHAT DOES A&M HAVE TO DO WITH TEXAS???? You keep trying to make this a comparison between the two and it has nothing to do with my original two questions. Even if you use your article Texas is top 4 in collectives so it’s not like they are just getting massively outbid for these kids. And some of them are committing to schools lower on your collective list. None of that has anything to do with A&M. Are you able to to discuss your program without bringing up A&M as your answer to everything?

So you’re saying Shannon Terry is lying? Misinformed? And could you show some proof about what A&M is spending. That statement just doesn’t add up to what is really being reported. https://theeagle.com/sports/college/aggiesports/aggie-athletes-double-nil-compensation/article_5bb00c16-1798-11ee-9ca1-9b24ed2fbc06.html#:~:text=Aggie athletes made %244%2C173%2C656.82 in,1%2C 2023. This states A&M athletes made 8 mil last year. https://www.kxan.com/tracking-name-image-likeness/longhorns-earned-15-5m-in-nil-deals-so-far-new-information-now-limited-by-texas-law/amp/ This states Texas athletes made 15 mil last year. 13 mil just on football and men’s basketball. Something is not adding up here. Shannon Terry is making one statement. The self reporter university numbers seem to reflect that statement. You claim something different. Are you lying? Misinformed?

But what does that have to do with the current discussion? I asked two direct questions. First was if Texas “is one of the most aggressive collectives this cycle” how are they not landing the kids they are prioritizing (and then blaming nil when they don’t.) It’s contradictory. And the second question was what makes ANTI feel Texas is all but a lock for Kobe Black. Neither of those two questions has anything to do with A&M.

Can I ask like truly a serious question? What makes you believe Texas “should” get both? There’s only one crystal ball out in for Black and it’s from a Texas mod. The kid has been to A&M 6 times in the last year. Been to Texas once. He’s choosing to attend the A&M big recruiting weekend over the Texas one. Im simply asking what makes you think he’s a Texas lock unless NIL lures him away? I’m not saying he doesn’t go to Texas, I am simply asking what makes him a lock from one official visit.

I’ve read Texas is near the top of the food chain when it comes to NIL. Any ideas why they are not landing kids they are prioritizing if NIL is the wildcard (main factor?)

I do. It’s my hypothetical

There’s a discrepancy with sos now. That’s why I say do away with conferences and make everyone make the playoff. There’s literally nothing to gain or lose by scheduling except ticket sales. The 64 teams draw for seeding and everyone makes the playoff so sos doesn’t matter. and I’m cool with 12 games, it will just bump the champion to playing 18 games which is getting up there for college athletes.

My thoughts were if you allow everyone to make the playoff then you encourage both sides of the spectrum. You will get some really exciting matchups because there’s no downside to losing except potential seeding, and you’ll get some teams to play the lesser schools for their paydays without them wrecking your shot at a title with a fluke upset. So it actually helps the lesser schools get shots against better programs probably. For those saying Bama is scared to play cincy type games, there’s no downside to Bama to play it anymore if a loss doesn’t hurt so why not throw it on the schedule.

Here is a random thought. How would the game work if there were no conferences? What if a group of 64 power 5 teams left the ncaa and started its new thing, then basically broke up the conferences and negotiated its own schedules like independents. Everyone schedules 10 games for regular season. At seasons end everyone makes a single elimination 64 team playoff. Champion would play in 16 games which is pretty much what we have now with the expanded playoff. Tv contracts are negotiated for the group as a whole and split among all teams. The networks can bid for high profile games each week.