mr.sasquatch

That may be true, but when was the last Super Bowl the won...in fact, how long has it been since they have won a playoff game? I'm not saying that the boys don't have a great history or program, but they've been pretty stale lately. Just let the Saints and their fans enjoy this victory just like they have always done for everyone else.

Well actually the NCAA didnt take any action against Spikes, it was all Meyer. At least he did something, but a half isnt really punishment enough. If they are going to suspend a player for a year for something he said, they need to be just as harsh on people who are trying to inflict possibly permanent damage.

i wouldn't say he was murdered, but i also wouldn't say he wasn't...i would imagine it would be awfully hard to shoot yourself with a 12 gauge. very sad situation.

i don't think that the big 12 has no defense, i think its the fact that the offenses are so good that it makes the defenses look bad.

Does 45-35 look familiar...I saw enough signs at the A&M-UT with that score...not to mention a plane pulling a banner with it during Bedlam...before you down a team for downing another team you should make sure your fans aren't doing the same.

Counting your eggs a little early arent you? OU has always had issues in Stillwater, and the Cowboys have never been this good...im not saying that OSU will win, but i wouldn't be surprised if O-state wins...

So just throwin this one out there, not likely, but what if all three teams lose? then there will be a 4 way tie with one of the two Oklahoma schools going to the big 12 championship, as well as getting the bcs bids. i mean its highly unlikely...but its still possible if UT and Tech dont take care of business.

I might be mistaken, but didnt OU, Tech, and every other Big 12 south team play almost the same schedule?

I don't know about OSU beating them in stillwater, im a cowboy fan, but i dont know if the friendly confines of Boone Pickens Stadium could have helped the Cowboys defense. Harrell tore apart that defense, and after seeing how well composed harrell is, i dont think that the sooners defense can stop the Tech passing game.

As a neutral party, i have to say that Tech did get away with holding in that game, but i also saw some holding and illegal blocks on UTs side as well that went uncalled, so i think that the calling was fair, albeit very lenient.

This is assuming that the three teams finish with one loss

OK, so assume that Tech wins against UT tonight, but loses to OSU next week, how do they decide who plays in the ship? Is it by points scored?

Well considering that they still have to play tech and OSU, if their defense keeps playing like they do they won't finish in the top ten, much less play for the championship.

Yea and OSU might actually be able to win a bowl game :whome:

i agree, i wouldnt be surprised if O-who dropped at least one of those two

its actually just a sleeve designed specifically to supposedly keep the arm warm...but i think most guys wear it to look pretty. I think it looks pretty good, but im pretty sure it serves no purpose.

OSU's O-line is pretty good, i don't think they'll have as much problem with UT's D-line as every one thinks they will...except maybe Orakpo, that guy is an absolute beast.

Yea but can McCoy stay in his fantasy zone the rest of the season? i doubt it

i didnt say anything about them bein able to win the game, just that they deserved to be in it more...OU is a classic choke job, they showed that last saturday after giving up 2 pretty good sized leads. (im not taking anything away from UT, they played hard and deserved that win.)

Good point, i guess we'll have to see if they can get enough pressure on McCoy and Bradford to make them make bad decisions.

i dont want to hear treatin OU like they didnt lose, LSU lost two weeks before the end of the season last year and jumped OU after the Sooners thrashed the #1 team in the nation, seems sort of suspicious to me...i love to see OU lose, dont get me wrong, but i think they deserved to be in the 'ship more that LSU did, plus Ohio State cant win a bowl game lately.

they still need to work on that zone...still quite a few holes that mccoy and bradford will pick apart.

Yea i got to go with Navy on this one, the SEC was a dissapointment last year, and its no different this year, one or two decent teams, which couldnt hang with the big 12, they definately get way too much attention.

im sayin that tatum kills in football and basketball, but in the only sport worth talkin about (baseball) harleton wins easy, unless tatum improves a lot this year.

next year we'll get a chance to seee big 12 vs sec when georgia visits oklahoma state in week one.