Smoaky

You make a great point about the head-to-head between Hooks and Elysian Fields... However that was back in September, and eventually there has to be a statue of limitations, right? Secondly, while Hooks' two losses are to our current #1 and #2, there is very little separation from 1-10 in Class 2-A, if not deeper than that. Meanwhile, Elysian Fields must and will get credit for beating previously-unbeaten Troup, and the same Troup team that beat Tatum. Smoaky

I wasn't there---so I can't comment. Smoaky

Class 5-A: 1. Lufkin (8-0)(@ Magnolia) 2. Longview (6-2)(@ Mesquite) 3. John Tyler (3-5)(vs. Tyler Lee) 4. Mesquite (6-2)(vs. Longview) 5. Tyler Lee (6-2)(vs. John Tyler) 6. North Mesquite (4-4)(vs. Mesquite Horn) 7. Mesquite Horn (1-7)(vs. North Mesquite) Class 4-A: 1. Texas High (8-0)(vs. Sulphur Springs) 2. Whitehouse (7-1)(vs. Marshall) 3. North Lamar (6-2)(vs. Lindale) 4. Paris (6-2)(@ Mount Pleasant) 5. Marshall (5-3)(@ Whitehouse) 6. Hallsville (5-3)(vs. Jacksonville) 7. Nacogdoches (4-4)(vs. Pine Tree) 8. Kilgore (5-3)(@ Henderson) 9. Jacksonville (5-3)(@ Hallsville) 10. Lindale (6-2)(@ North Lamar) Class 3-A: 1. Gilmer (8-0)(vs. Spring Hill) 2. Liberty-Eylau (6-2)(vs. Mount Vernon) 3. Diboll (7-1)(vs. Crockett) 4. Rains (7-1)(vs. Community) 5. Palestine (6-2)(vs. Mexia) 6. Crockett (5-3)(@ Diboll) 7. Rusk (5-3)(vs. Center) 8. Canton (5-3)(@ Van) 9. Carthage (6-2)(@ Huntington) 10. Brownsboro (5-3)(@ Bullard) Class 2-A: 1. Paul Pewitt (8-0)(vs. Daingerfield) 2. New Boston (7-1)(@ Hughes Springs) 3. Newton (5-2)(vs. Woodville) 4. DeKalb (7-1)(@ Clarksville) 5. Troup (7-1)(vs. Timpson) 6. Tatum (6-2)(@ Elysian Fields) 7. Winnsboro (7-1)(@ Hawkins) 8. Harleton (7-1)(vs. Union Grove) 9. Jefferson (7-1)(vs. Big Sandy) 10. Elysian Fields (6-2)(vs. Tatum) Class 1-A: 1. Alto (8-0)(vs. Cross Roads) 2. Joaquin (7-1)(vs. Carlisle) 3. Lovelady (7-1)(vs. West Sabine) 4. Groveton (7-1)(@ Chester) 5. Tenaha (6-2)(vs. Mount Enterprise, Saturday) 6. Beckville (6-2)(vs. Overton) 7. Union Hill (7-1)(vs. Simms Bowie) 8. Carlisle (7-1)(@ Joaquin) 9. Grapeland (6-2)(@ Cayuga) 10. Overton (5-3)(@ Beckville)

Wow, what a weekend, especially in 2A and 3A---I've never seen anything like it---and with two unranked 2A teams beating unbeaten and highly-ranked teams...it really forced a complete change in the 2A poll. Quite frankly, I almost had to start all over again. No, it's not normal for an unbeaten number-one team to fall so far down in the rankings, especially losing by five on the road, but this just happened to be the perfect storm, and the "wrong" weekend for Jefferson to lose. Both Harleton and Elysian Fields had to move into the poll with their wins...and with other results...and previous results----I did everything possible to be as fair as possible. Maybe I'm wrong, but I truly believe I "might" have a legitimate answer for most any question... I know some of you will wonder where is the rhyme or reason----but if you dig into everyone's record, their wins, losses, and strength of schedule---it should make more sense. Okay, that's probably impossible. The great news is unlike Division One-A in college football, we have a playoff system. Class 5-A: 1. Lufkin (8-0)(Beat The Woodlands 31-7) 2. Longview (6-2)(Beat John Tyler 28-21) 3. John Tyler (3-5)(Lost to Longview 28-21) 4. Mesquite (6-2)(Beat Mesquite Horn 42-12) 5. Tyler Lee (6-2)(Beat North Mesquite 17-14) 6. North Mesquite (4-4)(Lost to Tyler Lee 17-14) 7. Mesquite Horn (1-7)(Lost to Mesquite 42-12) Class 4-A: 1. Texas High (8-0)(Beat Lindale 62-14) 2. Whitehouse (7-1)(Beat Henderson 20-12) 3. North Lamar (6-2)(Beat Mount Pleasant 33-27/OT) 4. Paris (6-2)(Beat Sulphur Springs 28-15) 5. Marshall (5-3)(Lost to Nacogdoches 27-20) 6. Hallsville (5-3)(Beat Kilgore 17-10) 7. Nacogdoches (4-4)(Beat Marshall 27-20) 8. Kilgore (5-3)(Lost to Hallsville 17-10) 9. Jacksonville (5-3)(Beat Pine Tree 23-3) 10. Lindale (6-2)(Lost to Texas High 62-14) Class 3-A: 1. Gilmer (8-0)(Beat Mineola 62-12) 2. Liberty-Eylau (6-2)(Did Not Play) 3. Diboll (7-1)(Beat Center 28-20) 4. Rains (7-1)(Beat Quinlan Ford 27-3) 5. Palestine (6-2)(Lost to Madisonville 28-14) 6. Crockett (5-3)(Beat Carthage 43-0) 7. Rusk (5-3)(Beat Huntington 51-0) 8. Canton (5-3)(Beat Brownsboro 13-8) 9. Carthage (6-2)(Lost to Crockett 43-0) 10. Brownsboro (5-3)(Lost to Canton 13-8) Class 2-A: 1. Paul Pewitt (8-0)(Beat Queen City 34-6) 2. New Boston (7-1)(Beat Daingerfield 35-28) 3. Newton (5-2)(Beat Hemphill 39-5) 4. DeKalb (7-1)(Beat Rivercrest 42-21) 5. Troup (7-1)(Lost to Elysian Fields 24-21) 6. Tatum (6-2)(Beat West Rusk 76-0) 7. Winnsboro (7-1)(Beat Como-Pickton 53-0) 8. Harleton (7-1)(Beat Jefferson 12-7) 9. Jefferson (7-1)(Lost to Harleton 12-7) 10. Elysian Fields (6-2)(Beat Troup 24-21) Class 1-A: 1. Alto (8-0)(Beat Cayuga 61-0) 2. Joaquin (7-1)(Beat Tenaha 40-14) 3. Lovelady (7-1)(Beat Colmesneil 56-0) 4. Groveton (7-1)(Beat Burkeville 48-0) 5. Tenaha (6-2)(Lost to Joaquin 40-14) 6. Beckville (6-2)(Beat Carlisle 34-14) 7. Union Hill (7-1)(Beat Karnack 78-0) 8. Carlisle (7-1)(Lost to Beckville 34-14) 9. Grapeland (6-2)(Beat Cushing 34-18) 10. Overton (5-3)(Beat Mount Enterprise 27-23)

lobo4life, You're wrong---although it does appear to be a formality. If JT loses their last two, and North Mesquite wins their last two---North Mesquite could slip in based on head-to-head tiebreaker. Again, I don't see that happening---but the possibility means it's not decided. Smoaky

District 11-5A: Bryan Adams 21 Dallas Sunset 19 Dallas Skyline 37 W.T. White 7 Dallas Carter 47 Dallas Molina 7 District 12-5A: Longview 28 John Tyler 21 Tyler Lee 17 North Mesquite 14 Mesquite 42 Mesquite Horn 12 District 15-5A: Lufkin 31 The Woodlands 7 College Park 24 Conroe 21 Magnolia 21 Oak Ridge 11 District 16-5A: Klein Forest 30 Klein Oak 14 Spring Westfield 24 Klein 3 Spring 35 Klein Collins 11 District 11-4A: Texas High 62 Lindale 14 North Lamar 33 Mount Pleasnt 27 (OT) Paris 28 Sulphur Springs 15 District 12-4A: Hallsville 17 Kilgore 10 Whitehouse 20 Henderson 12 Jacksonville 23 Pine Tree 3 Nacogdoches 27 Marshall 20 District 10-3A: Commerce 40 Community 13 Rains 27 Quinlan Ford 3 Royse City 31 Wills Point 21 District 13-3A: Crandall 61 Eustace 7 Mabank 58 Ferris 0 Kaufman 14 Kemp 13 District 14-3A: Van 36 Athens 14 Canton 13 Brownsboro 8 Chapel Hill 34 Bullard 6 District 15-3A: Gilmer 62 Mineola 12 Gladewater 35 White Oak Spring Hill 41 Sabine 7 District 16-3A: Atlanta 49 Pittsburg 19 Pleasant Grove 27 Mount Vernon 7 District 19-3A: Groesbeck 38 Fairfield 14 Madisonville 28 Palestine 14 Mexia 41 Palestine Westwood 27 District 20-3A: Crockett 43 Carthage 0 Diboll 28 Center 20 Rusk 51 Huntington 0 District 21-3A: West Orange-Stark 40 Jasper 0 Kirbyville 27 Bridge City 12 Silsbee 28 Hardin-Jefferson 3 Hamshire-Fannett 20 Orangefield 7 District 12-2A: Caddo Mills 40 Palmer 0 Edgewood 41 Oak Cliff 21 Lone Oak 44 Scurry-Rosser 6 District 15-2A: DeKalb 42 Rivercrest 21 Clarksville 21 Honey Grove 20 Prairiland 19 Cooper 7 District 16-2A: Grand Saline 49 Alba-Golden 13 Winnsboro 53 Como-Pickton 0 Quitman 36 Hawkins 7 District 17-2A: New Boston 35 Daingerfield 28 Hooks 13 Hughes Springs 7 Linden-Kildare 56 Redwater 18 Paul Pewitt 34 Queen City 6 District 18-2A: Union Grove 18 Harmony 6 Big Sandy 44 Winona 28 Harleton 12 Jefferson 7 New Diana 42 Ore City 6 District 19-2A: Arp 44 Garrison 32 Elysian Fields 24 Troup 21 Tatum 76 West Rusk 0 Waskom 24 Timpson 14 District 20-2A: Corsicana Mildred 26 Blooming Grove 23 Frankston 47 Rice 17 Kerens 37 Malakoff 21 District 22-2A: Mart 55 Buffalo 14 Elkhart 39 Centerville 7 Leon 25 Riesel 8 Marlin 17 Teague 14 District 23-2A: Corrigan-Camden 28 Woodville 14 Newton 39 Hemphill 5 San Augustine 35 Shelbybille 14 District 17-1A: Celeste 33 Quinlan Boles 28 Cumby 57 Fruitvale 12 Wolfe City 70 Dallas A+ Academy 0 District 19-1A: Simms Bowie 35 Detroit 0 Union Hill 78 Karnack 0 District 20-1A: Beckville 34 Carlisle 14 Joaquin 40 Tenaha 14 Overton 27 Mount Enterprise 23 District 21-1A: Alto 61 Cayuga 0 Grapeland 34 Cushing 18 Cross Roads 36 Oakwood 6 District 23-1A: Groveton 48 Burkeville 16 West Sabine 63 Chester 6 Lovelady 56 Colmesneil 0 Private/TAPPS: T.K. Gorman 30 Dallas First Baptist 15 Grace Community 27 Dallas Episcopal 17 Brook Hill 48 Frisco Legacy Christian 21

I will remember Winnsboro's win against Harleton--- Smoaky

Harleton and Elysian Fields will both jump into the Top 10---and it will be interesting to figure out how high---but they will "both" be ranked---at probably the expense of some teams who actually won tonight. Smoaky

As I mentioned on my sports talk show a year ago---I will remain in the prediction business with most any game in East Texas---but I've gotten away from the prediction business involving JT, REL, and Longview. I'm too close to those three programs, and with our broadcasts involving JT and REL---it's unprofessional to predict a game I'm personally involved with. Kirk Herbstreit has started doing the same thing on ESPN---it's just something that's smart. I hate the "coach talk", turnovers, etc---but I do think the winner of the turnover battle tonight, wins the JT-Longview game. Smoaky

Absolutely, but this list is compiled from a lot of source, BUT---I am not afraid to check out a legit high-level player that could slide under the radar. I'm open to suggestions and feedback... Smoaky

lobo4life, I looked at my list---and you're right, Booker's size could be a problem...but honestly, I couldn't put out a list of the Top 30 without a Lobo! This team isn't nearly as college-talented, but I love the way they play---hard, and Booker is one of the few getting any looks, Lacy, and a couple of others will too---but I couldn't do the list without a Lobo. Smoaky

There are probably 25-40 players who could be on this list, but 30 is 30, so for now, no...but it's always changing. Smoaky

Unfortunately, I don't get to see everyone play, but I've seen quite a few---any suggestions should be emailed directly to me at [email protected]. This Top 30 is based on conversations with coaches at the high school and college level, and other sources. (As of 10-25-06) 1. Ryan Mallett, QB, Texas High (Michigan) 2. Curtis Brown, WR/CB, Gilmer (Texas) 3. Dez Bryant, WR, Lufkin 4. Lennon Creer, RB, Tatum 5. Michael Huey, OL, Kilgore (Texas) 6. Tekerrein Cuba, DB, Tyler Lee 7. Kendall Hunter, RB, John Tyler 8. Justin Sturns, ATH, Rusk 9. Lonnie Edwards, OL, Brownsboro (Baylor) 10. G.J. Kinne, QB, Gilmer (Baylor) 11. Jacob Amie, WR, Tyler Lee (Texas Tech) 12. Gilbert Moye, ATH, Diboll 13. Darnius Moore, CB, Tatum 14. Dominique Buchanan, LB, Gilmer (Baylor) 15. Marquis Franklin, OT, John Tyler 16. Terrance Ganaway, RB, DeKalb (SMU) 17. Roderick Warren, WR, John Tyler 18. Kevin Cheathum, WR, Mount Pleasant (UTEP) 19. A.J. Penson, LB, Lufkin 20. Carmen Boyd-Anderson, RB, Jacksonville 21. Chris Tuck, WR, 6-5, 200, 4.6 (Kansas) 22. Marcus Bowman, QB, Carthage 23. Ralph Thomas, WR/CB, Lufkin 24. Chris Davis, RB, Troup 25. Luke Shivers, LB/RB, Whitehouse 26. Jarvis Crawford, RB, Van (Rice) 27. Jeremy Claybon, QB, Lufkin 28. Gordon Booker, OL, Longview 29. Tyler Fleet, TE, Tyler Lee (Track/Discus) 30. Gerald Gooden, LB, Hooks (UTEP) 30. Simpson Rushing, OL, Athens (UTEP) (Will Middlebrooks, QB/K/P/DB, Liberty-Eylau not listed, but has signed a baseball scholarship with Texas A&M)

myronyellow, Coach Thompson has done a nice job in his first year at MP, and I don't know this---but I'm sure his schedule was setup by the previous people. I never knew of Coach Thompson dodging anyone when at Garrison, so I don't think he'll do that when he gets a chance to make out his own schedule. There aren't many 4A programs in East Texas, hence the two districts---so you're always going to have to schedule 1-2 3A's in non-district...and those 3A's can be salty around here. Smoaky

Those who don't like Theismann are mad because he found a way to beat the Cowboys. Smoaky