miltonbradley

elowell...come on man

I think the fact that you have to put athletic director in quotation marks tells you all you need to know. This is not school sports. This is a "select" team. That's not to say that there is no politics in school sports, but I have seen coaches play kids that they couldn't stand because they knew it gave them the best chance to win. Find a new organization.

Lol at all the "this generation is soft" garbage. If the coach has a relationship with the player that lets him hold the player accountable like that, then so be it. Where it becomes a problem is when every coach feels like they are entitled to do it and if someone doesn't like it, "they're soft." Keep up the chest beating about how all you guys are tougher than today's generation. The generation before you called you soft, too.

I think this is turning into a different discussion. Regardless of the platform, coaches/teachers/staff/adults should not be having inappropriate contact and conversations with students. These issues are much more about the person involved than the platform or media being used.

Well...tomorrow when you wake up, find something to be happy about. If you've been in the school business as long as you say you have I'm sure you can find some things to look back on and smile about. Then you might consider yourself to be a lucky old man.

You guys are killing me with all this pining for the good old days and patting each other on the back...there are some tremendous kids out there today and you do them a huge disservice by assuming they are like some spoiled punk you read about on facebook. Give me a break. "We tend to characterize others based on their worst actions and judge ourselves based on our best intentions." -- Heard W say that at the funeral service for the slain Dallas officers. I think it's pretty applicable to the attitude on this thread.

I'm not sure that you're making a lot of sense as you've decided to play the victim in your chosen profession. Many parents do have very unrealistic expectations for their children but most parents know their kids aren't going pro. Your job is to help them get the most out of their time in your program and support them along the way. If you want to debate whose responsibility it is to control the behavior of players during games that one is easy...it is the responsibility of the coach. Coaches throughout the state have been dealing with entitled kids and parents for a long, long time and the ones who are the most successful take full responsibility for the actions of their players and create an environment that does not tolerate negativity or selfishness. I do really like that quote in your signature. John Wooden is one of the best!

Do you think there is ever a sense of entitlement among coaches that have been in the business for awhile or have been allowed to do whatever they want without any oversight or accountability? Part of that job is accountability to the community, student-athletes, other coaches and school board. When I re-read the threads, I see people reliving their own glory days and idolizing a coach who often cussed them or treated them with very little respect. I doubt they had the same feelings as players and I'm sure there are plenty out there who do not want their own children to experience that type of "character building."

I'm sure they wish they hadn't hired him to begin with.

Bump it up...don't want this to get to the second page anytime soon!

Board games are my life, but I could have sworn this one got filled. Maybe time to let it go.

Still a thread, huh...awesome

Did you have a pretty good relationship with that kid, BCP? I'm guessing that he looked at you like a father, uncle, big brother, etc. As a coach you know who you can deal with a certain way and who you ought to be a little more reserved with. Some need a pop on the helmet and the others you just sit on the bench because you know the pop on the helmet will do more harm than good. I think you guys all appreciate that stuff a little more now than you did back then, too.

I think my problem is your, and others', insistence that this requires you too belittle, curse, or knock someone around to prepare them for the real world. I'm not real sure what you are missing about my point, but you seem to believe that we all live in some sort of "Full Metal Jacket" scenario. In the real world, if you cuss and kick your employees or those you lead, you'll can and should be fired. The real world, and Texas high school football included, is not a life or death situation most of the time, and those who have learned to lead rather than been intimidated into compliance will win that battle every time. I think my problem is your, and others', insistence that this requires you too belittle, curse, or knock someone around to prepare them for the real world. I'm not real sure what you are missing about my point, but you seem to believe that we all live in some sort of "Full Metal Jacket" scenario. In the real world, if you cuss and kick your employees or those you lead, you'll can and should be fired. The real world, and Texas high school football included, is not a life or death situation most of the time, and those who have learned to lead rather than been intimidated into compliance will win that battle every time.

The mentality that kept us the greatest nation on earth was one that was built on accountability and that everyone was responsible for doing their jobs. It was not one that said certain rules apply to some but not others or that you don't have to show respect for those you are charged with leading/serving. I'm not sure what you call me down in Colmesneil, but there have been feminists and milksops around for a long time. Kids who are soft or do not want to work have been around for a long time. Parents who coddled their children and questioned their coaches have been around for a long time. There are kids out there in football programs who would run through a brick wall for their coaches and teammates and they haven't been cussed at or treated like dogs. Once again, you cling to the mentality that coaches should be above this accountability and able to treat others any way they want to because they are the coach. If this is your mentality as a coach, stop playing the victim, man up, and take responsibility for yourself.