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I read it differently. I thought he was saying that we would never know whether or not BH was going to let Alto "roll them up" (because the game didn't take place). Either way, the whole discussion about who did or didn't "want some" is silly. I suspect the kids on both teams were looking forward to the game.

GAH is correct that no one will ever know how how the canceled game would have turned out. Next season is a new season.

I think I can shed a little light on the 7%/10% question. My understanding is that a few years ago the state legislature passed a law which states that no state school is required to admit more than 75% of its incoming freshman class under the top 10% rule. This change was largely at UT's urging because top 10% students were taking up virtually the entire incoming class. The 7% and 8% figures posted above represent the estimated cutoff for UT. In other words, once UT admits all of the top 1%, 2%, etc. they reach about 75% of their class after admitting top 7%'ers. (The remainder of the class is 15% residents not in the top 7%, and 10% nonresidents). As I understand it, the law applies to all state schools. But, all other schools, including A&M, are apparently able to admit all top 10%'ers without exceeding 75% of the incoming class. I would not be surprised if A&M has to move to 9% or 8% in the future. BTW, I don't hold myself out as an authority on this and stand to be corrected. I have two kids in college right now and this is what I recall from various meetings I attended and reading that I did when my kids were deciding where to go.

What Board?

Size of school is largely irrelevant when dealing with private schools. There are no geographical boundaries and they get to choose who they admit and who they do not.

Good post and I agree with most of it but it is a little bit of a stretch to say that Waskom is "historically good". Waskom has 11 winning seasons in the last 30, and that is counting the current season and giving them credit for a winning season last year when 7 wins were forfeited. They certainly have not been a historically bad program, but they really haven't been good either. Waskom has definitely had some really good teams through the years, just not with a great deal of regularity. On the other hand, CC has had 25 winning seasons in the last 30 years and has been better than "good." Having said that, I tend to think that Waskom is the favorite unless the turnover bug bites them too often.

Garrison/16/1931 (first 10-win season in 1954). Also, it should not be surprising that schools are seeing an uptick in 10-win seasons. As more and more teams make the playoffs, more teams are getting the opportunity to extend their seasons and pick up that 10th win. Eleven of Garrison's are from 1994 to present. Compare that to 1967 through 1970 when Garrison had 35 wins against 6 losses - and only played one playoff game. Today, those 8- and 9-win seasons would likely be 10-win seasons.

Other scores from Forney tournament: Waco University 3 Heath 0 Ferris 1 Heath 1 Sulphur Springs 2 Heath 2 (I think this is correct. I know it was a tie) Richardson Pearce 0 Heath 2

Isn't this a pretty common thing for top college programs? In a similar discussion in the Big 12/College Sports forum, a Sooner supporter had this to say regarding this topic: Not getting enough PT? No skin off my nose, but it's been my experience that sometimes some of these kids pull the trigger a little too quickly. OU had two running backs quit the team earlier in the season (Jonathon Miller and Jermie Calhoun) and a TE (Austin Haywood) a couple of weeks ago. All of them, as far as I know, were wanting more playing time - - and of course it is understandable, every kid wants to play, rather than sit on the bench. But sometimes you just have to be patient and wait your turn; if Jonathon Miller had hung around a little longer, there is very little doubt that he'd be getting lots of reps, what with Whaley going down for the season. I don't know any of the details, but I know that both Miller and Calhoun were very highly recruited young men. This sort of thing is not unique to UT.

Thanks for keeping me straight. Just saw a score and it did not say JV so I didn't know.

I am not suggesting that it should influence your poll but I believe Mt. Pleasant lost to Heath in the tournament in Forney last weekend.

This looks like a really good list. I have no problem with the list itself but, like the Tyler Morning Telegraph's list, it appears that it should more appropriately be called an all-Tyler area team, or possibly an all-northeast Texas team. Either way, it is always good to see deserving kids recognized.

I certainly agree with you that UT had a real bad year. My point is simply that, at least to me, you are over-emphasizing one bad year when UT is coming off 12 real good ones. If they repeat this past year's performance for the next couple of seasons then I would view things differently.

JR88, who are you referring to? I assume it's not me. UT obviously had a bad year (which I said), and I made no predictions of undefeated seasons. I did say that nearly all good programs have a bad year once in a while and I am fine with that. I didn't inject UT into this, and that is prety much my point. Some folks, instead of just giving TCU the credit they are due, have to take a swipe at UT in the process. That's fine by me but some of these folks don't have their facts straight, beginning with the original poster. Some are such UT haters that they state things as fact when they are not. I am a huge fan of East Texas football, especially AAA and below. I have seen many of TCU's East Texas players play in HS and am thrilled with their success. I wish UT did a better job of appreciating what small school East Texas football has to offer. I also agree with those who have said that it's not necessarily a good thing to be locking up players so early because teams can miss out on some kids who really bloom a little later. I only posted to set the facts straight. I realize that opinions can be across the board.

Man, you and OBTS are pretty harsh critics. The list of schools that are really good for 10-15 years without the occasional down year is pretty short. I guess I just have more realistic expectations. UT played in the national championship last year and might very well have won it if their QB had not gotten hurt. I'll take that any day. You guys seem to think that because Texas has one sub-par year in the last 13, suddenly they are an "underachieving" program. To me, that is ridiculous. The list of teams that wish they had "underachieved" like UT has over last few years is not short. That said, TCU has done exceedingly well with "lesser" recruits and they have impressed everyone, including me.