DLine06 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I would like to see a poll on this issue. My guess is that a growing percentage of Americans, possibly a majority, would disagree with your statement. It's becoming eviedent to many that the longer Obama is in office the more he seems concerned with protecting Muslims than Christians. Sorry but there's not a lot of Muslims in East Texas. I already know your not the best person to talk to on race and world cultures either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLine06 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 mohammed WAS a child molester and a rapist....check history.....and islam is NOT a religion of peace...they use their false god to excuse themselves from being the murdering barbarians that they truly are..... Wrong! Mohammed was a prophet that is revered similarly to Jesus except he is not a God in the Muslim world. In fact the prophet according to Muslim scholars, he did not want to be considered a God out of fear he would lead the faith astray from Allah. One of the 1st commandments is that There shall not be other gods other than Allah. Highly similar to Christians on the 1st commandment. Yes I have been in a mosque as well as a church. For the record, we can look at the history of so called Christian zealots that blew up Abortion clinics, used the Bible to help keep the institution of slavery of minorities in this country...moral is there are crazy #### in every religion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Sorry but there's not a lot of Muslims in East Texas. I already know your not the best person to talk to on race and world cultures either. Nice dodge, I never said anything about how many Muslims there were in East Texas, nor does that have anything to do with my comment. I stand by my comments that you can't credibly dispute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Wrong! Mohammed was a prophet that is revered similarly to Jesus except he is not a God in the Muslim world. In fact the prophet according to Muslim scholars, he did not want to be considered a God out of fear he would lead the faith astray from Allah. One of the 1st commandments is that There shall not be other gods other than Allah. Highly similar to Christians on the 1st commandment. Yes I have been in a mosque as well as a church. For the record, we can look at the history of so called Christian zealots that blew up Abortion clinics, used the Bible to help keep the institution of slavery of minorities in this country...moral is there are crazy #### in every religion. I cant see a prophet doing this. Also Jesus was not a prophet. He is the only Savior of mankind. God's Son Muhammad: The false prophet of Islam was a child molester The so called prophet of Islam married a 6 year old and had sex with her when she was 9 years old. Here are some Islamic references that prove that Muhammad was a child molester pervert who liked little girls: Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage (had sex) when she was nine years old, and then she remained with him for nine years (i.e., till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 64 'A'isha (Allah be pleased with her) reported: Allah's Apostle (may peace be upon him) married me when I was six years old, and I was admitted to his house when I was nine years old. Muslim 8. 3310 Narrated 'Aisha:that the Prophet married her when she was six years old and he consummated his marriage (had sex) when she was nine years old. Hisham said: I have been informed that 'Aisha remained with the Prophet for nine years (i.e. till his death)." what you know of the Quran (by heart)' Bukhari 7. 62. 65 Narrated 'Ursa:The Prophet wrote the (marriage contract) with 'Aisha while she was six years old and consummated his marriage with her (had sex with her) while she was nine years old and she remained with him for nine years (i.e. till his death). Bukhari 7. 62. 88 Muhammad had a fetish of 6-9 year olds playing with dolls before he had sex with them: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camuchs Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 ^ The ages of all of Mormon founder and self-proclaimed prophet J. Smith's wives are not known, there's more than a good chance he too was a child molesting rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 ^ The ages of all of Mormon founder and self-proclaimed prophet J. Smith's wives are not known, there's more than a good chance he too was a child molesting rapist. Unless you have any proof of this the statement is speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Givat Ram is in the center of Jerusalem, and the Knesset is located in the center of Jerusalem. If you can show many anything that proves any Administration other than the Obama Administration since 1950, I'd love to see it. Our embassy has always been in Tel Aviv, but there are reasons behind that. Our leaders have always traveled to the Knesset to meet with Israel's government officials. ok, maybe I should clarify my position. Officially, the US Gov does not recognize Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. Now most presidents, including Barack Obama have campaign on Jerusalem becoming the capital of Israel. But actions speak louder than words. The US passed the Jersalem Embassy Act in 1995. By moving he embassy to Jerusalem,basically says that its the capital. Well GW Bush signed a waiver 16 times to prevent this from happening. Again, GW Bush was President for 8 yrs, with a majority Republican (pro-Israel) congress for 6 yrs. They never once "officially" recognized Jerusalem as the capital. Its not going to happen, because the minute it happens, War will immediately break out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camuchs Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Unless you have any proof of this the statement is speculation. Go to the library and check out Todd Compton's book about the wives of Joseph Smith - In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives Of Joseph Smith. The ages of some of his wives are not known, but he was married to 14 year olds when he was in his late 30's [he was 38 when he died]. You are just afraid to do the research because you may discover that your candidate adheres to a twisted false religion that is no better than Islam. From Compton's book: page 58,59: Daughter of Heber C. Kimball. At aged 14, Helen Mar Kimball wrote, "[My father] asked me if I would be sealed to Joseph … [smith] said to me, If you will take this step, it will ensure your eternal salvation & exaltation and that of your father's household & all of your kindred.[] This promise was so great that I willingly gave myself to purchase so glorious a reward. … [After the marriage] I felt quite sore over it … and thought myself an abused child, and that it was pardonable if I did murmur." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 What does that say for your proposed commander? I guess the same for YOUR proposed commander.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted September 13, 2012 Author Share Posted September 13, 2012 Sorry but there's not a lot of Muslims in East Texas. I already know your not the best person to talk to on race and world cultures either. How do you know that? They have a church or whatever it is they call it, in Longview... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 No, it's not. Two idiots doesn't make the whole party idiots, of which I might remind you, that your proposed commander in chief was also "one of those idiots". the entire party is controlled by socialists now.....it's completely full of idiots....and I CHALLENGE you to find ONE statement by Dr. Paul supporting ANY type of foreign aid whatsoever.....ain't gunna find it....:P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Wrong! Mohammed was a prophet that is revered similarly to Jesus except he is not a God in the Muslim world. In fact the prophet according to Muslim scholars, he did not want to be considered a God out of fear he would lead the faith astray from Allah. One of the 1st commandments is that There shall not be other gods other than Allah. Highly similar to Christians on the 1st commandment. Yes I have been in a mosque as well as a church. For the record, we can look at the history of so called Christian zealots that blew up Abortion clinics, used the Bible to help keep the institution of slavery of minorities in this country...moral is there are crazy #### in every religion. that child molesting barbarian is NOTHING like our Lord and Savior.....mohammed is revered by people who worship and follow a false god...Jesus IS the Son of God, and part of the Godhead...not even a comparison....Paul condemns islam as nothing but a false religion...... Galatians 1: 6 - 9 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. We are also told by our Lord that we can judge a prophet or teacher by what is produced from that prophets works.....mohammed has produced nothing but murder, rape, assassination, poverty, and backwardness....speaks volumes.... For the record, those people who call themselves Christians but commit atrocities such as blowing up abortion clinics, etc. are no better than barbarians themselves, and are NOT true Christians....judge them by the fruits of their labor as well.....they will find themselves in the same eternal place as the muslims.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 ^ The ages of all of Mormon founder and self-proclaimed prophet J. Smith's wives are not known, there's more than a good chance he too was a child molesting rapist. They are condemned by Paul just as the muslims..... Galatians 1: 6 - 9 6 I am astonished that you are so quickly deserting him who called you in the grace of Christ and are turning to a different gospel— 7 not that there is another one, but there are some who trouble you and want to distort the gospel of Christ. 8 But even if we or an angel from heaven should preach to you a gospel contrary to the one we preached to you, let him be accursed. 9 As we have said before, so now I say again: If anyone is preaching to you a gospel contrary to the one you received, let him be accursed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 I guess the same for YOUR proposed commander.... you'll NEVER find Dr. Paul trying to drum up support for foreign aid for ANYBODY..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BEVODIDIT Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Go to the library and check out Todd Compton's book about the wives of Joseph Smith - In Sacred Loneliness: The Plural Wives Of Joseph Smith. The ages of some of his wives are not known, but he was married to 14 year olds when he was in his late 30's [he was 38 when he died]. You are just afraid to do the research because you may discover that your candidate adheres to a twisted false religion that is no better than Islam. It may be a twisted false religion, but they don't go around killing people and blowing up everyone that disagrees with Joseph Smith's tenants. Islam is not even a religion. Its an ideology. An ideology that espouses death to all that do not follow. Muslims are just doing what their "good book" says. They are bent on coverting or killing us all. If anyone believes otherwise they are dead wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Muslims are just doing what their "good book" says. koran = satanic verses...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4to3 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Republicans, whether it will do any good or not, are asking that all monies be dropped for Egypt and Libya - which is great.....however.... "Three top backers of U.S. engagement in the Middle East, Sens. John McCain (R-Ariz.), Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.) and Joe Lieberman (I-Conn.), took to the Senate floor on Wednesday to pay tribute to the slain Americans and to urge continued support for Libya and Egypt." Ya know - that's down right sickening!!!!! Wonder where money for foreign affairs goes......... http://www.govtrack..../112/s3241/text In 2009, a bill was introduced by Senator Jon Kyl that would have required the Secretary of State to certify that funds made available for reconstruction efforts in Gaza would not be diverted to Hamas or entities controlled by Hamas. It was rejected. Click here to see who voted for and against http://www.senate.go...on=1&vote=00088 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 ^ The ages of all of Mormon founder and self-proclaimed prophet J. Smith's wives are not known, there's more than a good chance he too was a child molesting rapist. We also know that the during the Roman Empire the average lifespan was only 24 years old, with only the exceptional wealthy living past that age. Even Alexander the Great only lived to be 32, and he conquered most of the known world at the time. With that being said 14 wasn't considered to be an Old Maid, but it was not considered to be child molesting. I realize that we think so today with the average lifespan being in the 80's, but you can check out the age of consent for most States and territories here : http://chnm.gmu.edu/cyh/teaching-modules/230?section=primarysources&source=24 . So, let's get to the meat of the matter, this is what caused the violence in Egypt, Libya, and Yemen ???????? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ntgzoE7rU9A . Only 10 people saw it at it's premier in L.A. ???? And people are upset to violence ???? When's the last time you heard of a Mormon being raised to such anger over a comment about any of our prophet's ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 ok, maybe I should clarify my position. Officially, the US Gov does not recognize Jerusalem as the Capital of Israel. Now most presidents, including Barack Obama have campaign on Jerusalem becoming the capital of Israel. But actions speak louder than words. The US passed the Jersalem Embassy Act in 1995. By moving he embassy to Jerusalem,basically says that its the capital. Well GW Bush signed a waiver 16 times to prevent this from happening. Again, GW Bush was President for 8 yrs, with a majority Republican (pro-Israel) congress for 6 yrs. They never once "officially" recognized Jerusalem as the capital. Its not going to happen, because the minute it happens, War will immediately break out. I think that was more of a cost issue from what I've read. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Wonder where money for foreign affairs goes......... http://www.govtrack..../112/s3241/text In 2009, a bill was introduced by Senator Jon Kyl that would have required the Secretary of State to certify that funds made available for reconstruction efforts in Gaza would not be diverted to Hamas or entities controlled by Hamas. It was rejected. Click here to see who voted for and against http://www.senate.go...on=1&vote=00088 lol. Only If you knew how long the US has been giving money to these countries. LOL... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouTex Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Protests spread against US over anti-Islamic film - live updates UK and German embassies? What a joke. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted September 14, 2012 Author Share Posted September 14, 2012 ^ Exactly. It's not about a stupid film, it's just "because". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
camuchs Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 Wonder where money for foreign affairs goes......... http://www.govtrack..../112/s3241/text In 2009, a bill was introduced by Senator Jon Kyl that would have required the Secretary of State to certify that funds made available for reconstruction efforts in Gaza would not be diverted to Hamas or entities controlled by Hamas. It was rejected. Click here to see who voted for and against http://www.senate.go...on=1&vote=00088 4 senators not voting. 3 of the 4 were Republcans 1 of which was Texas' own KBH and the 1 dem -- ol' Teddy was too busy dying to vote. Still would not have made a diffence it appears. Clearly a party line vote with a couple crossing the line from each side. Status Quo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HouTex Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 I've found this really useful, if you're following. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted September 14, 2012 Share Posted September 14, 2012 We either need to completely pull out of these nations, sever diplomatic relations, and cut all foreign aid to them.....OR....congress needs to grow a collective set of balls and exercise their CONSTITUTIONAL duty to declare war on these people and let's wipe the islamic cancer off the face of the planet......one or the other....#### or get off the pot...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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