Lobo97 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 What's he supposed to do about it? Punt on first down? He calls the plays, he's not the one with the ball in his hands. You don't blame the coach for players not hanging on to the ball. I'm sick to death of the people who say 'its not the coaches fault, he's not the one on the field.'. First and foremost, if this were true, then why the hell do programs pay what they do to the coaches??? Secondly, LV having turnover problems is not new. It's a problem every year, and every year he does nothing about it. You want to know what he can do, have you never played football? Cause when I played, there were actual reprocussions for turnovers...You ran your butt off after practice for starters. You run drills during practice to work on protecting the ball. Or my personal favorite, you watch the game from the sideline. Whatever it takes to get the message across. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie2008 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 6:12 to go WL at the 4 about to score. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 We are down to our 4th and 5th string running backs genius. And we just threw another INT. I don't give a dang if we're having to suit up freshman RB's. The turnovers are killing us so obviously this 'genius' knows what the heck he is saying! You can't turn the ball over 6 times and expect to win...Regardless who's playing RB! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerBULLDAWG Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I'm sick to death of the people who say 'its not the coaches fault, he's not the one on the field.'. First and foremost, if this were true, then why the hell do programs pay what they do to the coaches??? Secondly, LV having turnover problems is not new. It's a problem every year, and every year he does nothing about it. You want to know what he can do, have you never played football? Cause when I played, there were actual reprocussions for turnovers...You ran your butt off after practice for starters. You run drills during practice to work on protecting the ball. Or my personal favorite, you watch the game from the sideline. Whatever it takes to get the message across. Maybe you should be the coach, since your such a football genius. And yes, I played football 7th-12th grade. Our players weren't punished for turnovers, we moved on to next weeks game. Something Longview won't be doing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie2008 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 TD Westlake 31-10 with 5:09 It's been a very...interesting season for Longview. Ups and downs, definitely the year of the turnover. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Maybe you should be the coach, since your such a football genius. And yes, I played football 7th-12th grade. Our players weren't punished for turnovers, we moved on to next weeks game. Something Longview won't be doing. Running drills to teach ball protection is not punishment. Holding players accountable for mistakes is also not punishment...it's called discipline. And it's what separates the best teams from the rest! You don't have to be a coach to know that! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie2008 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Westlake is running a Dekaney-style defense...loading the box and coming off the edge every play. In this sort of wind you pretty much have no counter for it. Lobos about to punt again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 TD Westlake 31-10 with 5:09 It's been a very...interesting season for Longview. Ups and downs, definitely the year of the turnover. The turnovers seem to be an issue every year for whatever reason. It has been interesting this year though. With only 2 returning offensive starters and then losing one of those for the season in week 1, still have to be proud of making it this for. Six consecutive years in the regionals! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerBULLDAWG Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Running drills to teach ball protection is not punishment. Holding players accountable for mistakes is also not punishment...it's called discipline. And it's what separates the best teams from the rest! You don't have to be a coach to know that! You're right, I apologize. Longview is far from the best Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 You're right, I apologize. Longview is far from the best I'm not trying to argue with you. You just have to understand my side of it. I AM a Lobo! I wore that uniform and sweat and bled on that field. My playing career nearly ended on that field with a major knee injury. So you just have to understand my frustration with seeing this team come up short year after year. Especially when they have the talent to be a Championship team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobinFrost Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 The turnovers are continuing because Coach King refuses to do anything about it! While there are times we are able to overcome them, they are still a BIG reason why we haven't win a Championship. And yet, King still refuses to do anything about it. I've been telling '07 and several others that for the longest. You and I came up in an era where it was NOT tolerated whatsoever! I will give King credit for how far he has gotten this team turned around but, in John King's own words, " I don't focus on fumbling because it makes the player less effective as a runner". This retarded ideology is what not only seperates him from being just a pretty good coach to a great coach but, this Lobo team from EVER winning a State Championship while he is the head coach. We gave Westlake FOURTEEN-POINTS off of FUMBLING and SEVEN off of an interception! We might as well get used to this EVERY YEAR because this is what is. If, John King will ever decide to prepare these Lobos as a COMPLETE, DISCIPLINED unit all the way around, this football program will be phenomenal but, UNTIL that happens this is what you can expect EVERY, SINGLE YEAR-PERIOD. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtee2 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Woowee I'm bout to jump ship! Haha! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HTownLions Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 38-10 WL final. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TobinFrost Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 By the way, HATS off to the Longview Lobo DEFENSE!!! You guys were JUGGERNAUTS tonight and as a Lobo Alumn and former player I appreciate your efforts tonight! You guys NEVER took a play off and that's what it takes if you're ever going to win a title. UNFORTUNATELY, tonight there was not a collective effort MENTALLY on the offensive side of the ball. But, to their credit it's not completely their fault either. But, thanks for the hard fought effort-again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
formerBULLDAWG Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I'm not trying to argue with you. You just have to understand my side of it. I AM a Lobo! I wore that uniform and sweat and bled on that field. My playing career nearly ended on that field with a major knee injury. So you just have to understand my frustration with seeing this team come up short year after year. Especially when they have the talent to be a Championship team. Understandable, but I just don't think the coach is 100% of the problem. I don't follow Longview football, so I don't know a lot about them, but at some point the players just need to man up and hang on to the football. No excuses for 7 turnovers in a playoff game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WP4L Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 I've been telling '07 and several others that for the longest. You and I came up in an era where it was NOT tolerated whatsoever! I will give King credit for how far he has gotten this team turned around but, in John King's own words, " I don't focus on fumbling because it makes the player less effective as a runner". Dude..just stop it. I'm tired of seeing you blame King everytime an athlete fumbles..it's just stupid. Come up with some new material. You can't teach football IQ, It's certain things you're supposed to know as a football player..one being how to hold onto a dang football. Not hard to do at all..in fact it's simple. If you came up in a time where coaches had to waste practice time to teach athletes how simply hold onto a ball..then that's embarrassing. You obviously came up in an era where everything was spoon fed to you. You played on the '97 team right? Lobo football in the 90's or any other era was weak compared to what it is now under King. Look at the records.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Dude..just stop it. I'm tired of seeing you blame King everytime an athlete fumbles..it's just stupid. Come up with some new material. You can't teach football IQ, It's certain things you're supposed to know as a football player..one being how to hold onto a dang football. Not hard to do at all..in fact it's simple. If you came up in a time where coaches had to waste practice time to teach athletes how simply hold onto a ball..then that's embarrassing. You obviously came up in an era where everything was spoon fed to you. You played on the '97 team right? Lobo football in the 90's or any other era was weak compared to what it is now under King. Look at the records.. I know you weren't talking to me, but to say the '97 team was weak compared to today's team, well I'll just ask you to look at the last comment you made...look at the records. I was on that team. We went 14-1 and were ranked #2 in the country. Good look finding a team this decade with a stronger resume' than that. And lets also not forget, we also played in a MUCH stronger district than LV has in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Didn't yall play for State in 1997. Thats pretty good too me just saying... Thank You! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindin Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 get real; college teams spend the first 15-20 minutes of practice every day with RBs working security drills. There's a lot of apparatus out there that teams use - it's very physical. So maybe you need to come into the 21st century. The coaches need to train it; and the players need to get mentally focused on possession. It's a combination. Have not seen a Lobo team lately that could stay on the field against the 97 team. Dude..just stop it. I'm tired of seeing you blame King everytime an athlete fumbles..it's just stupid. Come up with some new material. You can't teach football IQ, It's certain things you're supposed to know as a football player..one being how to hold onto a dang football. Not hard to do at all..in fact it's simple. If you came up in a time where coaches had to waste practice time to teach athletes how simply hold onto a ball..then that's embarrassing. You obviously came up in an era where everything was spoon fed to you. You played on the '97 team right? Lobo football in the 90's or any other era was weak compared to what it is now under King. Look at the records.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grindin Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Completely agree. I know you weren't talking to me, but to say the '97 team was weak compared to today's team, well I'll just ask you to look at the last comment you made...look at the records. I was on that team. We went 14-1 and were ranked #2 in the country. Good look finding a team this decade with a stronger resume' than that. And lets also not forget, we also played in a MUCH stronger district than LV has in the last 10 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyz_In_Blue Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Congrats to Longview on a great season.Despite your qb going out for the season you guys still competed and gave your all. Seems like y'all were the best team against WL but got plagued by the to's. I didn't think after the Coppell game y'all would turn the ball over like that considering that was the first game of the year but I don't know if that's on King or the players. I can't blame King for the to's but if he didn't do any thing to correct the to's after the Coppell game then he deserves part of the blame. You guys will bounce back next year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gtee2 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Congrats to Longview on a great season.Despite your qb going out for the season you guys still competed and gave your all. Seems like y'all were the best team against WL but got plagued by the to's. I didn't think after the Coppell game y'all would turn the ball over like that considering that was the first game of the year but I don't know if that's on King or the players. I can't blame King for the to's but if he didn't do any thing to correct the to's after the Coppell game then he deserves part of the blame. You guys will bounce back next year. Bring home that title! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boyz_In_Blue Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Bring home that title! we'll definitely try but its getting harder and harder. There is not one team that we can overlook and think they won't beat us. I like our chances but we most continue to play JT football. I hear Frisco Centennial is very good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five0pd310 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Phew!! Thank God King didn't want to be too hard on his running backs about holding onto the ball. They might have fumbled the game away if he had been. I've now heard from his own lips twice that he can't/won't say too much to them about fubling because he's afraid they may keep it in the back of their mind. Really? Do you work on your recievers catching the ball? Does it hinder their "play-making" abilities? I know King is a good man and that he's a terrific coach in many aspects, but I have to wonder what goes through his mind sometimes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THSfanatic Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Congrats to the Lobos on a good season. I know it's disappointing though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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