topher805 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 http://m.espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10005973 Update. Short story is the victim coming forth. Story is getting weird... Maybe TMZ wasn't as far out there as I thought with their cover-up conspiracy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-town12 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Wow. Guess that Johnny manziel disease isn't so bad now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFootball Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 What I love is how loud the crying from some of the smoaky posters were over autograph signing that was never proved, but this thread doesn't even have 2 pages of outrage, and this is SEXUAL ASSAULT we're talking about. Haha.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 What I love is how loud the crying from some of the smoaky posters were over autograph signing that was never proved, but this thread doesn't even have 2 pages of outrage, and this is SEXUAL ASSAULT we're talking about. Haha.... Because no one believes this. How many of these investigations and accusations come up every year and get dropped? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-town12 Posted November 20, 2013 Share Posted November 20, 2013 Because no one believes this. How many of these investigations and accusations come up every year and get dropped? Have you read all the new stuff today? It's pretty substantial info. Blood test came back saying the girl wasn't drunk, witnesses and all sort of stuff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 20, 2013 Author Share Posted November 20, 2013 Have you read all the new stuff today? It's pretty substantial info. Blood test came back saying the girl wasn't drunk, witnesses and all sort of stuff.I'll have to check it out when I get to my personal computer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 Have you read all the new stuff today? It's pretty substantial info. Blood test came back saying the girl wasn't drunk, witnesses and all sort of stuff.Read the story today, girl wasn't drunk, who cares? The witnesses are all in Winstons favor. Everyone is saying Winston has to comment on this, why? If he knows it isn't true why bother saying anything that could be spun around negatively. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyperWoods Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Florida is such a bastion of police exemplary behavior. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 I agree with Saw Nothing to see here, folks. Move along Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-town12 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Read the story today, girl wasn't drunk, who cares? The witnesses are all in Winstons favor. Everyone is saying Winston has to comment on this, why? If he knows it isn't true why bother saying anything that could be spun around negatively. If there was nothing to see, why did the detective try to hush everything up? Seems fishy to me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookemhorns88 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What I love is how loud the crying from some of the smoaky posters were over autograph signing that was never proved, but this thread doesn't even have 2 pages of outrage, and this is SEXUAL ASSAULT we're talking about. Haha.... Most on here could care less about FSU or the ACC. This event does not directly affect the teams that are followed on this board. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 If there was nothing to see, why did the detective try to hush everything up? Seems fishy to meThe lawyer defending her said he picked the case up because the media had been pushing it. She closed the case herself and refused to work with investigators when the case was fresh. He thought he could stir the pot so he found called her up and is trying to make headlines. Mission accomplished. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 "@SportsCenter: DEVELOPING: DNA report connects Florida St. QB Jameis Winston to accuser. This does not prove a crime was committed. (via @Mark_Schlabach)" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-town12 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 DNA found from Winston on the girl, blood report saying she wasn't drunk, Tallahassee PD trying to hush her up..... It's starting to look bad for him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JohnnyFootball Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Read the story today, girl wasn't drunk, who cares? The witnesses are all in Winstons favor. Everyone is saying Winston has to comment on this, why? If he knows it isn't true why bother saying anything that could be spun around negatively. That's a far cry from the sentiment going on around here when Johnny hadn't made a statement regarding autograph gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 DNA found from Winston on the girl, blood report saying she wasn't drunk, Tallahassee PD trying to hush her up..... It's starting to look bad for him.LSU is gonna need a QB after this year. Hmmmm? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 That's a far cry from the sentiment going on around here when Johnny hadn't made a statement regarding autograph gate. Wasn't Manziel suspended because all that turned out to be true? lol Posters on here accusing him of taking money for autographs isn't near as bad as trying to label someone a rapist. Get your ducks in a row buddy. And for the record, most everyone on this board is in Texas. Of course Manziel is going to be a bigger topic here than an FSU QB. But lets stick to the topic. Manziel may win another Heisman if this stuff doesn't go away soon. Voters were hesitant with Manziel, but won't tolerate a potential rapist. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DLine06 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 This story gets more confusing by the day: Media announces Winston may be involved Victim describes assailant between 5'9-5'11 Winston is 6'2-6'4 Local police never file A year nearly passes before media picks it up State attorney says they never got the case Victim's family reports she was swayed to not file Blood evidence says she was not drunk as first reported Most of all, DNA evidence puts Winston there I'm more interested in the potential cover-up than the actual case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TyperWoods Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 http://espn.go.com/ncf/story?storyId=10009077&src=desktop DNA in panties matches Winston. But, it's much more likely the victim knows exactly how tall 5'11" is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 What does her being drunk or not have to do with it? I would think her story would be more likely if she was drunk/drinking. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sawemoff Posted November 21, 2013 Author Share Posted November 21, 2013 What does her being drunk or not have to do with it? I would think her story would be more likely if she was drunk/drinking. Nothing, I think her being sober makes it much more unbelievable. These athletes can find girls too easy to pick on a sober girl that wants nothing to do with them. They very well may have had intercourse, but that doesn't automatically mean he forced it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
h-town12 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Take into account that this was reported before he ever started a game at fsu, and was supposedly reported 2 hours after it happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Take into account that this was reported before he ever started a game at fsu, and was supposedly reported 2 hours after it happened. Good point. It may be one of those things that we will never know the truth.....his word against hers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 Saban planted that DNA lol. He is trying to remove FSU from his path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flukeshot Posted November 21, 2013 Share Posted November 21, 2013 This story gets more confusing by the day: Victim describes assailant between 5'9-5'11 Winston is 6'2-6'4 Rape is a traumatic experience, so might be tough to give a coherent statement to police a couple hours later. Plus if she's short estimating the height of someone much taller than herself could be difficult anyway. At 5'10" I think I can pretty easily tell the difference between 5'11" and 6'3", but I'm not so sure about 6'11" and 7'3". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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