Coach Rab Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Derek Holland has knee surgery after falling in his home. May be back around the all star break Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Figures Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Immortal13 Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Good grief Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatbambino Posted January 12, 2014 Share Posted January 12, 2014 Smh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 One rumor floating around is that it may have been hurt during a hockey game he played in.I was thinking this was going to be his big breakout year. Back to Tepesch or what Colby has left I guess. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted January 13, 2014 Author Share Posted January 13, 2014 Any idea on what surgery he actually had? I am trying to figure out the timeline... If it is the All Star break like ESPN mentioned, then it had to be ACL or a serious fracture requiring screws. However, if it is the beginning of the season, it could be something more manageable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 105.3 had him on. Says he tore cartilage but not his meniscus. If big if he was hurt playing hockey Texas could void his contract. I'd stick with the dog story too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 Any idea on what surgery he actually had? I am trying to figure out the timeline... If it is the All Star break like ESPN mentioned, then it had to be ACL or a serious fracture requiring screws. However, if it is the beginning of the season, it could be something more manageable. Microfracture Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted January 14, 2014 Share Posted January 14, 2014 So lets see, he wa walking before and after game...ran the morning he was injuried with trainer, but because we believe anything we read it must be hockey. Yes, as long as its on SDC. lol Like I said its just a rumor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'd say my dog did it too if my contract could be voided... Let's face it, he's still immature and can't be counted on in a big start... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratface Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 I'd say my dog did it too if my contract could be voided... Let's face it, he's still immature and can't be counted on in a big start... By any chance, did you happen to watch the 2011 World Series? Maybe Game 5? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Read this in the DMN ,so I'm not sure what to believe, but Rangers are looking at Paul Maholm and may be interested in Bruce Chen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 By any chance, did you happen to watch the 2011 World Series? Maybe Game 5? That's ONE game. You're talking about ONE game here. How many other big games has he pitched in and list the line on that start. How many times have you seen this guy cruise along dominating a line-up only to walk a couple in a row and give up a bomb? I feel like I've seen it far too many times. I understand he's young, but this is his 3rd full season and he continues to progress like a 15 yr old, not to mention missing half a season because he fell down his stairs...? Face it, the guy is weird... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratface Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 That's ONE game. You're talking about ONE game here. How many other big games has he pitched in and list the line on that start. How many times have you seen this guy cruise along dominating a line-up only to walk a couple in a row and give up a bomb? I feel like I've seen it far too many times. I understand he's young, but this is his 3rd full season and he continues to progress like a 15 yr old, not to mention missing half a season because he fell down his stairs...? Face it, the guy is weird... That ONE game was a World Series game with both teams tied at two games, so that's not a bad ONE game to mention. Also, check out his numbers down the stretch in September 2011 with the AL West on the line. Not too bad, either. I'm certainly not saying the guy's not weird, but the fact is he's one of the best LH starters in the A.L. And as for him cruising along and then suddenly giving up a couple walks then a jack, well, that's called baseball. You can watch Scherzer, Verlander, or Kershaw do the same thing. Those ML hitters ain't too bad! You look at the overall body of work, and Holland's is pretty impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratface Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 In the interest of accuracy, Holland's huge start was in Game 4 of the 2011 World Series, with the Rangers facing a 2-1 deficit, making his performance even more impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted January 16, 2014 Share Posted January 16, 2014 Holland should have been a 15+ win starter if the bats hadn't of let him down. In stretches he looked as good and dominant as Darvish. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 I get what ya'll are saying. But he has stuff that rivals Kershaw. Seriously, he runs it up 94-96 which Kershaw can do as well but pitches more around 92-94 for the most part. Holland has an above average breaking ball with a really good change-up. What else do you need? You're telling me that he doesn't have Cy Young candidate stuff? Yet, he's never been in the race. The guy has 20 game winner stuff and has yet to utilize it. It's there, I've seen it. He's still a couple years away and a couple years of maturing away from being that guy... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ratface Posted January 17, 2014 Share Posted January 17, 2014 Both of you guys are making good points. I just hate that The Good Guys are losing him for the first three months or so of the season. Just please, J.D. - no Bruce Chen! I'd love to see Colby Lewis return to form in the middle of the rotation. The guy has the heart of a lion and is definitely one of the best people in the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted January 21, 2014 Share Posted January 21, 2014 Both of you guys are making good points. I just hate that The Good Guys are losing him for the first three months or so of the season. Just please, J.D. - no Bruce Chen! I'd love to see Colby Lewis return to form in the middle of the rotation. The guy has the heart of a lion and is definitely one of the best people in the game. I like the guy, but he is done. Too old and too many surgeries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 Microfracture If that is all, then I don't understand why he would miss the start of the season. I am now in sales with equipment to orthopaedic groups and there are ways to heal that fracture and be completely done with rehab in 2-3 months max. However, I am sure he will be back before the all-star break if that is all that it is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted January 23, 2014 Author Share Posted January 23, 2014 If that is all, then I don't understand why he would miss the start of the season. I am now in sales with equipment to orthopaedic groups and there are ways to heal that fracture and be completely done with rehab in 2-3 months max. However, I am sure he will be back before the all-star break if that is all that it is. Now that I think about it, I just remembered how baseball is... he will have to spend 2-3 weeks in the minors to get back in "baseball shape" aka sitting still on the bench for 30 minutes before going out and throwing more warm up tosses than pitches. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rubberhammer Posted January 24, 2014 Share Posted January 24, 2014 Now that I think about it, I just remembered how baseball is... he will have to spend 2-3 weeks in the minors to get back in "baseball shape" aka sitting still on the bench for 30 minutes before going out and throwing more warm up tosses than pitches. I was under the impression that micro fracture was a bad deal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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