polecat Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 "None of you know a single thing about what has happened in Shelbyville. Not a single critical perspective has any shred of truth to it. Not a single kid got kicked off the team for playing any game. As much as you would all like to make it something that absurd so you can place all the blame on the coach or staff and not the kids, it is still not true. There were boys who violated a team policy or rule knowing they were in violation all the while. There were teammates who asked them what they were doing, why and warned them to stop. They refused. They deliberately went forward with their violation. There was a choice to be made and consequences to the choice as in all choices any of us make. This was a repeated offense by the players in question. Both had violated these rules before and both chose to violate TEAM rules again, forsaking their TEAM. I am extremely close to this team and this situation and know almost exactly everything that has happened. Both players deliberately violated rules they both had been held accountable for before. Both players knew the risk of being suspended or removed from the team were they to violate similar rules again. Both players were suspended. Only one player chose to make an effort to "make right" what he had made wrong. It is my understanding he is back on the team and will play this week against Ore City. Why is it so many cowards, who know nothing about the actual situation come running to the aid of those who knowingly violated So, in closing, let's all grow up, stop believing anything and everything one reads on the internet. Let's stop believing what children tell us. Let's find out facts before spewing ridiculous lies based on nothing and let's all try to find out what the truth actually is. Let's all get back to following rules and understanding and supporting the concept that rules are meant to be followed and there are good and bad consequences to consider for our actions. And I know it is a foreign concept these days, but how about somebody who expresses a seemingly legitimate concern go talk to someone face to face? Social media has done nothing but encourage the cowardice that lies within the human race. I have had the opportunity to visit with and get to know, in a limited sense, every coach we have in Shelbyville. None of you know these men. They are good for our kids. They are good for our town and we are proud of them and proud to have them. I won't pretend to know any coach from other towns, even though I know a few, and get on here and attack their character based on something I saw, think I saw, or heard or think I heard from a Friday night football game. Not really fair to judge anyone here based on something anyone's seen or heard from a 2 to 3 hour segment of their entire life. So stop pretending to know anything about things you know nothing about. The truth, the real truth, in matters like this, will never be known or discovered from the internet........Bonjour!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 yes, we have all gotten a good talkin to. lets move on. continuing to bloviate on these subjects is pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WStiger96 Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 "None of you know a single thing about what has happened in Shelbyville. Not a single critical perspective has any shred of truth to it. Not a single kid got kicked off the team for playing any game. As much as you would all like to make it something that absurd so you can place all the blame on the coach or staff and not the kids, it is still not true. There were boys who violated a team policy or rule knowing they were in violation all the while. There were teammates who asked them what they were doing, why and warned them to stop. They refused. They deliberately went forward with their violation. There was a choice to be made and consequences to the choice as in all choices any of us make. This was a repeated offense by the players in question. Both had violated these rules before and both chose to violate TEAM rules again, forsaking their TEAM. I am extremely close to this team and this situation and know almost exactly everything that has happened. Both players deliberately violated rules they both had been held accountable for before. Both players knew the risk of being suspended or removed from the team were they to violate similar rules again. Both players were suspended. Only one player chose to make an effort to "make right" what he had made wrong. It is my understanding he is back on the team and will play this week against Ore City. Why is it so many cowards, who know nothing about the actual situation come running to the aid of those who knowingly violated So, in closing, let's all grow up, stop believing anything and everything one reads on the internet. Let's stop believing what children tell us. Let's find out facts before spewing ridiculous lies based on nothing and let's all try to find out what the truth actually is. Let's all get back to following rules and understanding and supporting the concept that rules are meant to be followed and there are good and bad consequences to consider for our actions. And I know it is a foreign concept these days, but how about somebody who expresses a seemingly legitimate concern go talk to someone face to face? Social media has done nothing but encourage the cowardice that lies within the human race. I have had the opportunity to visit with and get to know, in a limited sense, every coach we have in Shelbyville. None of you know these men. They are good for our kids. They are good for our town and we are proud of them and proud to have them. I won't pretend to know any coach from other towns, even though I know a few, and get on here and attack their character based on something I saw, think I saw, or heard or think I heard from a Friday night football game. Not really fair to judge anyone here based on something anyone's seen or heard from a 2 to 3 hour segment of their entire life. So stop pretending to know anything about things you know nothing about. The truth, the real truth, in matters like this, will never be known or discovered from the internet........Bonjour!" I guess the language I heard in the press box from their coordinators towards their own players was a good thing then? I guess dropping a few f-bombs is beneficial. If it was a team rule and they knowingly violated it the punishment fits. You are right about one thing, though. We here in the land of the internet will NEVER truly know what went down...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambo Posted November 13, 2014 Share Posted November 13, 2014 I guess the language I heard in the press box from their coordinators towards their own players was a good thing then? I guess dropping a few f-bombs is beneficial. If it was a team rule and they knowingly violated it the punishment fits. You are right about one thing, though. We here in the land of the internet will NEVER truly know what went down......It don't matter... I wonder how many times these kids went out n got drunk this season did they get kicked off the team for that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsYouWere Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 This thread is beyond redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 This thread is beyond redemption. good luck to you guys. tear em up! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 None of you know a single thing about what has happened in Shelbyville. Not a single critical perspective has any shred of truth to it. Pretty high expectations for a public messageboard........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsYouWere Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 good luck to you guys. tear em up!Thanks Greezy. Shelbyville is ready for this game. Good luck to Tenaha next week. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blackandred Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Tyrell Cartwright will be qb, very fast sophomore Tyrell Cartwright will be qb, very fast sophomore Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Tyrell Cartwright will be qb, very fast sophomore Tyrell Cartwright will be qb, very fast sophomore You can say that again.......:lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WDGT Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Congrats to SA. District 10 represents! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deberry1052 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Tyrell Cartwright will be qb, very fast sophomore Tyrell Cartwright will be qb, very fast sophomore He's going to be a great QB Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsallheart Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 I still wanna know if the rule that was broken was kids playing basketball. Because if that was the rule that was broken are we not to ask the question why kids cant play basketball on there own time? And if so are the kids not allowed to throw a football during Basketball season? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmmm Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 ^^^ itsallheart, it appears that it goes deeper than a single rule being violated. Let's move on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
itsallheart Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 lol I mention Basketball everyone says lets move on. My Bad Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hmmmm Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Not at all what I meant, actually basketball is my favorite. But in this situation, I don't think basketball, in itself, has anything to do with it. The rule was the rule, it could have been no playing ping pong, miniature golf, etc. Like I've said before, we will probably never know the whole story. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Like I've said before, we will probably never know the whole story. The whole story gives good reason for the actions that were taken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dragonfan17 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 So a kid goes and plays a game of pick up basketball sure not the smartest thing to do right before a playoff game. But kicking him off the team is a little extreme! Know your facts! There is more to the story than most people know! RULES ARE RULES & what kind of man are you if you cant keep your word? This coach is teaching more than just football, hes teaching self respect, respect for authority, morals, integrity, & self discipline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hayseed Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 To Shelbyville's credit everyone manned up to their responsibilities and not one of the people DIRECTLY involved chose to air out team business on social-media. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AsYouWere Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Come On 7:30!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SAPACK1 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 That's enough of the negativety, at this point we all need to get behind the Dragons support them through their playoff run. Good luck Shelbyville, represent 10-2A the way we know you can!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 Come On 7:30!!! plus one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 we all need to get behind the Dragons support them through their playoff run. Good luck Shelbyville, represent 10-2A the way we know you can!!! I'll be rooting for Ore City....... :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 at this point we all need to get behind the Dragons support them through their playoff run. Would if someone is a Ore City fan or fan of a future opponent???????????????????? plus one. 7:31? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomer Posted November 14, 2014 Share Posted November 14, 2014 If I can find enough warm clothes I will root for Shelbyville for the rest of the playoffs cause they are from our district 10. I hope JoeKane don't find me and work me over for all the smack i talked against West Rusk three years ago. Almost got suspended for that one maybe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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