UnclePig Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 What about drug testing for welfare recipients? +1,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 And for the record I am a very conservative minded person and I do realize that public schools are a form of socialism and that does irk me a little. But if we got away from so much state and federal control and went back to more local control of our schools I think it would be much more tolerable for all the conservatives out there like me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
benglish935 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Let's be real. Every school has kids doing something. Most districts have drug testing believing it protects the kids. Usually it's a condition of any extracurricular activity, not just sports. And usually they test everybody the implementation year and random after that. If you didn't have a problem your program won't notice. If you do have a problem then it will decimate your team. My job has tested us for years. I'll be honest. I don't enjoy someone watching me provide a sample. But I can always quit if I don't like it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Drug tests are expensive at $42 a student. I can understand if a kid is hurt on campus to limit liability for the school in case they are sued. I don't remember many injuries outside of sports and fights though. I know they stopped testing for steroids. They wasted $10 million on testing for steroids in 8 years, and only found 11 players that were positive. Who knows if they were prescribed by a doctor for asthma or some other ailment. http://usatodayhss.com/2015/texas-lawmakers-halt-steroid-testing-for-high-school-athletes . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Drug tests for Marijuana and Methamphetamine are very helpful to parents. These are street drugs. Testing for steroids is a complete waste of time and money considering the number of children who take them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackem Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 wonder how they determine" suspect" Boston Lion posted a picture of a suspect at 2:36 if that helps. Besides drug testing the drug dog walks through pk lot & halls periodically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 7, 2015 Share Posted November 7, 2015 Drug tests for Marijuana and Methamphetamine are very helpful to parents. These are street drugs. Testing for steroids is a complete waste of time and money considering the number of children who take them. Then the parents should test them if they suspect them using drugs. I knew students that used back in my time, and they didn't cause disruptions. Most of the dope heads I remember didn't use drugs before or during school, only after school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 So... how is random drug testing by schools a negative? Is it: A) a violation of your civil rights? B) a waste of your tax money? C) you think pot is all natural and we shouldn't test because it's actually better for you and less harmful than alcohol... and you don't care that it is against the law? D) all of the above? Just trying to figure out why you are against schools testing kids. What is your logic? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 A and B........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackem Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 A and B........ probably afraid you will loose an athlete Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I don't see it as a waste of money it's just like real life any good jobs in the real world requires drug testing That probably isn't true, the only jobs that require drug testing is DOT and that is a federal law. If other companies drug test they do it on their own free will or policy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I don't really see the point in drug testing adults in the private sector... that's up to the company to decide. I do agree with D.O.T. testing to try t Ok ensure safe drivers in order to protect others lives on the roads. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I don't really see the point in drug testing adults in the private sector... that's up to the company to decide. I do agree with D.O.T. testing to try t Ok ensure safe drivers in order to protect others lives on the roads. DOT does everything with driving, working on pipelines anything they have jurisdiction over, mostly random drug test Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhioState Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Epic waste of money. Not the schools job to police activity away from school or at home. Any argument made for drug testing could also be made for sex education. Essentially you are saying its the schools job to police or parent activity away from campus. Agreed. In this day of poor school funding, money could go elsewhere. It should be the parent or guardians responsibility. You can purchase testing kits online for a minimal amount of money. Also, please do not think for one second, there are not schools out there who will sweep results for certain kids right under the rug. Been there. Seen it. Know it is true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bock Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 schools have it in their board policies to test or not test, it is a local decision...our local district tests and I agree with that decision a school can't test a kid they "suspect" if the student is not in the defined testing pool (extracurriculars, drivers etc...) if they do test someone they "suspect" then that is a clear violation of policy and the school would be on shaky legal ground the tests usually run about $8-$12 for a nine panel test and then the costs rise for checking for more substances such as synthetic weed Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Either the pool of kids to be tested should include ALL kids in school or NONE at all. Just testing kids in extracurricular activities is wrong and possibly illegal. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 probably afraid you will loose an athlete I no longer coach.......if parents want their kids drug tested, Wal-Mart sells them......don't waste tax payer dollars on something that's the parents responsibility........ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramfan1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I love the idea of drug testing for welfare recipients. But public education is funded with tax dollars and whether they are smoking dope or not we have compulsory laws and must educate them. Unlike most jobs, drug testing public school students is funded with tax dollars. Should we also teach religion since many parents don't adequately attend church with their children? Should we also pay for all their vaccinations? I just think activity away from the school is the parents and justice system/law enforcements domain. They are teaching religion in school. Only it is every religion except christianity. You can teach hindu, buddism, muslim, or anything but Christ. If you teach the bible yuou get fired or arrested or both. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Teaching the plain facts about religions of the world is actually good curriculum in my opinion. Teaching children which one they should believe in or which one is correct is unlawful and grounds for automatic dismissal. Religions/spiritual beliefs have been a part of the world since time began. It is inappropriate NOT to teach about the religions. Just don't disciple or persuade children in public schools. That's a job for mom and dad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debragga Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 I no longer coach.......if parents want their kids drug tested, Wal-Mart sells them......don't waste tax payer dollars on something that's the parents responsibility........It's not necessarily that the parents want them drug tested, it's that the the school doesn't want a bunch of dope heads running around. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 It's not necessarily that the parents want them drug tested, it's that the the school doesn't want a bunch of dope heads running around. The school can't kick kids out for failing a drug test, so what's the point??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 As a parent of two school aged kids and a taxpayer, I don't want my tax $$ being used to fund sports or other activities for a kid who is using. And I'd rather go 0-10 with a team that's clean than win state with Cheech and Chong running the ball. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 So... how is random drug testing by schools a negative? Is it: A) a violation of your civil rights? B) a waste of your tax money? C) you think pot is all natural and we shouldn't test because it's actually better for you and less harmful than alcohol... and you don't care that it is against the law? D) all of the above? Just trying to figure out why you are against schools testing kids. What is your logic? A and B. As I stated if a parent wants to have their kid go through a weekly drug test they should foot the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 As a parent of two school aged kids and a taxpayer, I don't want my tax $$ being used to fund sports or other activities for a kid who is using. And I'd rather go 0-10 with a team that's clean than win state with Cheech and Chong running the ball. Ok....what about the ones who don't do anything, yet are dopeheads.....THEY are funded by your tax $$$$ as well, yet they have zero consequences....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted November 8, 2015 Share Posted November 8, 2015 Ok....what about the ones who don't do anything, yet are dopeheads.....THEY are funded by your tax $$$$ as well, yet they have zero consequences.......I'm not paying for them to represent my community. If they're so intent on getting high that they don't want to stay clean and play, they're born losers anyway. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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