EnjoyLife Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 Healthcare spending per person in 2017............ Austria $5440...Australia $4543...Canada $4826...France $4902...Germany $5728...Japan $4717...UK $4246. United States $10,224 Â Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 2 hours ago, EnjoyLife said: Healthcare spending per person in 2017............ Austria $5440...Australia $4543...Canada $4826...France $4902...Germany $5728...Japan $4717...UK $4246. United States $10,224 Â Â Americans pay more & get less care. Â Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, CENTEXFAN said: Americans pay more & get less care. Â How much R&D is being done by those other countries? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 15 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: How much R&D is being done by those other countries? They do quite a bit in both Asia and Europe. Europe uses EMA ( European Medicine Agency ) funds several guidance and support to research facilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted December 18, 2018 Share Posted December 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: How much R&D is being done by those other countries? This video calls out Corey Booker saving Big Pharm., and calls out Obama lies. Oh by the way Monte listen to the video at the 5:09 mark of the video on American research &development   Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 It would be interesting to know just how much of their own money pharma spends on R & D compared to how much is financed by the taxpayers. Also...despite spending $billions we do not seem to actually cure anything anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Fwiw...just a few decades ago it was illegal for pharma to advertise directly to the public...it was also illegal for lawyers to get on tv and beg you to let them sue somebody. We need to go back to that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 1 minute ago, EnjoyLife said: It would be interesting to know just how much of their own money pharma spends on R & D compared to how much is financed by the taxpayers. Also...despite spending $billions we do not seem to actually cure anything anymore. When it comes to fighting cancer seems like the same old thing chemo you would think after while something new would come along after all the cancer research  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted December 19, 2018 Share Posted December 19, 2018 Healthcare is complicated because there are so many different parts. We need to make sure everyone has adequate access and that we maintain research and development and that health care professionals are fairly compensated...all while lowering costs. Running all the lobbyists out of Washington would be a good place to start. Wish I had the answer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 12/19/2018 at 4:27 PM, EnjoyLife said: It would be interesting to know just how much of their own money pharma spends on R & D compared to how much is financed by the taxpayers. Also...despite spending $billions we do not seem to actually cure anything anymore. It has been my contention for years, since I lost my dad to cancer in 1999, that the cure for it has already been found. I believe it was found as far back as the ‘70s. However, there is way more $$$ to be made TREATING cancer than there is in CURING it. I believe that the healthcare and pharmaceutical industry, along with worldwide governments, are allowing cancer to continue to kill people. The UN is ok with it because it helps with their population control issues, and they probably get their pockets greased as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 You do know government insurance sets the rates for most medical reimbursement to doctors and hospitals and big pharm right?  Don’t believe me?  Look it up.  The reason it costs $200 with insurance for an EpiPen is because government says that’s how much you can charge Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
EnjoyLife Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 6 hours ago, trueblue82 said: It has been my contention for years, since I lost my dad to cancer in 1999, that the cure for it has already been found. I believe it was found as far back as the ‘70s. However, there is way more $$$ to be made TREATING cancer than there is in CURING it. I believe that the healthcare and pharmaceutical industry, along with worldwide governments, are allowing cancer to continue to kill people. The UN is ok with it because it helps with their population control issues, and they probably get their pockets greased as well. I do not know if a cure for cancer has ever been discovered or not but there is no doubt in my mind that pharma would weigh profits from the cure against profits from treating the disease. Sorry about your dad. My dad passed August 5, 2002 with colon cancer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 US ranks dead last in healthcare again among modern nations. Â http://time.com/2888403/u-s-health-care-ranked-worst-in-the-developed-world/?xid=tcoshare Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 All major Pharmaceutical companies announced they were raising prices for prescription drugs. Â https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-prices-oxycontin-predaxa-purdue-pharmaceuticals-boehringer-ingelheim/ Â The drum beat for socialized medicine gets louder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, CENTEXFAN said: All major Pharmaceutical companies announced they were raising prices for prescription drugs.  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/drug-prices-oxycontin-predaxa-purdue-pharmaceuticals-boehringer-ingelheim/  The drum beat for socialized medicine gets louder. Only from you and others dumb enough to vote for the chick from New York. Most of us prefer quality. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, trueblue82 said: Only from you and others dumb enough to vote for the chick from New York. Most of us prefer quality. The Joaquin village idiot still has the internet. The drug prices will cause the HMOs to raise their premiums and deductibles to cover the prices. Many more people can't afford their health plan. Trump said in December he was going to lower drug prices. What disrespect to Trump by drug companies raising their prices weeks after Trump said that.   Healthcare was the #1 issue in 2018 Mid-Terms. Illegal immigration was way down the list.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 18 minutes ago, CENTEXFAN said: The Joaquin village idiot still has the internet. The drug prices will cause the HMOs to raise their premiums and deductibles to cover the prices. Many more people can't afford their health plan. Trump said in December he was going to lower drug prices. What disrespect to Trump by drug companies raising their prices weeks after Trump said that.   Healthcare was the #1 issue in 2018 Mid-Terms. Illegal immigration was way down the list.  Healthcare was the #1 issue in the 2010 midterms as well, because the American people were not happy about having socialized medicine crammed down their throats. A large percentage of conservatives stayed home in ‘18, not because they wanted the socialist/ communist/ democrat party to take over, but because they were tired of voting for conservative rhetoric and getting losers like Paul Ryan who try to get along with the enemy. And just to clarify, in case you’re too dense to understand it, yes I did just call the democrat party the ENEMY of the American people. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 Rand Paul who said ; " Socialized medicine results in slavery, " Just went to Canada to have surgery. What is wrong with American healthcare that Rand Paul left abroad to seek treatment ?  http://fortune.com/2019/01/14/rand-paul-surgery-canada/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 30 minutes ago, CENTEXFAN said: Rand Paul who said ; " Socialized medicine results in slavery, " Just went to Canada to have surgery. What is wrong with American healthcare that Rand Paul left abroad to seek treatment ?  http://fortune.com/2019/01/14/rand-paul-surgery-canada/ Just like the left to print a slanted story, and assume the reasons he was going there.  The hospital he is going to is one of the top leaders in non mesh hernia surgery.  He will have to pay by cash, check, or credit card since he doesn't fall into the coverage that they accept.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 7 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said: Just like the left to print a slanted story, and assume the reasons he was going there.  The hospital he is going to is one of the top leaders in non mesh hernia surgery.  He will have to pay by cash, check, or credit card since he doesn't fall into the coverage that they accept.  You missed the point. Why isn't American surgery better than Canada. Why can't he get a good doctor for his hernia surgery here in America ? He will still pa much less in Canada than in America than most people would.  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/canadian-family-drives-home-from-florida-with-dead-body-to-avoid-us-health-care-costs-reports-say/ar-BBVN1Y6?li=BBnbcA1  According to the article, the man passed away from a heart attack in the car. So instead of trying to get him help in the United States, they keep on driving. Because of costs. Yes, I know that costs are somewhat high, but to allow your husband/father to just die in the car--that is some type of sick. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CENTEXFAN Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 1 hour ago, DannyZuco said: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/canadian-family-drives-home-from-florida-with-dead-body-to-avoid-us-health-care-costs-reports-say/ar-BBVN1Y6?li=BBnbcA1  According to the article, the man passed away from a heart attack in the car. So instead of trying to get him help in the United States, they keep on driving. Because of costs. Yes, I know that costs are somewhat high, but to allow your husband/father to just die in the car--that is some type of sick. If he survived, he would have had another heart attack when he received the bill. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 I understand, but they should have at least tried to help the guy. I mean they could have gone back to Canada afterwards and never paid the bill. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 10, 2019 Share Posted April 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, DannyZuco said: I understand, but they should have at least tried to help the guy. I mean they could have gone back to Canada afterwards and never paid the bill. Exactly, but you can't do that in many countries.  They may not have known that the U.S. hospitals will let you go, and not hold you hostage.  The best thing to do while travelling is to carry a short term international insurance plan while away for whatever reasons.  It would be best to do it for the countries that you are visiting however.  https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hospitals-around-the-world-detain-patients-who-cannot-pay-medical-bills/ .  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whs1965 Posted April 11, 2019 Share Posted April 11, 2019 DOES ANYONE UNDERSTAND THE MEDICARE FOR ALL DEAL?  if so please explain. or do we need a manual that any one can understand? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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