ETXfan16 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 This is the hot topic as of late... Want to hear some thoughts on this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 MJ ... all day, every day ... not even close .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrBuddyGarrity Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 nm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Better at what? Â MJ was a better scorer. Â Lebron is a better passer and rebounder. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 MJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted May 30, 2017 Author Share Posted May 30, 2017 To answer the question: MJ. Â Â Its really hard to say who is the GOAT, got different eras and levels of competition to factor in. I go with MJ, but I know a lot of people who go with LeBron. I think LBJ is great, but I have more respect for MJ. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 It's too early to tell. Once LeBron finishes his career then I'll compare the two. I think there are many players that could be the G.O.A.T. in the NBA Wilt Chamberlain all time rebounder and scored 100 points. People said he didn't pass the ball enough, and the next year he proved them wrong by leading the league in assists. Bill Russell 11X NBA Champion that no one will touch. Kareem Abdul Jabbar, Michael Jordan, and LeBron James after maybe his career is over. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted May 30, 2017 Share Posted May 30, 2017 Jordan was Jordan. He'd drop 40 on you in a heartbeat. When he wanted to work on his defense he became a DPOY. Clutch. He had that killer mentality where he'd rip your heart out. Yes he had Pippen but look at that first three peat team. Those weren't a overly loaded team with talent. Those last three had Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc and Harper though. Â Lebron is a bigger, more physical Magic Johnson. He took a bad Cleveland team to the Finals. It took Wade and Bosh. Allen, Battier, Chalmers to get those Miami rings. Same thing in Cleveland part 2. Â I'm giving the talent edge to Lebron. 6-8, 260 and runs like a Deere. The mental though, making him the better player is Jordan. The Pistons were the crucible that made him great. He realized that talent wasn't going to get it. He had to become that cold blooded killer. Six rings to three. Nuff said. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Jordan was Jordan. He'd drop 40 on you in a heartbeat. When he wanted to work on his defense he became a DPOY. Clutch. He had that killer mentality where he'd rip your heart out. Yes he had Pippen but look at that first three peat team. Those weren't a overly loaded team with talent. Those last three had Rodman, Kerr, Kukoc and Harper though. Â Lebron is a bigger, more physical Magic Johnson. He took a bad Cleveland team to the Finals. It took Wade and Bosh. Allen, Battier, Chalmers to get those Miami rings. Same thing in Cleveland part 2. Â I'm giving the talent edge to Lebron. 6-8, 260 and runs like a Deere. The mental though, making him the better player is Jordan. The Pistons were the crucible that made him great. He realized that talent wasn't going to get it. He had to become that cold blooded killer. Six rings to three. Nuff said. You mean MJ 6-9, LBJ 3-2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 You mean MJ 6-9, LBJ 3-2 Â Huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Â Huh? 6-0 not 6-9... meaning their record in championship series 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 How many was Jordan an underdog in the finals? Â Lebron has played tougher teams in the Finals than Jordan did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 How many was Jordan an underdog in the finals? Â Lebron has played tougher teams in the Finals than Jordan did. The 2011 Mavericks??? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 The 2011 Mavericks???That's one. The 2007 Spurs, 2013 Spurs, 2014 Spurs, 2015 Warriors, and 2016 Warriors are all better teams than any team that MJ faced in the Finals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 MJ didn't lose in the Finals because he always had the better roster. Â What was the Bulls record when MJ left after the 93 season? Â Then look at the Cavs in 2008 and Heat in 2015: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Now here is the thing. I love them both as players. They both bring things that we have never seen in the NBA. Â Jordan had that killer instinct. Not only did he have that instinct, he executed it most of the time when it mattered. He was a pure scorer who was a great defender. He had some "Big 3" type teams when he won those championships... No one else did. So, his path to greatness was a bit easier, but why take away his greatness because of it? Â Now Lebron... built like an NFL Linebacker (but taller)... Runs like a gazelle, has a pure shot... Bigger, faster, smarter, and just better than EVERY single person he lines up against. I don't hold his Cleveland NBA Finals loss against him... but those Miami ones... man... Â That is what gives Jordan a slight edge for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I think Jordan is better, but it is a lot closer then a lot of people choose to acknowledge. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 It's flip a coin on who you want to draft first to build a expansion team around. Â That '07 Cavs team is the worst team that either guy took to a Finals. Â Now MJ had a couple shots to close out a Finals but let it go to a game 5 or 6. He never had a 2-1 lead and let a team reel off three straight wins and clinch on his turf. That Ray Allen three pointer against San Antonio is hard to count for or against LBJ's Finals record. You take it away he's 2-3 but does SA come back to beat them the next year out of revenge? They don't in my book. Â That '96 Sonics team was pretty good. 64-18. Shawn Kemp. Gary Payton. Detlef Schrempf. They beat a tough Jazz team in the Western Conference Finals. I would them out beside that '13 Spurs team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ETXfan16 Posted May 31, 2017 Author Share Posted May 31, 2017 I think Jordan is better, but it is a lot closer then a lot of people choose to acknowledge. I agree with you here. It's just hard to picture someone being better than Michael... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 MJ. This shouldn't even be a question. Â agree .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 It doesn't matter. If Lebron is supposed to be the GOAT, then he wouldn't get beat by any of those teams. MJ was not only the best player on the court, he also made every player around him better. That's why he didn't lose in the finals. Lebron doesn't do that, and when the game is on the line he fails to make big plays. That's why he has lost so many finals. Not because the teams he's played were better, but because he doesn't have that killer instinct like MJ did. Lebron whines and complains to much! Â not to mention he is just plain lazy at times .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 I think Jordan is better, but it is a lot closer then a lot of people choose to acknowledge. Â This I agree with. Â I mean, we are talking about #1 vs #2... Â I don't see whoever #3 is being even close to measuring up to these 2 guys, whether it be Kobe, Wilt or whoever... Lebron and Jordan were and are on just a whole different level compared to the rest in my opinion... Â Stephen A and whoever else talk about players that "transcend the game." Kobe didn't transcend anything... he tried to mimick Jordan. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Kobe was better than Lebron too! It's the truth! Â That's where you lose me. Â Kobe is not even the best player of his generation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Who was better then? Â Tim Duncan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted May 31, 2017 Share Posted May 31, 2017 Two totally different players with the same amount of rings. I give Kobe a slight edge over Tim! Â Tim Duncan never missed the playoffs, or had a team with a losing record. He has one more MVP. He was also the best player on 4 NBA championship teams instead of just 2 like Kobe. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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