CarthDawg77 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 minute ago, Youngcoach123 said: So Dawgs -16? I would still take the Dawgs. Now if I could get 24 that might be a wager worth exploring. I've really watched one film,and The Ships seem run heavy, which plays into Carthage's Defense's hands; they seem to have great speed, so maybe they get their points better than Huffman-Hargraves did. Carthage has no history against them, I don't think, so my "spread" is based purely on speculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 hours ago, DOB said: I enjoyed my high school playing days there ... proud to have graduated from there ... super coaches ... and got a really good education. But being born in East Texas, living 90%+ of my life in ET, coaching and teaching 40 years in ET ... it's kind like my Mother usta say about her ET kinfolks: "When they cut themselves shaving, they bleed red dirt and green pines" And when you live in the heart of East Texas ... and you're a dyed-in-the-wool HS football fan ... you learn real quick that you shouldn't waste your hard earned money betting against Surratt and the Red Dawgs ... cause there just ain't no money to be made in doing so. Awesome! Go Dawgs! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 1 hour ago, Youngcoach123 said: Somebody give a spread for this game. Carthage - 48 Brazosport - 20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 This is them playing the team we meet up against. Honestly, I don't see where either team is that good. But, been wrong before. http://www.hudl.com/v/2837S8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 Just watched DTrump’s Hudl video. I think the Bulldogs will win 49-21. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 The Dawg defense will dominate this game. (My opinion) K Ingram will have a big game. (Again, my opinion) Lets Go Dawgs (dominate) !!!!!! God Bless coaches, players, and fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 21, 2017 Author Share Posted November 21, 2017 11 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said: Just watched DTrump’s Hudl video. I think the Bulldogs will win 49-21. It’s the King & Davis show on offense. Contain King and keep Davis in the pocket and force him to beat us with his arm. I would say their secondary may be overmatched with the Carthage passing game. If we can establish our running game early with Ingram we will be able to throw a ton the rest of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 I think the starters will sit at least a quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 38 minutes ago, DTrump said: This is them playing the team we meet up against. Honestly, I don't see where either team is that good. But, been wrong before. http://www.hudl.com/v/2837S8 Did anybody tell Sealy they were there for a football game? They don't even TRY to tackle....😳 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 2 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said: Did anybody tell Sealy they were there for a football game? They don't even TRY to tackle....😳 I know.......It seems like the whole district forgot about defense. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 21, 2017 Share Posted November 21, 2017 That's the trend ... but it's the D that generally separates the contenders from the pretenders .... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 So tell us about that exporter d Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aggie98 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Brazosport looks pretty darn fast in that video, but not any faster than some of the teams Carthage has handled this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Henderson8830 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Carthage 46 Brazosport 14 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 From 1 -9, 0-6 in district, one year to winning a playoff game the next year is impressive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 33 minutes ago, cotton84 said: From 1 -9, 0-6 in district, one year to winning a playoff game the next year is impressive. There is some recent history between Surratt & Ferrell even though Carthage has never played Brazosport. http://texashsfootball.com/brazosport-tabs-mike-ferrell-new-head-coach/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 12 hours ago, DAWG91 said: So tell us about that exporter d Just looking at the straight numbers .... They score 41 per game and give up 30 per game. They won four of their games by a touch or less ... and lost one close in OT They gave up 50 to West Columbia in a loss in Wk 9 and had never given up less than 21 all season until the shutout of Worthing last week. Given the ratio using pure numbers indicates Carthage by something like 38-28 ... but that assumes a lot of assumptions ... like equal opponents during the year. However, my experience over the years with pure numbers (and looking at difficulty of schedule ratio of both), the result falls more into a range of 42/45 to 20/26 ... most of difficulty of schedule ratios come from an examination of quality wins (ie-wins vs teams with winning records): of that, Carthage is 4-0 vs teams with a winning record; while BP rests at 3-4 ... but the fact that BP has played more teams with a winning record than C tells us that BP has been well-tested in big game situations ... all-in-all, we shall see ... Pure numbers tend to mean less when the game is played by seventeen-year olds with a ball that is shaped in such a way that it bounces funny and big Mo is often a fickle friend ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 36 minutes ago, DOB said: Just looking at the straight numbers .... They score 41 per game and give up 30 per game. They won four of their games by a touch or less ... and lost one close in OT They gave up 50 to West Columbia in a loss in Wk 9 and had never given up less than 21 all season until the shutout of Worthing last week. Given the ratio using pure numbers indicates Carthage by something like 38-28 ... but that assumes a lot of assumptions ... like equal opponents during the year. However, my experience over the years with pure numbers (and looking at difficulty of schedule ratio of both), the result falls more into a range of 42/45 to 20/24 ... most of difficulty of schedule ratios come from an examination of quality wins (ie-wins vs teams with winning records): of that, Carthage is 4-0 vs teams with a winning record; while BP rests at 3-4 ... but the fact that BP has played more teams with a winning record than C tells us that BP has been well-tested in big game situations ... all-in-all, we shall see ... Pure numbers tend to mean less when the game is played with a ball that is shaped in such a way that it bounces funny and big Mo is often a fickle friend ... Wow. Are you in politics? LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, DawgNation2015 said: Wow. Are you in politics? LOL No ... I hate 'em ... just an old, old coach who follows the game. One thing to remember about statistics ... if you believe in them 100%, then you should believe that: IF YOU SET YOUR HAIR ON FIRE and FREEZE YOUR FEET IN A BUCKET OF ICE .... THEN YOU SHOULD BE ACTUALLY QUITE COMFORTABLE ... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 No afternoon game to my knowledge at Texan Drive...its a VERY nice stadium.......traffic shouldn't be too bad as its on the far northern reaches of the Houston area...it's right off 59 so easy on and easy off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 1 minute ago, DOB said: No ... I hate 'em ... just an old, old coach who follows the game. One thing to remember about statistics ... if you believe in them 100%, then you should believe that: IF YOU SET YOUR HAIR ON FIRE and FREEZE YOUR FEET IN A BUCKET OF ICE .... THEN YOU SHOULD BE ACTUALLY QUITE COMFORTABLE ... Ha ha. Just messing with you. I do believe that stats will give you tendencies that can be used as part of your overall strategy on O & D. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 2 minutes ago, DawgNation2015 said: Ha ha. Just messing with you. I do believe that stats will give you tendencies that can be used as part of your overall strategy on O & D. Pure statistical data is more calming to look at than looking into the eyes of a uniformed seventeen-year old standing on the sideline before a big game wondering what they are thinking ... it's also easier to deal with numbers on a page than deciding what play to call when it's fourth-and-goal from the three and the entire season is on the line. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 11 minutes ago, DOB said: Pure statistical data is more calming to look at than looking into the eyes of a uniformed seventeen-year old standing on the sideline before a big game wondering what they are thinking ... it's also easier to deal with numbers on a page than deciding what play to call when it's fourth-and-goal from the three and the entire season is on the line. True. But I chose not to enter the coaching profession. So I can enjoy looking at the stats all I want and cheer on the team on the 4th & goal play. If we make it I can say I would have made the same call. If we don’t I would have run a different play! It’s the best of both worlds! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted November 22, 2017 Share Posted November 22, 2017 Thanks for the info DOB. Given the Dawgs history in playoffs of allowing opponent to score only about half of their season avg, i'm gonna stick with my pick of 54-20. It just sounds about right. Now Dawgs, Go Make It Happen! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 22, 2017 Author Share Posted November 22, 2017 This game will feature two really good RB’s - King from Brazosport and Ingram from Carthage. In 11 games King has rushed 271 times for 2,388 yards and 30 TD’s. A whopping 8.8 ypc avg. Ingram has also played in 11 games on the year. He has rushed 158 times for 1,566 yards & 26 TD’s. That’s right 9.9 ypc avg. Which back will get the most rushing yards Fri? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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