DaveTV1 Posted January 9, 2018 Share Posted January 9, 2018 9 hours ago, SideTracker said: Wrong! The article was not asking you or anyone else to compare the two parties. It's subject was concerning republicOns. Pay attention! As I've said all Presidents since Eisenhower have increased the debt. Since then only Nixon and Clinton reduced their budgets, but it's hard for any President today to reduce the debt with 1 trillion in interest every year. It's probably more than that now, because when I read it was only a trillion the debt was only $20 trillion, but now it's $20.6+. I couldn't even count how many thousands per second that it rose, because the debt clock was going way too fast. Trump has made some cuts, but many of the Dems are crying about that all ready. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 2 hours ago, SideTracker said: I was kind of curious in our friendly discussions and tIrades, lol, what you might do about the 20% of American populous that draw disability? Kick 'em all the curb? Honestly IMO unless one is diagnosed as bat dung crazy from PTSD, has loss of body parts or is restricted to a wheel chair...all others need not apply. What's up with the easy way out crowd anyway? I just want to puke when a vet that otherwise does not meet the criteria of above, well, probably bat dung crazy anyway, tells me "there is nothing out there". In other words the vet does not want to work for the wages his skill set provides...bottom line. Anytime someone tells you their life story how tough they have had it beware, they are filling you full of bs. Poor babies. So much fraud goes on. That is just my opinion side tracked or not. BTW, since no politician can garnish enough votes in order to win that talks about eliminating so called entitlements don't expect improvements. This is part of the duped theory BTW. It's kind of like it's ok for my dog to poop in your flower bed and better not see yours doing the same in mine. smh I could get behind the majority of disqualifiers for the 20%. For sure that needs to come down. I also think there is a vast amount of places to start before taking vets benifits no matter how wasteful it is. The last paragraph about the duped is weird to me. Anyone who is receiving benefits from the gov is not going to vote it away. As the same with SS and Medicare and Medicaid. I know someone is going to attack me for this because "they paid into it". But there is a lot of money that gets pulled out that didn't get paid in. And when the point comes that you are withdrawing more than you put it, that's when it is an entitlement now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted January 10, 2018 Share Posted January 10, 2018 1 minute ago, SideTracker said: ^ No one will attack you. My point is no politician is going to push hard on eliminating SS and Medicare regardless which side of the dupe they align. That means lost votes not that it matters as President Trump said elections are rigged anyway. Just keep on working and contributing. Thanks for the contributions. Maybe at some point the duopoly will figure out a cut off age and you may not be required to donate. You don't really believe "Uncle Sugar" will ever give up a Revenue Stream, do you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sideliner Posted January 11, 2018 Share Posted January 11, 2018 They also laid off hundreds of employees and closed several Sams clubs...Trump can take credit for that also. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 http://www.nasdaq.com/symbol/wmt/stock-chart Its called business. Stores open and close due to all types of localized factors as well as overall performance of the company. With more money kept in pockets more money from stock market they could float bad stores if they wanted to. It's not good business to throw good money after bad. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2018/01/11/number-americans-unemployment-benefits-falls-44-year-low/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 12, 2018 Author Share Posted January 12, 2018 Free market ... low taxes ... best economic system on earth ... next question ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 I don't know about stagnant wages but I do know the stock market is not stagnant at this time.....That could change but right now looking good Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sideliner Posted January 12, 2018 Share Posted January 12, 2018 Free market in Texas for electricity average bill $140.00 per month. Regulated market in Texas for electricity average bill $70.00 per month. Best system on earth...next question. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 13, 2018 Author Share Posted January 13, 2018 3 hours ago, SideTracker said: Corporatocracy does not create free markets. Wake up! So, you are for higher taxes and more government regulations? ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 1 hour ago, SideTracker said: Not even. Never. Each president enters office with a roll of the dice on economics. Its actually a predetermined cyclical economy though, good or bad. Clinton got a good roll on a predetermined economy. Some people say his was a good economy. Not necessarily ... a president can do a great deal to influence our economy. President Trump has done and said the right things to influence the economy and it has reacted positively with growth and reassurance. Yes, there are residual things that are inherited and the affects of good or bad economic policy can have lingering effects into a new administration. The Clinton economy was already turning sour by his last year in office due to his bad policy which triggered the housing collapse during the Bush administration ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 14, 2018 Author Share Posted January 14, 2018 26 minutes ago, SideTracker said: Always an excuse, always an excuse. Some say President Trump inherited an economy on the upswing. So I guess GW left the next administration in a mess. And it matters not from which side of the dupe the excuses originate. The financial meltdown did not take place until 2008. GW had 8 years to work on that. I'm not blaming GW and you have yet to provide anything contrary to what I say about cyclical economies. Never mind the sheep are silent to things like "too big to fail" and 20 plus trillion $ debts. "Some People" would be wrong. Anyone with half a brain can see Obama ran our economy into the ground with anti-economic growth policies and over regulation. Nothing Obama did improved our economy in the least, as evidenced by the worst economic growth statistics of any president in history. Upswing? Laughable .... The financial meltdown that happened during the start of GWB's presidency was due to subprime lending and the housing collapse that clearly had nothing to do anything he did. In fact he tried to reform Freddie and Fannie again and again and was stonewalled by dimocrats. What's happening now is a direct result of Trump's pro growth economic policies and tax reforms ... tru storie ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted January 14, 2018 Share Posted January 14, 2018 3 hours ago, SideTracker said: Always an excuse, always an excuse. Some say President Trump inherited an economy on the upswing. So I guess GW left the next administration in a mess. And it matters not from which side of the dupe the excuses originate. The financial meltdown did not take place until 2008. GW had 8 years to work on that. I'm not blaming GW and you have yet to provide anything contrary to what I say about cyclical economies. Never mind the sheep are silent to things like "too big to fail" and 20 plus trillion $ debts. Did you mean its shut up money though? My point in all of this is it matters not which side of the dupe. There were idiots that worshiped the Clintons and obama just like there are idiots that are worshiping President Trump. Yes, that is Exactly what he meant... good luck trying to help him with his spelling/ grammer, etc... lord knows I've tried... he simply enjoys ticking other people off...🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 6 hours ago, Lion70 said: You so get me No.... not really.......😏 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted January 15, 2018 Share Posted January 15, 2018 4 hours ago, SideTracker said: Is this a family feud? NOPE.... just like beatin' a DEAD HORSE, can't can't Anything "through" his head!🙄 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-oil-record-shale-analysis/u-s-oil-industry-set-to-break-record-upend-global-trade-idUSKBN1F50HV A few years ago it was almost impossible for me to believe we would ever be at 10 million barrels per day of oil produciton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, SideTracker said: I'm excited about prices for consumer goods like gasoline declining as a result of record production. So far it seems to reflect an upward trend in CPI. What about the coal miners? I don't see a big future for coal even though they say America is the Saudi Arabia of coal. I know that they are still digging lignite for the Marshall Perky plant and the plant at Tatum. Natural Gas has become so cheap it is putting the hurt on big coal. I think the Coal industry looks at Trump as their savior from the EPA but realize if they put a lot of investment money into their infrastructure and the Donald ends up a one term president they will be back at square one. What do you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 3 minutes ago, SideTracker said: Well, if the coal industry craters Trump can take credit. I like trees. I think they are essential to what humans breathe. At the same time coal is just an outdated nasty energy source gone by the wayside. Those miners were duped. lol Well there could be a way to clean it up down the road, who knows Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 I am enjoying the run up, but unfortunately most of my 401K was put into safe funds and are not seeing a great jump but I have some still in the S&P 500 that is doing very well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 The stock marked has flourished in spite of some very bad administrations and anti-economic growth policies ... case in point, Obama .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 Trump is commonsensically undoing, piece by piece, the main components of Obama’s legacy (via National Review) The entire essay is a rather interesting comparison, whether you agree with Trump or not. I think it's one of the best distillations of the two presidents' approach to governance and actual policies I've seen thus far. Here are some key excerpts: Quote In reductionist terms, Trump is the un-Obama. Surprisingly, that is saying quite a lot more than simple reductive negativism. Republicans have not seriously attempted to roll back the administrative state since Reagan. On key issues of climate change, entitlements, illegal immigration, government spending, and globalization, it was sometimes hard to distinguish a Bush initiative from a Clinton policy or a McCain bill from a Biden proposal. There was often a reluctant acceptance of the seemingly inevitable march to the European-style socialist administrative state. and Quote The Un-Obama agenda was not simply reflexive or easy — given that Obama was the apotheosis of a decades-long progressive dream. After all, in year one, Trump has been demonized in a manner unprecedented in post-war America, given the astonishing statistic that 90 percent of all media coverage of his person and policies has been negative. Obama was a representation of a progressive view of the Constitution that about a quarter of the population holds, but in Obama, that view found a rare megaphone for an otherwise hard sell. One would have thought that all Republican presidents and presidential candidate would be something like the antitheses to progressivism. In truth, few really were. So given the lateness of the national hour, a "President Nobama" could prove to be quite a change. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 45 minutes ago, Matthias said: Trump is commonsensically undoing, piece by piece, the main components of Obama’s legacy (via National Review) The entire essay is a rather interesting comparison, whether you agree with Trump or not. I think it's one of the best distillations of the two presidents' approach to governance and actual policies I've seen thus far. Here are some key excerpts: and What's all this talk about Change? I was hearing that for the 8 years prior to Trump 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted January 16, 2018 Share Posted January 16, 2018 4 hours ago, Wild74 said: Well there could be a way to clean it up down the road, who knows There may very well be. However, the entire country would benefit from the government getting behind a phaseout of coal and a transition to natural gas. We’re gonna run out of coal a lot quicker than we do gas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 16, 2018 Author Share Posted January 16, 2018 Grover Norquist: GOP May Add Congress Seats After Tax CutsBy Jason Devaney | Monday, 15 Jan 2018 09:02 PM History says Republicans might gain seats in Congress this year because of the tax cuts signed into law by President Donald Trump, tax expert Grover Norquist told Newsmax TV. Norquist talked taxes on "Newsmax Now" and gave a history lesson when discussing the 2018 midterms and the GOP's chances of holding on to its majorities in the House and Senate. "Bill Clinton raised taxes and lost 52 House seats," Norquist said. "Obama raised taxes and lost over 60 House seats. President [H.W.] Bush cut taxes and he lost 27, half as many as the Democrats did and half of those were because of redistricting 80-82. "Then you go to George W. Bush, elected in 2000, he gained House seats. History says Republicans might gain seats in Congress this year because of the tax cuts signed into law by President Donald Trump, tax expert Grover Norquist told Newsmax TV. Norquist talked taxes on "Newsmax Now" and gave a history lesson when discussing the 2018 midterms and the GOP's chances of holding on to its majorities in the House and Senate. "Bill Clinton raised taxes and lost 52 House seats," Norquist said. "Obama raised taxes and lost over 60 House seats. President [H.W.] Bush cut taxes and he lost 27, half as many as the Democrats did and half of those were because of redistricting 80-82. "Then you go to George W. Bush, elected in 2000, he gained House seats. "Trump has come in and has cut taxes . . . For the next 10 months, every two weeks, people see a bigger paycheck from lower taxes. And in the case of millions and millions of Americans, bigger paychecks because of bonuses and pay increases, and half the country sees a dramatic increase in their life savings due to the stock market going up because of the lower business taxes, and then after that the jobs created by a stronger and growing economy." Norquist added, "You kinda have a difficult situation explaining to people that that's what Armageddon looks like." Several Republican lawmakers are retiring after this year and Democrats are trying to tie every Republican candidate — incumbents and challengers — to Trump, hoping to persuade Americans to vote against the president's party. Read Full Article Here Grover Norquist: Dems Will Have Trouble Campaigning Against Tax Cuts https://www.newsmax.com/newsmax-tv/grover-norquist-tax-cuts-gop-2018/2018/01/15/id/837294/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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