TheSacrificialShamAsPerPet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 how to deal with persia? leave them alone as any good isolationist should do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSacrificialShamAsPerPet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 bomb and nuke yourself into oblivion, bushie two, aka obama. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSacrificialShamAsPerPet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 i think you are a little mis informed. isolationism is good only if you keep the mexicans out at any cost. can we put acid in the rio grande? how good do they jump? otherwise get a grip. santa anna was let go after the alamo by sam houston who was a mason as was santa anna. santa anna later killer your brothers in the mexican american war. this #### is still happening today. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSacrificialShamAsPerPet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 mexicans glow in the dark but nobody seems to care. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSacrificialShamAsPerPet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 santa anna and pancho villa are waiting to pounce. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hornet Posted February 5, 2012 Share Posted February 5, 2012 Personally, I think it's all about religion. I believe the Iranians to be fanatics. Most Americans just want to live and be left alone. Of course, we have our fanatics, too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 More threats.... http://www.wnd.com/2012/02/ayatollah-kill-all-jews-annihilate-israel/ They're going to keep itching for a fight and they're going to get one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldandwhite Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 That can't be! The Iranians are no real threat to Israel. They just want nuclear power for electrical use! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted February 6, 2012 Share Posted February 6, 2012 ^ That's being a bit naive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideTracker Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Nothing about the history of nuclear weapons suggests any likelihood of a nuclear Iran using such weapons for anything but a deterrent. Nothing about the history of U.S. involvement in the Middle East suggests that another pre-emptive war in that region would be anything other than an unmitigated catastrophe. No one forces the United States to spend blood and treasure garrisoning the Middle East; we would be under no obligation to “contain” a nuclear armed Iran other than that imposed by imperial hubris. With the end of the Iraq War and the drawdown in Afghanistan, it is well past time for America to mind her own business and allow the nations of the Middle East — including Iran — to mind theirs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Nothing about the history of nuclear weapons suggests any likelihood of a nuclear Iran using such weapons for anything but a deterrent. Nothing about the history of U.S. involvement in the Middle East suggests that another pre-emptive war in that region would be anything other than an unmitigated catastrophe. No one forces the United States to spend blood and treasure garrisoning the Middle East; we would be under no obligation to "contain" a nuclear armed Iran other than that imposed by imperial hubris. With the end of the Iraq War and the drawdown in Afghanistan, it is well past time for America to mind her own business and allow the nations of the Middle East — including Iran — to mind theirs. you are absolutely right. Many forget about self preservation. Do you guys really think Iran would be stupid enough to let off a nuke on us or Israel. That would almost guarantee the end of Persia. Its like a guy with a hand gun starting a shoot out with a guy that has a machine gun. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideTracker Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 ^ But time is running out? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SideTracker Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Diane Sawyer and Brian Ross belong in a fear-mongering museum Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five0pd310 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 you are absolutely right. Many forget about self preservation. Do you guys really think Iran would be stupid enough to let off a nuke on us or Israel. That would almost guarantee the end of Persia. Its like a guy with a hand gun starting a shoot out with a guy that has a machine gun. What do you think Obama would do if Iran did nuke Israel. I'm not trying to start a squabble. I'm just curious about what you honestly think his reaction would be. I don't think Iran is dumb enough to do it, but I do think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a violent enough religious nut to do it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatGirl Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 What do you think Obama would do if Iran did nuke Israel. I'm not trying to start a squabble. I'm just curious about what you honestly think his reaction would be. I don't think Iran is dumb enough to do it, but I do think Mahmoud Ahmadinejad is a violent enough religious nut to do it. Ahmadinejad does not have that power, he does have power over commerce and trade. According to the Iranian Constitution the President of Iran does not have the power to launch weapons nor does he have much if any power over foreign policy or nuclear policy. The Iranian President is not the Top Dog in Iran, the Supreme Leader [Ali Khamenei] is the head of state and the commander of the military and is the one with the power to declare war or launch an attack. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parentofredheads Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Unfortunately, we don't know what's in the minds of these idiots. If Khamenei decides to, he'll have the backing of probably Russia with China somewhere amongst. Problem is, Russia and China isn't tickeled about Muslims either. The problem with violent Muslims is, they already kill their own people, killing other nationalities wouldn't bother 'em at all. Which brings to point, how can you sit down and have an intelligent conversation of peace with these kinds of people? I'm sure they're already selling oil to Russia and China, and I'm sure France and England can get it from somewhere else, the problem it poses is, it's going to raise our fuel prices, which is absolutely absurd, when we can take care of ourselves, but the WH has decided we won't! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 When Iran's stated goal is the total destruction of Israel, I don't think we, or Israel, can take the chance that Iran is not "dumb enough" to follow through with their threat. I am really surprised Israel has allowed Iran to get this far with their "peaceful" nuclear program. I have serious doubs about the gutless wonder we have in the White House providing much support for Israel before or after an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities .... and I know the RP loons with their heads in the sand wouldn't be much help either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five0pd310 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Ahmadinejad does not have that power, he does have power over commerce and trade. According to the Iranian Constitution the President of Iran does not have the power to launch weapons nor does he have much if any power over foreign policy or nuclear policy. The Iranian President is not the Top Dog in Iran, the Supreme Leader [Ali Khamenei] is the head of state and the commander of the military and is the one with the power to declare war or launch an attack. You know the president of Germany didn't have the power that Hitler ended up with, right? Hitler created that power himself. If Ahmadinejad wants to do it, I have a feeling he will find a way to do it. I doubt he'll be concerned about following the rules of Iran in doing so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
goldandwhite Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Israel has nothing to worry about. Ahmidenajad has stated many times that their nuclear research is to generate electricity. I know the Iranians won't let nuclear inspectors look at their entire nuclear operations, but that's just them trying to maintain some political leverage, right? They're surely not hiding anything, and certainly wouldn't lie about their intentions. Why is Israel not trusting the Iranians? An attempt to destroy Israel would be unprecedented, wouldn't it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Israel has nothing to worry about. Ahmidenajad has stated many times that their nuclear research is to generate electricity. I know the Iranians won't let nuclear inspectors look at their entire nuclear operations, but that's just them trying to maintain some political leverage, right? They're surely not hiding anything, and certainly wouldn't lie about their intentions. Why is Israel not trusting the Iranians? An attempt to destroy Israel would be unprecedented, wouldn't it? Lets see, if someone says they are going to kill you or wipe you off the face of this earth.....you ignore it? I dont think you would make it as a country very long my friend! lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five0pd310 Posted February 19, 2012 Share Posted February 19, 2012 Lets see, if someone says they are going to kill you or wipe you off the face of this earth.....you ignore it? I dont think you would make it as a country very long my friend! lol Maybe I misjudged his post, but I took it as tongue in cheek. Perhaps my sarcasm meter is of today. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Maybe I misjudged his post, but I took it as tongue in cheek. Perhaps my sarcasm meter is of today. lol As did I possibly.....lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 When Iran's stated goal is the total destruction of Israel, I don't think we, or Israel, can take the chance that Iran is not "dumb enough" to follow through with their threat. I am really surprised Israel has allowed Iran to get this far with their "peaceful" nuclear program. I have serious doubs about the gutless wonder we have in the White House providing much support for Israel before or after an attack on Iran's nuclear facilities .... and I know the RP loons with their heads in the sand wouldn't be much help either. Ok, lets say you and your neighbor had a big disagreement a week ago. Then you find out that yesterday he went to the pawn shop and purchased a gun. Do you go over there and shoot him first. Because you don't want to take a chance he might shoot you first. by the way, if you choose to do that you will be in prison. But many of you are ok with preemptive war. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Five0pd310 Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Ok, lets say you and your neighbor had a big disagreement a week ago. Then you find out that yesterday he went to the pawn shop and purchased a gun. Do you go over there and shoot him first. Because you don't want to take a chance he might shoot you first. by the way, if you choose to do that you will be in prison. But many of you are ok with preemptive war. I think a more accurate comparison would be this.... If your neighbor just said he was going to blow up your house then went to the "explosives" store and showed up at your doorstep, would you then be justified in offing him. The answer is not so clear anymore, is it? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted February 20, 2012 Share Posted February 20, 2012 Ok, lets say you and your neighbor had a big disagreement a week ago. Then you find out that yesterday he went to the pawn shop and purchased a gun. Do you go over there and shoot him first. Because you don't want to take a chance he might shoot you first. by the way, if you choose to do that you will be in prison. But many of you are ok with preemptive war. Your lame attempt to downplay and minimalize Irael's situation shows just how little you know about the history of the unprovoked attacks on Israel by their enemies. I think their situation is a little more complicated and serious than your simple little neighbor vs neighbor spat. One nuclear detonation against the tiny nation of Israel would be devastating for them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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