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2 hours ago, Sideliner said:

NO THEY DON'T! Might want to do a little research on Supreme Court precedent on the matter. It might just open your eyes.

The Supreme Court ruled WRONG on that one.....THE CONSTITUTION is very CLEAR on the matter......

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LUCKILY, DEMS NEVER HAVE 'PERSONAL, POLITICAL' MOTIVES

October 9, 2019
 
 


Today we will answer the question: May a president ask a foreign country to investigate corruption if it serves his "personal, political" interests?

The "personal, political" angle is the last gasp of the impeachment hystericsir?t=anncoulter-20&l=am2&o=1&a=052554007. (I'm looking at you, Sens. Rob Portman (Ohio), Susan Collins (Maine), Mitt Romney (Utah) and Ben Sasse (Nebraska).)

Yes, Donald Trump is, technically, "president," and, yes, former Vice President Joe Biden used his government position to withhold foreign aid until the president of Ukraine fired a prosecutor looking into a company paying Biden's drug addict son millions of dollars for mysterious reasons.

But, the impeachmentir?t=anncoulter-20&l=am2&o=1&a=089526360 fanatics assert, by asking a foreign leader to assist in an otherwise legitimate corruption investigation, Trump has committed a monstrous crime -- because he was pursuing a "personal political interest." To wit: Trump was trying to harm his political opponent, Joe Biden.

Apart from the blindingly obvious fact that you can't commit crimes and then escape justice simply by running for president, Democrats take official government action for "personal, political" reasons all the time. Frequently, they do so for the sole purpose of harming their political opponents.

President Barack Obama's IRS investigated and harassed conservative groups for years, using the most fearsome arm of the government to punish political enemies -- for personal, political reasons. Then his Department of Justice refused to prosecute the corrupt officials, which, I believe, was again for -- yes, it was personal, political reasons.

How about the Obama administration's endless investigations of Ferguson, Missouri, police officer Darren Wilson? As was obvious from the outset, Officer Wilson had done absolutely nothing wrong when he fatally shot Mike Brown -- something even Obama's corrupt, subpoena-defying attorney general, Eric Holder, had to concede after reviewing all the evidence.

Those massive Department of Justice investigations were undertaken to gin up the Democratic base in order to help Hillary, who proceeded to honor Mike Brown's mother on stage at the Democratic National Convention.

In the most perfect example of a president demanding investigations for no other purpose than serving a "personal, political" interest, in 1999, when Hillary was gearing up to run for the Senate from New York against Mayor Rudy Giuliani, President Bill Clinton (her husband) launched investigation after investigation into the crown jewel of the Giuliani administrationir?t=anncoulter-20&l=am2&o=1&a=159184656, the NYPD.

If President Clinton had actually cared about police brutality, there were dozens of police forces that should have been probed before he'd ever get to New York.

Such as, for example, the city Bill and Hillary lived in.

In 1999, as the NYPD was virtually eliminating crime in New York City, there were a grand total of 11 fatal shootings by police officers. That's 0.28 fatal shootings for every 1,000 officers.

In Washington, D.C., that year, there were four times as many fatal police shootings -- 1.14 per 1,000 cops. In Houston, the number was 1.68. In San Diego, it was 4.36.

In the end, Giuliani withdrew from the race to treat his prostate cancer, but when President Clinton was demanding these investigations, Rudy was crushing Hillary both in the polls and in political contributions.

Speaking of whom, Hillary used her position as secretary of state to overthrow Libyan strongman Muammar Qaddafi, leading to the murder of a U.S. ambassador and several other Americans in Benghazi, as well as creating the refugee crisis currently engulfing Western Europe -- all for her own personal, political reasons.

As was dramatically revealed in Hillary's email exchanges with her unofficial adviser, Sidney Blumenthal, her motive for deposing Qaddafi was to display her foreign policy chops, apart from that lunkhead Obama, who was, as Blumenthal sneered, "intent on seizing defeat from the jaws of victory."

Blumenthal egged on Hillary to keep the pressure on Qaddafi, promising her a major political win. When Qaddafi was ousted, Blumenthal exulted: "First, brava! You must go on camera. You must establish yourself in the historical record at this moment. ... You are vindicated."

Soon thereafter, Qaddafi was beaten to death in the desert by rebels who posted graphic video of the murder online. Cackling with delight at the initial reports, Hillary positioned herself alongside Julius Caesar: "We came. We saw. He died."

Most obviously, the Obama administration's entire illegal FBI surveillance of the Trump campaign was undertaken for personal, political purposes. We've been waiting for three years to hear some legitimate reason for the FBI's surveillance of the Trump campaign. At this point, I think it's fair to say, we're not getting one.

The Obama administration spent millions of dollars and millions of man-hours on a purely political investigation to hurt Trump and help elect Hillary.

As long as you mention it, the House Democrats' investigation of Trump's phone call to the Ukrainian president has been undertaken for personal political reasons, too. So was Biden's withholding of a $1 billion check from the president of Ukraine to protect his son's sleazy business deal.

We can play the "personal, political motive" game all day long!

At least when Republicans do it, the Middle East doesn't explode in jihadist fury, the crime rate doesn't skyrocket, people don't die or lose their livelihoods -- and there's real corruption being exposed.
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Released by Friday, 10/18?   I sure hope so, whatever it contains.  If this release gets confirmed, there’ll be “weeping and gnashing of teeth” in DC next week.  Btw, according to this report, it’s as thick as a telephone book, so there’ll have to be a lot of redactions since it’s primarily about the intelligence communities. 

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/maria-bartiromo-doj-inspector-general-report-due-out-friday-and-covers-more-than-just-fisa-abuse

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It's not only the IG report that needs to be released  ... Special Investigator Durham's report is even more important ... it will blow the lid off the illegal coup attempt to overthrow a duly elected president by Brennan, Comey, Clapper, Strzok, Page, McCabe and others  ....  it's going to blow this impeachment charade out of the water ...

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Little Adam Schi:poop:tt is scared to death to have an open and honest process as in past legitimate impeachment inquiries  ... They dare not let the republicans subpoena their own witnesses or allow the entire testimonies of witnesses be seen by the public or be leaked as the truth would totally exonerate President Trump .... Pelosi won't hold a legitimate vote on impeachment because she doesn't want dimocrats on record voting for this charade ....  The American people see right through this kangaroo court circus .... President Trump will be reelected by a landslide and republicans take back the House of Representatives .... Schi:poop:tt, Pelosi and fat boy NoNads will be kicked to the curb in 2020 .... 

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The war is meant to go on forever so that the Rothschild bankers and their bought and paid for whores in world governments (such as Lindsey Graham) can get richer and more powerful.........this is why they are so dead set against President Trump........I'd watch for them to try to do to him what they did to the last one to challenge them: JFK.......I hope President Trump and his protection detail are taking the proper precautions.....but who knows who is bought and paid for by the Rothschilds in his protection detail...... 

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https://www.redstate.com/bonchie/2019/10/17/george-w.-bush-suddenly-learns-talk-goes-trump-syria

From the article

 

The easiest thing in the world to do right now is criticize Donald Trump. There’s no bravery in that. It’d have been much more impressive had they been willing to withstand the onslaught that would come by criticizing Obama when Republicans needed their voices.

Further, the topic in question is something Bush should sit out for the rest of his life. His track record on the Middle East simply does not lend him the credibly to speak on the issue any longer. It’d be like Donald Trump criticizing someone for having an affair. It just doesn’t make sense.

I’ll end by nothing that when the Obama administration propagated a civil war that led to 500,000 dead people, Bush didn’t speak up. When Ben Rhodes helped orchestrate the disastrous Arab Spring, Bush had nothing to say. When ISIS formed in the rubble of it all, Bush had more pictures to paint. But now, all of the sudden, he finds his voice to go after a fellow Republicans president? Really odd how that works.

 

 

 

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12 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

Wild, are you just made at Dubya for being friends with Ellen and Michelle Obama? You seem like you didn't vote for him twice, with such a hostile post. 

I am mad at his hypocrisy Ellen and Michelle has nothing to do with this article  

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FBI, CIA Fear Criminal Prosecutions Over Durham’s Spygate Probe

October 22, 2019

 

Hans von Spakovsky, a Heritage Foundation senior legal fellow, has commented on the fact that the intelligence community is now living in fear. And no wonder. For the first time, a serious investigation is going on, and US Attorney John Durham has interviewed over 140 witnesses and has called John Brennan and James Clapper to give testimony. Investigators usually send for the big guns as they are finishing up their investigation after they have gathered all the pertinent information on what crimes were committed and by whom. It is believed that both intentionally conducted illegal spying operations.

Employees of intelligence agencies may be “very scared and very worried” of U.S. Attorney John Durham’s investigation of the origins of the Obama administration’s surveillance of Donald Trump’s presidential campaign in 2015 and beyond, speculated Hans von Spakovsky, a Heritage Foundation senior legal fellow, in a Monday interview on SiriusXM’s Breitbart News Tonight with host Rebecca Mansour and special guest host David Ngo.

Under James Comey’s former directorship of the FBI, the federal government surveilled Trump’s political associates as early as 2015, ostensibly as a “counterintelligence” operation on alleged Russian “interference” in 2016’s presidential election.

Von Spakovsky said, “If these CIA analysts were providing false information or false and fraudulent assessments in order to get a counterintelligence operation started against the president, then boy, they’d better get lawyers, because they not only engaged in an abuse of their authority, but they probably broke federal law in what they were doing.”

“We know there’s a problem in the intelligence agencies,” said von Spakovsky of political and partisan functionaries within the intelligence agencies. “All you have to do is look at the ridiculous whistleblower complaint filed by the non-whistleblower against the president in a phone call in the Ukraine to understand that there is a lot of bias inside of our intelligence agencies, which does not give one a great deal of confidence in the accuracy and credibility of the work they’re supposed to be doing, which is analyzing the national security threats to the United States.”

“The inspector general only has the power to report on any wrongdoing, fraud, [or] abuse that he finds,” von Spakovsky stated. “An inspector general can make a recommendation at the end of the report [that] the Justice Department prosecute someone, but he has no power to do it.

John Durham, on the other hand, as a U.S. attorney, can also issue a report just like the IG did, but if he finds criminal wrongdoing, he can impanel a grand jury and criminally prosecute anyone that he believes may have broken the law.”

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1 hour ago, Wild74 said:

Then prosecute their sorry anti-American rumps to the full extent of the law if they did wrong and I believe they did a lot wrong

That's the understatement of the year ... the Soetoro administration was the most corrupt administration in history.  Barry weaponized the IRS, FBI, CIA and NSA and used them for purely political reasons ... From Lois Learner, Holder, Comey, Lynch, Yates, Clapper, Brennan and dozens more underlings, they corruped practically every government agency in Washington and they were used for partisan political purposes to try and destroy their opponents ... a LOT of libtard heads should roll before this is over with ..... 

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5 hours ago, KirtFalcon said:

 he can impanel a grand jury and criminally prosecute anyone that he believes may have broken the law.”

The question that real inquiring minds want the answer to is:  Has he?  Or will he?  I remain skeptical.

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5 minutes ago, DAWG91 said:

The question that real inquiring minds want the answer to is:  Has he?  Or will he?  I remain skeptical.

I don't think there is any question that he has found criminal activity by multiple people, the only real question at this point is how up the food chain Durham and Barr are willing to go to prosecute people ....

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1 hour ago, KirtFalcon said:

I don't think there is any question that he has found criminal activity by multiple people, the only real question at this point is how up the food chain Durham and Barr are willing to go to prosecute people ....

The way I worded it was a bit confusing.  I was referring to whether or not he has called a grand jury or not.

And in the interest of fairness, how far up the food chain?  All the damn way!  That's what Ds are gunning for!  They've been out to run this man out of town since he won 2016.

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5 hours ago, KirtFalcon said:

That's the understatement of the year ... the Soetoro administration was the most corrupt administration in history.  Barry weaponized the IRS, FBI, CIA and NSA and used them for purely political reasons ... From Lois Learner, Holder, Comey, Lynch, Yates, Clapper, Brennan and dozens more underlings, they corruped practically every government agency in Washington and they were used for partisan political purposes to try and destroy their opponents ... a LOT of libtard heads should roll before this is over with ..... 

Barry Soetoro ain’t smart enough to pull off something that complicated; He had help from the Hildabeast .

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This has some good implications.  Durham was investigating, but had little power.  Now he can subpoena witnesses and convene a grand jury.   I’m willing to bet there are going to be some casualties before this is over.  Some real trials, and a good chance of jail time.  It it’s as bad as I think, I durn sure hope so.

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Since much of the corrupt lying lame stream media willingly participated in this treasonous coup to take down a duly elected president, they will be reluctant to cover the biggest political scandal in our nation's history  ....  but eventually they will be forced to do so by public outrage  ...  the public will only stand for so much phony reporting ...

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  • Mr. P changed the title to 🕵️ The Deep State coup to overthrow Trump

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