👎 Thanks Obama!

[Guest bleeds]

My guy's teflon. He'll rebound. But he's gonna have to say something about this pretty quick.

 

BTW, people hate their pastors all the time. Especially old women.

 

 

Not pastors they've written a book about heaping said pastor with accolades.

 

 

Tick, tick, tick...

[RufusJones]

The kingdom is beginning to crumble.

 

Yep! A chink in the armor of Obamalot. :whome:

[Bobama]

Well you know what I think about churches anyway...

[Guest bleeds]

Well you know what I think about churches anyway...

 

 

Yeah, probably the same thing I think of Congress.

[RufusJones]

My guy's teflon. He'll rebound. But he's gonna have to say something about this pretty quick.

 

 

What if he doesn't say anything or to your satisfaction. Will you still have the Obamalove? I think his teflon coating is starting to peel.

[Bobama]

If there's one thing we know about him, he can talk his way out of a bear trap. I'm sure he'll get this fixed.

[Straw]

If there's one thing we know about him, he can talk his way out of a bear trap. I'm sure he'll get this fixed.

 

Much like a snake oil salesman!

 

[Bobama]

Much like a snake oil salesman!

 

it's good for the joints.

 

 

[RufusJones]

If there's one thing we know about him, he can talk his way out of a bear trap. I'm sure he'll get this fixed.

 

It's not that he talks his way out of it..the media has ignored the bear traps in the past. Sinse he may actually have to confront his demons, this time it may be more difficult.

[UTBasketball00]

http://elections.foxnews.com/2008/03/14/ob...ept-11-attacks/

 

 

Barack Obama’s longtime pastor once questioned America’s role in the spread of the AIDS virus and suggested that the United States bore some responsibility for the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

 

Confronted with the content of some of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright Jr.’s sermons, parts of which have been aired this week on FOX News, the Obama campaign continues to pull away from the pastor’s rhetoric, but is stopping short of a full repudiation.

 

Wright has retired as leader of Trinity United Church in Chicago; he delivered his last sermon there in February. Obama has attended the church for 20 years and calls Wright his spiritual adviser.

 

Wright’s supporters say his Afro-centric sermons accurately portray black America and contend his sermons are widely studied by theologians. But critics are now calling attention to some of his words from the pulpit.

 

In DVD copies of his sermons available for purchase, Wright can be seen questioning America’s role in the spreading of the HIV virus that leads to AIDS. In another speech, made in the days after 9/11, he suggested that American foreign policy invited the terror attacks.

 

“We bombed Hiroshima. We bombed Nagasaki. And we nuked far more than the thousands in New York and the Pentagon and we never batted an eye,” Wright said.

 

“We have supported state terrorism against the Palestinians and black South Africans, and now we are indignant because of stuff we have done overseas is now brought back into our own backyard. America is chickens coming home to roost.”

 

The pastor also said: “The government lied about inventing the HIV virus as a means of genocide against people of color. The government lied.”

 

Late Thursday, the Obama campaign said it has distanced itself from certain comments made by the pastor. But it did not fully repudiate Wright himself — as some critics have called for.

 

“Senator Obama has said before that he profoundly disagrees with some of the statements and positions of Reverend Wright, who has preached his last sermon as pastor at the church,” Obama campaign spokesman Bill Burton said. “Senator Obama deplores divisive statements whether they come from his supporters, the supporters of his opponent, talk radio, or anywhere else.”

 

Last year, Obama rescinded an invitation to Wright to deliver the invocation at his presidential announcement. He also issued a statement saying personal attacks have no place in politics after Wright delivered an attack on Hillary Clinton and former President Bill Clinton.

 

But Obama’s longtime relationship with Wright is continuing to spark controversy.

 

“This is not just someone that Barack Obama has a casual relationship with,” said Tom Bevan, executive editor of RealClearPolitics.com. He noted that Wright married Barack and Michelle Obama, and Wright’s words were the inspiration for the title of Obama’s book, “The Audacity of Hope.”

 

“Barack Obama has not out and out distanced himself from all of these comments … ,” said Patricia Murphy, editor of CitizenJanePolitics.com. “It’s unclear if he rejects all of these statements. I would assume that he does, but I think he is going to be pushed where he needs to come out and fully explain his relationship with his pastor.”

 

Some of Wright’s statements have raised eyebrows at a time the Internal Revenue Service is scrutinizing tax-exempt religious organizations for alleged violations of rules barring them from participating in political campaigns.

 

Prior to his retirement last month, Wright delivered commentary from the pulpit in which he praised Obama, as well as remarks focusing on the racial divide between Obama and Clinton.

 

“There is a man here who can take this country in a new direction,” Wright said during his Jan. 13 sermon.

 

During a Christmas sermon, Wright tried to compare Obama’s upbringing to Jesus at the hands of the Romans.

 

“Barack knows what it means living in a country and a culture that is controlled by rich white people,” Wright said. “Hillary would never know that.

 

“Hillary ain’t never been called a ###. Hillary has never had a people defined as a non-person.”

 

In a Jan. 13 sermon, Wright said:

 

“Hillary is married to Bill, and Bill has been good to us. No he ain’t! Bill did us, just like he did Monica Lewinsky. He was riding dirty.”

 

So far the Clinton campaign has been quiet over Wright’s comments.

 

Wright has declined interview requests from FOX News.

 

FOX News’ Jeff Goldblatt contributed to this report.

[Buckeye1980]

I still want some one to tell me why it is African-Americans....ihave an aunt who was born and raised in Australia , she does not refer to herself as an Australian-American. My heratige is from England , am I an English American.....NO! I am an American who live in the United States of America......not what the "minister" refered to our country as

[bigdawg16]

Good luck with that one buckeye

[RufusJones]

I still want some one to tell me why it is African-Americans....ihave an aunt who was born and raised in Australia , she does not refer to herself as an Australian-American. My heratige is from England , am I an English American.....NO! I am an American who live in the United States of America......not what the "minister" refered to our country as

 

I've always wondered the same thing. I'm English, Irish, and Native American.. Mutt for short. Can the white people from South Africa refer to themselves as African American?

[UTBasketball00]

I've always wondered the same thing. I'm English, Irish, and Native American.. Mutt for short. Can the white people from South Africa refer to themselves as African American?

I knew a guy from south africa who referred to himself as a white african-american

[applebutter]

My guy's teflon. He'll rebound. But he's gonna have to say something about this pretty quick.

 

BTW, people hate their pastors all the time. Especially old women.

Your guy is not teflon. The media's been spraying him with Pam, but the can's almost empty.

 

You are a surprise a minute. I've never even met an old woman pastor.

[RufusJones]

Your guy is not teflon. The media's been spraying him with Pam, but the can's almost empty.

 

You are a surprise a minute. I've never even met an old woman pastor.

 

 

Yea applebutter!! Hilarious! :happy65:

[Guest bleeds]

For the sake of bandwidth (nod to cheapy), I am not including the text of these stories, but please read them. They are both about BHO. One is from October of '07, the other from March '08. Both involve contraversial pastor Rev. Jeremiah Wright.

 

 

As Obama Talks Religion, Questions Surround His Controversial Pastor

October 8, 2007

 

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,300135,00.html

 

 

Controversial minister leaves Obama campaign

March 14, 2008

 

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23634881/

 

 

 

[BluePirate]

Well you know what I think about churches anyway...

 

You'll change your mind soon enough... :thumbsup:

[BluePirate]

I still want some one to tell me why it is African-Americans.... My heratige is from England , am I an English American.....NO! I am an American who live in the United States of America......not what the "minister" refered to our country as

 

Exactly. How does someone call home, a place they have never been?

[cubs37]

I agree that it's curious that he would not leave a church when things like this were being said. Maybe he wasn't there during those sermons. We don't know. Until he comes out himself to put distance from it, not keep giving statements, I don't think it's going away even though the media is not really covering it.

[BlueMan]

I put European-American in the race blank.

[RufusJones]

I agree that it's curious that he would not leave a church when things like this were being said. Maybe he wasn't there during those sermons. We don't know. Until he comes out himself to put distance from it, not keep giving statements, I don't think it's going away even though the media is not really covering it.

 

 

Obama was interviewed last night on Fox News. He basically said he disagreed with Rev. Wright. And had he heard him say those type of things, he would have told him. He also said, he would have left the Church if that type of rhetoric was the over riding theme, which he didn't think it was. To me this says something about Obama. He thinks we are ignorant. He never heard Rev. wright speak like this..ever? Bull! How could you not know your Pastor was a racist? Also to Obama it's OK to trash the USA every once in a while, just not every Sunday. Oh and only the Sundays he was absent. He is trying to be as slick as Willy.. " I am not here. Isn't here, just there without the T"

[Rhino2K]

He says it because he can and he's just an angry, unrational person.

 

You've got that right!! :thumbsup:

 

This guy is an activist pushing his hidden agendas in the name of God.

[Guest bleeds]

Obama was interviewed last night on Fox News. He basically said he disagreed with Rev. Wright. And had he heard him say those type of things, he would have told him. He also said, he would have left the Church if that type of rhetoric was the over riding theme, which he didn't think it was. To me this says something about Obama. He thinks we are ignorant. He never heard Rev. wright speak like this..ever? Bull! How could you not know your Pastor was a racist? Also to Obama it's OK to trash the USA every once in a while, just not every Sunday. Oh and only the Sundays he was absent. He is trying to be as slick as Willy.. " I am not here. Isn't here, just there without the T"

 

 

You don't go to a church for 20 years and not know your pastor feels this way, especially a pastor held in such high esteem as Wright is by Obama.

 

Obama's words and actions don't add up. If I was not present at a sermon where hate speech like this was being spewed and I found out about it, I would go to my pastor and ask, or I would get a tape (almost all pastors tape their messages now). If I found out it was true, I would leave the church immediately. Obams did none of these things.

[Guest CNOrtega]

I'm sure your respective pastors have never said anything you didn't agree with.

 

We're talking about something that happens maybe 1% of the time out of his sermons. Furthermore, the man is now retired, meaning he's not preaching to anyone anymore and has absolutely nothing to do with the Obama campaign and will have nothing to do with the Obama Administration. What he said was inappropriate and in extremely bad taste, but he is entitled to his thoughts and his words by the Constitution and by God. As an American and as a white person, I forgive and forget. Forgive us our trespasses, as we forgive those who trespass against us. I've heard that somewhere before.