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Right there... Do you disavow your church when you eat cheeseburgers on Friday?

 

Too bad America was founded by Puritans. If you brought religion into a political debate in Britain they would think you were crazy. Which you are. Definitely.

 

Bleeds disavowed the church that prohibited cheeseburgers on Fridays a long time ago. As a good Baptist, he has a dispensation from Billy Graham to order double meat/double cheese on/at Fridays (with jalapenos).

 

 

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Right there... Do you disavow your church when you eat cheeseburgers on Friday?

 

Too bad America was founded by Puritans. If you brought religion into a political debate in Britain they would think you were crazy. Which you are. Definitely.

 

 

Cheeseburgers on Fridays??????????????????????????

 

So now you have dissolved into calling me names. How adult. Keep it up and you'll be reading this from the other side of a suspension.

 

While you and I don't agree politically, I don't resort to calling you names when my arguement is failing miserably, like you just did. If you want to continue to debate this topic like adults, you will need to act like one.

 

Bleeds disavowed the church that prohibited cheeseburgers on Fridays a long time ago. As a good Baptist, he has a dispensation from Billy Graham to order double meat/double cheese on/at Fridays (with jalapenos).

 

 

Stop it. Dieting.

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Cheeseburgers on Fridays??????????????????????????

 

So now you have dissolved into calling me names. How adult. Keep it up and you'll be reading this from the other side of a suspension.

 

While you and I don't agree politically, I don't resort to calling you names when my arguement is failing miserably, like you just did. If you want to continue to debate this topic like adults, you will need to act like one.

 

 

 

 

Stop it. Dieting.

 

Crazy isn't a name it's a state of mind.

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Crazy isn't a name it's a state of mind.

 

 

The moderator side of me is showing great patience in this situation, but that patience is wearing thin. I am now requesting you elevate the content of your posts.

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Hillary would be bad, but Osama....I mean Oboma would be horriable.............man of all the candidates on either side he is the last one I would vote for. The most liberal senator in decades.

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An article that I received from a friend. Some more information on Obama's infamous church and it's ties!

 

 

Newsmax.com

Washington Insider with Ronald Kessler RSS

 

Obama Silent on Farrakhan Support

 

 

Thursday, January 17, 2008 9:37 AM

 

By: Ronald Kessler

 

 

Barack’s Obama’s silence on his longtime minister and mentor’s support of Louis Farrakhan speaks volumes.

 

Obama’s minister, the Rev. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr., was quoted in the November/December issue of his church’s magazine, Trumpet, heaping praise on Farrakhan.

 

“When Minister Farrakhan speaks, Black America listens,” Wright said in the article. “His depth on analysis [sic] when it comes to the racial ills of this nation is astounding and eye-opening. He brings a perspective that is helpful and honest.”

 

Wright’s comments ran in a video, which was played when Trumpet bestowed the "Rev. Dr. Jeremiah A. Wright Jr. Lifetime Achievement Trumpeteer award" on Farrakhan.

 

But in a statement issued this week, supposedly to address the issue, Obama ignored the point that his minister and friend had spoken adoringly of Farrakhan and that Wright’s church was behind the award to the Nation of Islam leader.

 

Instead, Obama adroitly said, “I decry racism and anti-Semitism in every form and strongly condemn the anti-Semitic statements made by Minister Farrakhan. I assume that Trumpet magazine made its own decision to honor Farrakhan based on his efforts to rehabilitate ex-offenders, but it is not a decision with which I agree.”

 

In his comment, Obama not only side-stepped the main point of the controversy, he disingenuously claimed he thought the magazine bestowed the award on Farrakhan for his efforts to rehabilitate ex-prisoners and that the decision was the magazine’s and had nothing to do with Wright and his church. Not only is Trumpet owned and produced by Wright’s church out of the church’s offices, Wright’s daughters serve as publisher and executive editor of the magazine.

 

Neither Wright’s encomiums about Farrakhan nor the Trumpet article mentions ex-prisoners. Instead, they refer to Farrakhan as an “icon” who “truly epitomize greatness.”

 

Wright’s comments and the award to Farrakhan were first reported in a Jan. 14 Newsmax article, “Obama Minister Honored Farrakhan.” The following day, Richard Cohen of the Washington Post took Obama to task over his connection to Wright.

 

Hailing his “integrity and honesty,” Wright lauded Farrakhan in the Trumpet article as one of the giants of the African-American religious experience in the 20th and 21st century.

 

“His love for Africa and African-American people has made him an unforgettable force, a catalyst for change, and a religious leader who is sincere about his faith and his purpose,” Wright said.

 

Is it fair to connect Obama with his minister’s comments and actions? Absolutely.

 

If your minister, priest, or rabbi spoke glowingly of Farrakhan and gave him an award, would you continue to attend that house of worship or have anything to do with its leader?

 

Not only is Wright Obama’s minister, Wright is Obama's self-described friend and sounding board. Obama has said he found religion through Wright in the 1980s and consulted him before deciding to run for president. The title of Obama’s best-seller “The Audacity of Hope” comes from one of Wright’s sermons. Wright is one of the first people Obama thanked after his election to the Senate in 2004.

 

Obama prayed privately with Wright before announcing his candidacy last year.

 

Wright has long been a supporter of Farrakhan, whom he helped organize the Million Man March in Washington in 1995. Farrakhan has repeatedly targeted Jews, whites, America, and homosexuals with hate-filled statements.

 

He has called whites “blue-eyed devils” and the “anti-Christ.” He has described Jews as “bloodsuckers” who control the government, the media and some black organizations.

 

As noted in the Jan. 14 Newsmax article, in sermons and interviews, Dr. Wright has equated Zionism with racism and has compared Israel with South Africa under its previous policy of apartheid. On the Sunday following 9/11, Wright characterized the terrorist attacks as a consequence of violent American policies.

 

Four years later, Wright suggested that the attacks were retribution for America’s racism.

 

“In the 21st century, white America got a wake-up call after 9/11/01,” Wright wrote in Trumpet. “White America and the western world came to realize that people of color had not gone away, faded into the woodwork or just ‘disappeared’ as the Great White West kept on its merry way of ignoring black concerns.”

 

In one of his sermons, Wright said to thumping applause, “Racism is how this country was founded and how this country is still run! . . . We [in the U.S.] believe in white supremacy and black inferiority and believe it more than we believe in God.”

 

As for Israel, “The Israelis have illegally occupied Palestinian territories for over 40 years now,” Wright has said. “Divestment has now hit the table again as a strategy to wake the business community and wake up Americans concerning the injustice and the racism under which the Palestinians have lived because of Zionism.”

 

Instead of remaining silent, Obama should be denouncing Wright for supporting and honoring Farrakhan. Abraham Foxman, the national director of the Anti-Defamation League, suggested as much when he told the Jewish Week that Obama should confront Wright, whom he described as someone who “embraces, awards, and celebrates a black racist.” If Obama is unable to change Wright’s stand, he should leave the church, Foxman said.

 

Obama’s failure to do so and his close relationship with Wright for more than two decades suggest that he not only condones much of what Wright says, he agrees with it.

 

Ronald Kessler is chief Washington correspondent of Newsmax.com. View his previous reports and get his dispatches sent to you free via e-mail.

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So why are you all so scared of him now, and not "Shrillary"?

 

The continual "B. Hussein Obama" thing is petty, shallow and xenophobic, by the way. The man is an American, black, white, or green... no?

 

I'm not a racist, never have been, never will be.

 

I have never believed in certain principles and doctrines that the Democratic Party have brought to the table. I don't believe in "Free Rides". I don't believe in a government that places the "chains of bondage" on it's citizens. I realize that there are laws that should stop monopolies, oligarchries, and theorcracies. I don't worry about people's color or religious beliefs, when it comes to lawmakers. I want to know how they are going to help this Great Nation, that we live in.

 

I can't vote for Barack Obama or Hillary Clinton, because of what they want to destroy: Every Liberty, Freedom, as Medman has pointed out that is being removed.

 

This great Nation was built on Freedom, Justice, and Liberty. Why am I not seeing that much anymore ? I see more government intrusion in the lives of everyday people, and a dependance not Independance of the people of the United States. I see people "taking advantage of the system". Why should their be a "system", if it should be an "equal playing ground" ?

 

 

 

 

 

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Too bad America was founded by Puritans.

 

Too bad you are wrong yet again. America was founded by people trying to GET AWAY from the Puritans. Our founding fathers were so dead set against them that they included a reference to state controlled religion in the FIRST amendment. The Constitution is a fascinating read. You should read it. Obviously you haven't yet.

 

Keep plugging away. One of these days you just may be right about something.

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Osama......Obama's church is a front (okay maybe, could be) to try and hide his Islamic faith and alliances.

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Osama......Obama's church is a front (okay maybe, could be) to try and hide his Islamic faith and alliances.

 

If Obama gets elected the terrorists win!

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If Obama gets elected the terrorists win!

 

I would'nt say they would win but you know that Obama would be their choice if they were to vote. That cant be a good thing.

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I would'nt say they would win but you know that Obama would be their choice if they were to vote. That cant be a good thing.

 

I doubt the terrorists even follow U.S. politics, really.

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I doubt the terrorists even follow U.S. politics, really.

 

In the words of Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket:

 

"Clean out your headgear new guy."

 

If you think terrorists don't keep up with American politics, you might want to reread the account of the Iranian terrorists who released the American hostages the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated.

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In the words of Animal Mother in Full Metal Jacket:

 

"Clean out your headgear new guy."

 

If you think terrorists don't keep up with American politics, you might want to reread the account of the Iranian terrorists who released the American hostages the day Ronald Reagan was inaugurated.

 

Well you may have a point there about the hostages... Anyway, it's not like any candidates policies line up with the 'terrorist agenda' or anything. Nobody's proposing massive goat-farm subsidies or three-day waiting periods for suicide bomb vests.

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I doubt the terrorists even follow U.S. politics, really.

 

I think they follow it all too closely waiting and looking for the first opportunity to take advantage of it!

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Nobody's proposing massive goat-farm subsidies or three-day waiting periods for suicide bomb vests.

 

Maybe not, but the concern is due to his devotion to Africa and possible ties to Islam he might (I said might) be soft on Islamic fundamentalists.

 

No, I think terrorists are watching our elections with baited breath.

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Maybe not, but the concern is due to his devotion to Africa and possible ties to Islam he might (I said might) be soft on Islamic fundamentalists.

 

No, I think terrorists are watching our elections with baited breath.

 

Well, last I checked he was a Christian, and there are, in fact, a whole bunch of Christians in Africa.

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Well, last I checked he was a Christian, and there are, in fact, a whole bunch of Christians in Africa.

 

 

Christians in Africa pale in comparison to Muslims, in terms of numbers. But you should know, his devotion to Africa has nothing to do with the Christians there. It is a form of nationalism (although Africa is a continent).

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Africa is one of the main Christian Missionary fronts because there are so few Christian's on that continent vs. Muslims.

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Christians in Africa pale in comparison to Muslims, in terms of numbers. But you should know, his devotion to Africa has nothing to do with the Christians there. It is a form of nationalism (although Africa is a continent).

 

Continentism...

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Anyway, it's not like any candidates policies line up with the 'terrorist agenda' or anything. Nobody's proposing massive goat-farm subsidies or three-day waiting periods for suicide bomb vests.

 

From Obama's website:

Bringing Our Troops Home

Obama will immediately begin to remove our troops from Iraq. He will remove one to two combat brigades each month, and have all of our combat brigades out of Iraq within 16 months. Obama will make it clear that we will not build any permanent bases in Iraq.

 

This doesn't line up with the terrorists agenda?

 

 

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It's lock step.

 

More like a ramp with a run away wheel chair! :whome:

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