Guest bleeds Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 If Obama wins the nomination, I wonder if some Hillary supporters will vote for McCain? She likes McCain and he is more towards the center. Good question. It would almost have to come on the heels of a suggestion to that effect from Hillary. Don't know if she'd go against the party like that or not. Pretty sure she would not. I would bet she would consider the veep nod in order to get into the line of succession. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Good question. It would almost have to come on the heels of a suggestion to that effect from Hillary. Don't know if she'd go against the party like that or not. Pretty sure she would not. I would bet she would consider the veep nod in order to get into the line of succession. If she is the VP, Obama better watch his back! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bleeds Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 If she is the VP, Obama better watch his back! No doubt. So what does he do? He knows how she is, but he also knows the political clout she pulls. He has to know to have her on the ticket is a free pass into the White House. But at what price? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
68Hornet Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Are we really going to elect a man what doesn't honor our pledge of allegiance or our national anthem? Is Christianity really on its way out? Vote Obama and we'll find out. I'll admit I don't know this man, or everything about him, but this is a scary proposition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stSuperScot Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 MILWAUKEE -- So what did Michelle Obama think of the United States before her husband decided he wanted to run the place? “For the first time in my adult life, I am proud of my country,” she told a Milwaukee crowd today, “because it feels like hope is making a comeback.” http://www.boston.com/news/politics/politi..._in_the_na.html At least it won't be boring if Obama wins. The cynical among us will have a field day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePirate Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Obama is a smoker. How long has it been since we last had a smoker President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bleeds Posted February 18, 2008 Share Posted February 18, 2008 Obama is a smoker. How long has it been since we last had a smoker President? With today's health-conscious crowd, you have to wonder why that has been so hush-hush. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
1stSuperScot Posted February 18, 2008 Author Share Posted February 18, 2008 Obama is a smoker. How long has it been since we last had a smoker President? Cigarettes or crack? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPTTIGER Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 If she is the VP, Obama better watch his back! how can I put this......if she is the VP, and Bill is in DC then Obama better watch his WIFE! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BluePirate Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Cigarettes or crack? Cigarettes. Have we had a crack smoking President? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medman7 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I heard an Obama ad on the radio today. Allow me to paraphrase: "If you have been successful at the game of life, too bad. We need to give a do over to people who haven't figured it out and you winners are going to have to bear the cost. "You stupid people who couldn't figure out that you have to pay that mortgage back...every month...you deserve a break from those mean old lenders who took a gamble on you. "I'm Barack Obama, not only did I approve this ad, but I am a political superman who will fix whatever ails you...for free." :thumbdown: I heard one of his ads similar to this and basically took it the same way. It ------me off something royally. I am one of those who busted my butt to get to where I am which is barely middle class. I had a financial aide advisor tell me that I made too much for a grant when I made $9000.00 per year because I was a single white male and could go out and get a better job. I told her that was the problem. I am trying to go to college so I can get a better job. I scraped by borrowing from Peter to pay Paul get get my education. These people that he wants to level the playing field for have tremendously more and better opportunities to get better education than I ever thought about. They can even get thier education for free if many of them would stop misappropriating their grant money. This is a sore subject with me and he needs to back off that one for sure. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CAPTTIGER Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Cigarettes. Have we had a crack smoking President? LBJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Medman7 Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I kinda liked this one. untitled.bmp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest bleeds Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Just heard an man-on-street interview in the Fox News on xm. The interviewer asked a guy who he was supporting. Guy said Obama all the way. Interviewer asked him why. He said he liked Obama's charisma. He acknowledged that Hillary had more experience, but still preferred Obama's charisma. Now, I think both of these candidates are bad for our country. But personalities aside, why would anyone choose charisma over experience? This goes to what I've said all along; People are sold on Obama's fluff, as he has no substance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobama Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 This goes to what I've said all along; People are sold on Obama's fluff, as he has no substance. Yea, well... get used to it. If he beats Hillary he'll definitely beat McCain. I think you know that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebutter Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Yea, well... get used to it. If he beats Hillary he'll definitely beat McCain. I think you know that. I guess we're done with Hillary's coronation, and now we have to coronate Chauncy Gardner? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobama Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 I guess we're done with Hillary's coronation, and now we have to coronate Chauncy Gardner? Who's that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobama Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 And some of you wonder why Fox News is considered rubbish journalism? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebutter Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Who's that? Chauncy Gardner is the main character in the 1979 Peter Sellers movie; Being There. In the beginning of the story he's called Chance the gardner. From IMDB.com: Chance, a simple gardener, has never left the estate until his employer dies. His simple TV-informed utterances are mistaken for profundity. Pretty good likeness of BHO, don't you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 And some of you wonder why Fox News is considered rubbish journalism? Is that not a legitimate question? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobama Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Is that not a legitimate question? Come on now... you serious? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chase.colston Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Presidential Tobacco Preferences: George Washington 1789-1797 unknown John Adams 1797-1801 cigar Thomas Jefferson 1801-1809 unknown James Madison 1809-1817 cigar James Monroe 1817-1825 unknown John Quincy Adams 1825-1829 cigar Andrew Jackson 1829-1837 cigar Martin Van Buren 1837-1841 pipe William Henry Harrison 1841 pipe John Tyler 1841-1845 cigar James Polk 1845-1849 none Zachary Taylor 1849-1850 cigar Millard Fillmore 1850-1853 none Franklin Pierce 1853-1857 unknown James Buchanan 1857-1861 unknown Abraham Lincoln 1861-1865 unknown Andrew Johnson 1865-1869 cigar Ulysses S. Grant 1869-1877 cigar Rutherford B. Hayes 1877-1881 unknown Chester A. Arthur 1881-1885 cigar Grover Cleveland 1885-1889 chewing tobacco Benjamin Harrison 1889-1893 cigar Grover Cleveland 1893-1897 chewing tobacco William McKinley 1897-1901 cigar Theodore Roosevelt 1901-1909 none Woodrow Wilson 1913-1921 none Warren G. Harding 1921-1923 cigar Calvin Coolidge 1923-1929 cigar Herbert Hoover 1929-1933 cigar Franklin D. Roosevelt 1933-1945 cigarette Harry S. Truman 1945-1953 none Dwight Eisenhower 1953-1961 cigarette John F. Kennedy 1961-1963 cigar Lyndon Johnson 1963-1969 cigar Richard Nixon 1969-1974 cigar Gerald Ford 1974-1977 pipe Jimmy Carter 1977-1981 none Ronald Reagan 1981-1989 none George Bush 1989-1993 none Bill Clinton 1993-1999 cigar Link: http://www.winespectator.com/Cigar/CA_Arch...322,817,00.html So, 24 presidents used tobacco in some fashion. George Washington grew tobacco, but it isn't know whether he smoked it or not. And one of the most celebrated presidents in history, Franklin D. Roosevelt, smoked cigarettes (religiously). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
applebutter Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Presidential Tobacco Preferences: But, how many of these ran for office since the media, and now even local governments, have put so very much effort into demonizing smokers? Would you let a politician, even one who says nothing so beautifully, exhale his second hand smoke around your children? :sick: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Come on now... you serious? Is it a lie? If not, what is your beef. Where were you when Bush was being hammered last election? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bobama Posted February 19, 2008 Share Posted February 19, 2008 Is it a lie? If not, what is your beef. Where were you when Bush was being hammered last election? Bush was being hammered for snorting coke, being placed in the TANG when they supposedly weren't allowing anyone in, and getting a DWI. Not smoking legal cigarettes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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