Jets Posted October 24, 2018 Author Share Posted October 24, 2018 20 hours ago, Matt said: LOL, Jets! Yes, I do!! I never have a problem discussing Jacksonville football Is Mccuin playing this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 24, 2018 Share Posted October 24, 2018 I honestly don’t know who to pick in this game. Hallsville had flashes of brilliance offensively. But mostly against our bench. They didn’t do much against the starters. They are pretty much a one trick pony. Jacksonville... I’ve seen twice. Their offense was gifted a lot of really good field position Vs Nac and really didn’t need a ton of offense to stay in that game. Then they exploded Vs PT. Their offensive ineptitude last week was a little shocking. Especially after how they performed Vs PT. Granted the rain made for miserable conditions. But I expected a much closer and copetitive game. If the PT version of Jax shows up... Indians win easy. If the Marshall version shows up... Hallsville wins. Helter skelter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted October 25, 2018 Author Share Posted October 25, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 2:30 PM, Matt said: LOL, Jets! Yes, I do!! I never have a problem discussing Jacksonville football Mccuin will play this week Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/24/2018 at 12:39 PM, Mavchamp said: I honestly don’t know who to pick in this game. Hallsville had flashes of brilliance offensively. But mostly against our bench. They didn’t do much against the starters. They are pretty much a one trick pony. Jacksonville... I’ve seen twice. Their offense was gifted a lot of really good field position Vs Nac and really didn’t need a ton of offense to stay in that game. Then they exploded Vs PT. Their offensive ineptitude last week was a little shocking. Especially after how they performed Vs PT. Granted the rain made for miserable conditions. But I expected a much closer and copetitive game. If the PT version of Jax shows up... Indians win easy. If the Marshall version shows up... Hallsville wins. Helter skelter. Marshall was the reason for a lot of that last week. Bull rushed us continually. I thought our defense played well given the field position they were put in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted October 26, 2018 Share Posted October 26, 2018 Jacksonville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted October 26, 2018 Author Share Posted October 26, 2018 On 10/23/2018 at 2:30 PM, Matt said: Will anyone be updating score on here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TXvFootball Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 Hard to believe but Jax lost to Hallsville 40 to 30! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat51993 Posted October 28, 2018 Share Posted October 28, 2018 We got beat by the same rushing play more than 90% of the time. I'm not sure how many yards qb and rb had. I bet over 300. Mccuin didn't touch the ball more than 5 times. He took one to the house. His dad was not happy at all. Matt gives us the sideline view Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted October 29, 2018 Author Share Posted October 29, 2018 15 hours ago, Cat51993 said: We got beat by the same rushing play more than 90% of the time. I'm not sure how many yards qb and rb had. I bet over 300. Mccuin didn't touch the ball more than 5 times. He took one to the house. His dad was not happy at all. Matt gives us the sideline view Pathetic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat51993 Posted October 29, 2018 Share Posted October 29, 2018 Not a football coach but if I was Mccuin would touch the 20 to 30 times a game. But he could still be tender to his last injury don't know. Coach cant tackle either for players. Put the best we had on line with not much improvement. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 3 hours ago, Cat51993 said: Not a football coach but if I was Mccuin would touch the 20 to 30 times a game. But he could still be tender to his last injury don't know. Coach cant tackle either for players. Put the best we had on line with not much improvement. In a must win game hes got to get the ball a ton. Jax should have easily made the playoffs in this district, somethings wrong in Jax. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cat51993 Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 We are a playoff team. See if the players won't it. I saw 1 player finally last week step up in the 4th at lb. Unless you're not real savvy you had to know the play. To me that is not coaching that is not having pride as a player. After 40 times you know it's coming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 9 minutes ago, Cat51993 said: We are a playoff team. See if the players won't it. I saw 1 player finally last week step up in the 4th at lb. Unless you're not real savvy you had to know the play. To me that is not coaching that is not having pride as a player. After 40 times you know it's coming. Time for a coaching change, this is Colemans 4th yr and he just isnt getting it done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 6 drops, 1 drop, wide open, would have tied it at 37, missed tackles, players in position, just not making plays. Players make plays, not coaches. Yes, I am up close as you can get, right on the field. Im not blind. But I’ve never seen a coach tackle, catch a pass, or block. That’s what beat us, not McCuin not getting the ball. He had 9 touches btw, yes, wish he would have had more. You know he plays defense the whole time, right? We aren’t WH or Marshall or Nac with 45-50 players. We play at least 7-8 players both ways for 60-65 Snaps. Hallsville had 1-2. Marshall? I didn’t see any, maybe 1. We have lost several games in the 4th quarter. We need MORE players. Any ideas on how to get more out so we don’t have 25 on the 9th grade and JV? This problem started 10 years ago and it’s getting worse. Ask Mt Pleasant. Lindale has less population than Jax — they don’t have that problem you say? Different demographic!! There, I said it, OK? Not making excuses. We should have won. Coaches can only put players in position.... and if they don’t execute, you don’t win. Bill Belechick knows that. Nick Saban knows that. A coaching change will not fix our issues. I know our issues and I really can’t discuss them here. Coleman knows what he’s doing. So do the Canady’s. You think they came from Gilmer where they won state championships and suddenly can’t coach? Really? I know y’all are frustrated. I get it. So am I. I do expect us to bring it these last two games. We made too many mistakes against Hallsville. Same ol’, same ol’ —- players don’t make plays, people blame coaches. It’s sports. It happens at all levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 13 hours ago, Matt said: 6 drops, 1 drop, wide open, would have tied it at 37, missed tackles, players in position, just not making plays. Players make plays, not coaches. Yes, I am up close as you can get, right on the field. Im not blind. But I’ve never seen a coach tackle, catch a pass, or block. That’s what beat us, not McCuin not getting the ball. He had 9 touches btw, yes, wish he would have had more. You know he plays defense the whole time, right? We aren’t WH or Marshall or Nac with 45-50 players. We play at least 7-8 players both ways for 60-65 Snaps. Hallsville had 1-2. Marshall? I didn’t see any, maybe 1. We have lost several games in the 4th quarter. We need MORE players. Any ideas on how to get more out so we don’t have 25 on the 9th grade and JV? This problem started 10 years ago and it’s getting worse. Ask Mt Pleasant. Lindale has less population than Jax — they don’t have that problem you say? Different demographic!! There, I said it, OK? Not making excuses. We should have won. Coaches can only put players in position.... and if they don’t execute, you don’t win. Bill Belechick knows that. Nick Saban knows that. A coaching change will not fix our issues. I know our issues and I really can’t discuss them here. Coleman knows what he’s doing. So do the Canady’s. You think they came from Gilmer where they won state championships and suddenly can’t coach? Really? I know y’all are frustrated. I get it. So am I. I do expect us to bring it these last two games. We made too many mistakes against Hallsville. Same ol’, same ol’ —- players don’t make plays, people blame coaches. It’s sports. It happens at all levels. Coleman was a great hire, just hasnt worked out, it happens, time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Real Mavfan Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 Just to answer the question about number of players that play both offense and defense for Marshall, really its just 1 and he only plays defense part time. Tahj Washington (#1) plays WR, KR, PR, and CB on passing downs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 I gotta be careful how I word this.... or else it's going to open a can of worms...... TBH..... Demographics are changing in most of East Texas' largest schools. Outside of the "white flight" schools...... the Hispanic population is out growing the pace of the black and white students at 5A/6A schools. Some of those demographics have really hurt some of the school's football programs. I don't think anyone would deny it's effect on Mount Pleasant. Maybe Jacksonville is suffering a similar fate thus far. But other programs have done better of inclusion of the Hispanic students into football. In spite of what some people want to believe.... Hispanic CAN and DO become good football players. It's ridiculous to think otherwise IMHO. Longview, Marshall, Lufkin, John Tyler..... have all done good jobs of making sure Hispanic participation in football is a priority. All of them have sent Hispanic students to the next level. Communities, coaches, administrations of schools.... that ignore or underserve the Hispanic populations participation in football will suffer. It's a fact. It would be wise for the pee wee, city league, junior high, etc football coaches of Jacksonville to start hustling the Hispanic athletes in their town instead of just letting them drift to soccer and baseball. It's a disservice to all to allow that to happen. JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jets Posted October 30, 2018 Author Share Posted October 30, 2018 34 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: I gotta be careful how I word this.... or else it's going to open a can of worms...... TBH..... Demographics are changing in most of East Texas' largest schools. Outside of the "white flight" schools...... the Hispanic population is out growing the pace of the black and white students at 5A/6A schools. Some of those demographics have really hurt some of the school's football programs. I don't think anyone would deny it's effect on Mount Pleasant. Maybe Jacksonville is suffering a similar fate thus far. But other programs have done better of inclusion of the Hispanic students into football. In spite of what some people want to believe.... Hispanic CAN and DO become good football players. It's ridiculous to think otherwise IMHO. Longview, Marshall, Lufkin, John Tyler..... have all done good jobs of making sure Hispanic participation in football is a priority. All of them have sent Hispanic students to the next level. Communities, coaches, administrations of schools.... that ignore or underserve the Hispanic populations participation in football will suffer. It's a fact. It would be wise for the pee wee, city league, junior high, etc football coaches of Jacksonville to start hustling the Hispanic athletes in their town instead of just letting them drift to soccer and baseball. It's a disservice to all to allow that to happen. JNHO I disagree, fact is, not many hispanics playing college ball, much less nfl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jets said: I disagree, fact is, not many hispanics playing college ball, much less nfl Because they aren’t being courted to play as pee wee players. You can’t wait till junior high to get them started in the sport. It’s too late by then in some cases. Start them when they are 6 years old like the black and white populations... and those Hispanic participation numbers will increase. I’d like to see the numbers. Hispanic kids are participating in football in Longview, Marshall, JT, Lufkin. Ignoring the fastest growing demographic of male students in your school is a sure fire way to bury a program. Jmho 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 36 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: Because they aren’t being courted to play as pee wee players. You can’t wait till junior high to get them started in the sport. It’s too late by then in some cases. Start them when they are 6 years old like the black and white populations... and those Hispanic participation numbers will increase. I’d like to see the numbers. Hispanic kids are participating in football in Longview, Marshall, JT, Lufkin. Ignoring the fastest growing demographic of male students in your school is a sure fire way to bury a program. Jmho JT don't have that many Hispanics in football. 100% of the time the one's who do play are the kicker, punter, and a couple who play on the o line. The only reason JT is not like Mt. Pleasant or Jacksonville is because they still have tier 1 talent. If it wasn't for that, they'll be just like the rest of the schools who are going through the same thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 The roster JT had posted online last year had no less than 10 or so Hispanic names. Might have been a blip Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 2 hours ago, Mavchamp said: The roster JT had posted online last year had no less than 10 or so Hispanic names. Might have been a blip That's still not a lot considering JT's population is majority Hispanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 10 out of 50 on a varsity roster isn’t bad though compared to other schools. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 50 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: 10 out of 50 on a varsity roster isn’t bad though compared to other schools. But don't you think it should be more considering the school is mostly Hispanic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 30, 2018 Share Posted October 30, 2018 of course it should be more. But it's better than none. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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