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1 hour ago, btex said:

You are correct, but I haven't seen a bill come from congress about it. It was the state legislatures that wanted to do it. And I would suppose that both groups like to whine after they lose. But having been around for now 10 presidents, I haven't seen this much whining after a loss. And that includes the Tea Party after the 1st obama election. The democrats have set a new level of embarrassment for whining and obstructing and calling for impeachments. 

 

As for changes to the Electoral College. I believe that it could get some support if it were done by congressional districts. Winner take all in each congressional district. Winner of the entire state gets the 2 Senatorial electoral votes. That way those folks in Western New York and rural California get at least a say in their states electoral votes. But that is just me. 

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It won't be a change at the federal level, and they know that. That's not what they're doing.

WHAT THEY ARE DOING is having state legislatures and governors sign state bills ruling that their electoral votes will NO LONGER GO BY THE VOTES OF THEIR OWN CITIZENS, BUT WILL GO TO THE WINNER OF THE NATIONAL POPULAR VOTE.

So what needs to be done is the citizens of these states, if they disagree with these rulings by their state governments, need to raise hell about it.

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Hispanics Rally to Trump, Boosting His 2020 Chances
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 2, 2019 | Steve Cortes 

Posted on 4/3/2019, 9:31:14 AM by billorites

Get ready for the anti-Trump “resistance” to go truly loco, because new polling data indicates Hispanic support for the president is swelling, a trend that could seal his 2020 re-election victory.

When I helped lead the Trump Hispanic Advisory Council in 2016, our effort was widely derided by skeptics certain that the narrative of Trump as anti-Latino would doom his candidacy, particularly in heavily Hispanic states like Florida. But that November, Hispanics saw through the media smears and Trump massively outperformed dour expectations, actually surpassing Mitt Romney’s 2012 percentage among Latino voters.

Since then, prospects have only improved – most importantly for the overall well-being of America’s Hispanic citizens, but also for the political prognosis of President Trump. So much good news erupted last week for the president with the conclusion of the Mueller inquiry that stunning new polling data was largely glossed over. McLaughlin & Associates revealed that Hispanic approval for Trump in March jumped to 50%.

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A Trump gain to 40% of the Hispanic vote -- a very realistic goal at this point – could effectively seal repeat wins in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona. Winning those states means the Democratic nominee must clean-sweep the 2016 Trump states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Moreover, even that upper Midwest sweep would not be enough if Trump’s ascent with Hispanics puts in play Nevada and Colorado, states with large Latino populations that Clinton won by low single digits last election.

For decades, Republicans have chased the “holy grail” of votes from Hispanics, a group that naturally should align with the conservative principles of entrepreneurial capitalism, strong borders, and a culture of life. Paradoxically, the man whom the mainstream media most attempted to vilify as anti-Latino will, at last, truly welcome Hispanics to their rightful political home.

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1 hour ago, Wild74 said:

Hispanics Rally to Trump, Boosting His 2020 Chances
Real Clear Politics ^ | April 2, 2019 | Steve Cortes 

Posted on 4/3/2019, 9:31:14 AM by billorites

Get ready for the anti-Trump “resistance” to go truly loco, because new polling data indicates Hispanic support for the president is swelling, a trend that could seal his 2020 re-election victory.

When I helped lead the Trump Hispanic Advisory Council in 2016, our effort was widely derided by skeptics certain that the narrative of Trump as anti-Latino would doom his candidacy, particularly in heavily Hispanic states like Florida. But that November, Hispanics saw through the media smears and Trump massively outperformed dour expectations, actually surpassing Mitt Romney’s 2012 percentage among Latino voters.

Since then, prospects have only improved – most importantly for the overall well-being of America’s Hispanic citizens, but also for the political prognosis of President Trump. So much good news erupted last week for the president with the conclusion of the Mueller inquiry that stunning new polling data was largely glossed over. McLaughlin & Associates revealed that Hispanic approval for Trump in March jumped to 50%.

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A Trump gain to 40% of the Hispanic vote -- a very realistic goal at this point – could effectively seal repeat wins in Florida, Georgia, North Carolina, and Arizona. Winning those states means the Democratic nominee must clean-sweep the 2016 Trump states of Pennsylvania, Michigan, and Wisconsin. Moreover, even that upper Midwest sweep would not be enough if Trump’s ascent with Hispanics puts in play Nevada and Colorado, states with large Latino populations that Clinton won by low single digits last election.

For decades, Republicans have chased the “holy grail” of votes from Hispanics, a group that naturally should align with the conservative principles of entrepreneurial capitalism, strong borders, and a culture of life. Paradoxically, the man whom the mainstream media most attempted to vilify as anti-Latino will, at last, truly welcome Hispanics to their rightful political home.

(Excerpt) Read more at realclearpolitics.com ...

 

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7 minutes ago, Wild74 said:

I don't think the working Hispanics want to be flooded with more low cost labor competing for their jobs. 

They also don't want to be called bad hombres or rapist either.   Trump's rhetoric  on Hispanics has made it popular to openly hate Hispanics. 

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10 minutes ago, CENTEXFAN said:

They also don't want to be called bad hombres or rapist either.   Trump's rhetoric  on Hispanics has made it popular to openly hate Hispanics. 

I give the Hispanics a little more credit they know who he is talking about. 

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5 hours ago, Wild74 said:

I give the Hispanics a little more credit they know who he is talking about. 

It is Trump's followers causing the problems.  They lumped all Hispanics as illegals even though most are born and raised in America.  

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6 hours ago, CENTEXFAN said:

They also don't want to be called bad hombres or rapist either.   Trump's rhetoric  on Hispanics has made it popular to openly hate Hispanics. 

You do realize he's talking about MS-13, cartels, drug and human traffickers don't you ?  I think they see it that way too.  

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1 hour ago, DaveTV1 said:

You do realize he's talking about MS-13, cartels, drug and human traffickers don't you ?  I think they see it that way too.  

I talk to the Hispanics in my community.  They are talking about the dirty looks they get , and some people cant whisper very good  .   That is happening a whole lot more than it used to.  Just because someone is brown doesn't make them illegal.  It is still a rarity that someone just goes off like you see on YouTube videos.  Hispanics can see the uptick in flat out hatred being directed their way.  It was always there, but Trump made it fashionable.  

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16 hours ago, CENTEXFAN said:

It is Trump's followers causing the problems.  They lumped all Hispanics as illegals even though most are born and raised in America.  

On one side, by using the word "most", you are correct about Hispanics being born in the United States. 

Since the last census we have was 2010, I'll have to use it https://www.infoplease.com/us/race-population/population-united-states-race-and-hispaniclatino-origin-census-2000-and-2010

As of today, the "predominant" thought is that there are at least 11 million Illegal immigrants in the United States. But there could be upwards of 22-25 million. Now I know that NOT all illegal immigrants are just from "south of the border". So let's estimate that 85% are from "south of the border". At the lowest number, 11 million, that would be 9.35 million illegal immigrants from "south of the border". According to 2010 census, 50 million people were classified as Hispanic. Meaning that close to 1 and 5 Hispanics in this country are illegal, probably little closer to 1 and 6. But that is at the lowest number of illegal immigrants. If there are 22 million illegal immigrants then you can double that number. Either way, perception will have people wondering how many of those are illegal when they 6 of them together. 

And we all know that with perception, everything is based on 90% is what people perceive, and 10% is actually truth. 

So while "most" Hispanics are actually born and raised in the United States, because of bigotry, the perception is that most are here illegally. That is not good. 

Like Btex has stated elsewhere, we need more people taking care of the "overstayed visas", we need a change in the asylum laws especially, and we need security all along the border, whether it is a wall, technology, or manpower. 

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The new DNC is colder, less human and more divisive

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Democratic operatives do not fear you will win the nomination—they think you’re too old, your time has passed, you’re not where the energy of the base is, or the money. But they do not want you taking up oxygen the next six to 10 months as you sink in the polls. And they don’t want you swooping in to claim the middle lane. Others already have a stake there, or mean to.

In the past you were never really slimed and reviled by your party; you were mostly teased and patronized. But if you get in the race this time, it will be different...

The mood of the rising quadrants of the new party is more pinched—more abstractedly aggrieved, more theoretical. Less human. Now there’s a mood not of Everyone Can Rise but of Some Must Be Taken Down. White people in general, and white males in particular, are guilty of intractable privilege. It’s bitter, resentful, divisive.

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Biden has a lot worse problems than the "creepy Joe the grabber" stuff ... if he decides not to run or if he runs and is later forced out of the race it won't be because of the inappropriateness with women stuff ... it will be because of his $$$$$ corruption concerning his son and himself with the Ukrainians ....KF

 

 Exclusive — Peter Schweizer: Joe Biden ‘Steered $1.8 Billion’ to Ukraine While His Son Bagged ‘Sweetheart Deal’ from Their Government

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/03/exclusive-peter-schweizer-joe-biden-steered-1-8-billion-to-ukraine-while-his-son-bagged-sweetheart-deal-from-their-government/

 

Biden faces scrutiny for demanding ouster of Ukraine official probing firm that employed his son

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-scrutiny-demanding-ouster-ukraine-official#

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1 hour ago, DAWG91 said:

Biden is an old, straight white male.  He was doomed before the "creepy-grabby joe" narrative even began. 

Imo, the fact he’s an old, straight white male is the very reason the “creepy-grabby joe” poo started.  Otherwise, the DNC would’ve stopped it immediately.

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4 minutes ago, Hagar said:

Imo, the fact he’s an old, straight white male is the very reason the “creepy-grabby joe” poo started.  Otherwise, the DNC would’ve stopped it immediately.

I agree.  This is just an extra push to make sure that final nail is hammered in so deep there's no chance at coming back from it.  Bernie's an old straight white man too,  but his santa claus impersonation gives him a bit more good will.

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On 4/5/2019 at 12:29 PM, KirtFalcon said:

Biden has a lot worse problems than the "creepy Joe the grabber" stuff ... if he decides not to run or if he runs and is later forced out of the race it won't be because of the inappropriateness with women stuff ... it will be because of his $$$$$ corruption concerning his son and himself with the Ukrainians ....KF

 

 Exclusive — Peter Schweizer: Joe Biden ‘Steered $1.8 Billion’ to Ukraine While His Son Bagged ‘Sweetheart Deal’ from Their Government

https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/04/03/exclusive-peter-schweizer-joe-biden-steered-1-8-billion-to-ukraine-while-his-son-bagged-sweetheart-deal-from-their-government/

 

Biden faces scrutiny for demanding ouster of Ukraine official probing firm that employed his son

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/bidens-scrutiny-demanding-ouster-ukraine-official#

It is funny you think Americans care about Ukraine.

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5 hours ago, CENTEXFAN said:

It is funny you think Americans care about Ukraine.

Obviously you only care about Republican corruption  ... you are blinder than a bat if you can't see abuse of power and government assets by "Bite Me" ...

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10 hours ago, CENTEXFAN said:

It is funny you think Americans care about Ukraine.

It’s funny that you think Americans will put any confidence in any of these losers. BTW, when can we expect to hear you announce that you’re running for POTUS? You’re one of the few dims that ISN’T in the race. 

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13 hours ago, trueblue82 said:

It’s funny that you think Americans will put any confidence in any of these losers. BTW, when can we expect to hear you announce that you’re running for POTUS? You’re one of the few dims that ISN’T in the race. 

People don't really care about things unless it affects them. That's not a good thing, but it is reality. Notice no poll bust on Trump's Russia collusion scandal.  People don't care.  

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