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Gunter (14-0) vs Canadian (13-1), Class 3A (D-II) Semifinals


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  1. 1. Who Advances to the 3A Div II State Finals?


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10 hours ago, Pax said:

Since district play started, and including playoff games as well, Gunter is beating teams by an average of 35.6 points per game.  The teams they are beating are winning their games by an average of 6.6 per game.  So, Gunter swings these games by an average of 42.2 points.

Canadian is beating teams by 33.7 who are used to winning by 5.9 - for a swing of 39.6 points.

Since Canadian wins by an average of 33.7, and Gunter "swings" their opponents out of their average game by 42.2 points, that would favor Gunter by 8.5 points.  Gunter wins by an average of 35.6, and Canadian "swings" their opponents out of their average game by 39.6 points, so that would favor Canadian by 4 points.  The average of these two would be Gunter favored by 2.  The score my algorithm comes up with in this one is Gunter, 35-33.  This is considering district games and beyond - as well as only the district and beyond games by their opponents. 

Using the same method :

Considering every game played overall including preseason - Gunter 30, Canadian 27.

Considering the best 3 "swing" games by each team** - Canadian 38, Gunter 29. 

Worst 3 swing games*** - Gunter 40, Canadian 25.

Gunter's best 3 vs Canadian's worst 3 - Gunter 39, Canadian 11.

Canadian's best 3 vs Gunter's worst 3 - Canadian 52, Gunter 30.

Considering only the 4 playoff games - Canadian 37, Gunter 31.

Games against opponents that score 30+ ppg - Canadian 29, Gunter 27.

Games against opponents who hold teams to fewer than 20 ppg - Gunter 30, Canadian 22.

The average of all of these : Gunter 32, Canadian 30.

** - Canadian's best 3 swing games were against Anson, Friona, and Colorado.  Gunter's best 3 were the Holliday playoff game, Nocona, and the Holliday district game.

*** - Canadian's worst 3 swing games were against Grapevine Faith, Perryton, and River Road.  Gunter's worst 3 were Callisburg, Lexington, and S&S.

It's hard to beat a good team two times in a row, and Gunter pulled that off against a very good Holliday team this year.  Gunter would have to beat an even better Canadian team 3 times in a row to advance to the state final for the third consecutive year.  It's a tall order, but I think Gunter will pull it off in a one-score game.  Both teams in the 30s.

Good job Pax! Very insightful...

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On 12/9/2018 at 10:03 PM, Pax said:

Since district play started, and including playoff games as well, Gunter is beating teams by an average of 35.6 points per game.  The teams they are beating are winning their games by an average of 6.6 per game.  So, Gunter swings these games by an average of 42.2 points.

Canadian is beating teams by 33.7 who are used to winning by 5.9 - for a swing of 39.6 points.

Since Canadian wins by an average of 33.7, and Gunter "swings" their opponents out of their average game by 42.2 points, that would favor Gunter by 8.5 points.  Gunter wins by an average of 35.6, and Canadian "swings" their opponents out of their average game by 39.6 points, so that would favor Canadian by 4 points.  The average of these two would be Gunter favored by 2.  The score my algorithm comes up with in this one is Gunter, 35-33.  This is considering district games and beyond - as well as only the district and beyond games by their opponents. 

Using the same method :

Considering every game played overall including preseason - Gunter 30, Canadian 27.

Considering the best 3 "swing" games by each team** - Canadian 38, Gunter 29. 

Worst 3 swing games*** - Gunter 40, Canadian 25.

Gunter's best 3 vs Canadian's worst 3 - Gunter 39, Canadian 11.

Canadian's best 3 vs Gunter's worst 3 - Canadian 52, Gunter 30.

Considering only the 4 playoff games - Canadian 37, Gunter 31.

Games against opponents that score 30+ ppg - Canadian 29, Gunter 27.

Games against opponents who hold teams to fewer than 20 ppg - Gunter 30, Canadian 22.

The average of all of these : Gunter 32, Canadian 30.

** - Canadian's best 3 swing games were against Anson, Friona, and Colorado.  Gunter's best 3 were the Holliday playoff game, Nocona, and the Holliday district game.

*** - Canadian's worst 3 swing games were against Grapevine Faith, Perryton, and River Road.  Gunter's worst 3 were Callisburg, Lexington, and S&S.

It's hard to beat a good team two times in a row, and Gunter pulled that off against a very good Holliday team this year.  Gunter would have to beat an even better Canadian team 3 times in a row to advance to the state final for the third consecutive year.  It's a tall order, but I think Gunter will pull it off in a one-score game.  Both teams in the 30s.

I watched the video of Grapevine Faith , and Canadians defense looked terrible. With all due respect . Does anyone 

 

think they have improved since then?

 

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1 hour ago, Newtonres7586 said:

I watched the video of Grapevine Faith , and Canadians defense looked terrible. With all due respect . Does anyone 

 

think they have improved since then?

 

I'd say so, their in the semis and grapevine isn't so.... and grapevine finished the year at (9-2) so they were a good team, the team that knocked them out is trinity Christian and they are (14-0).... JS

Canadian is a good team who have won a few championships in 2A and now that they've moved up to 3A they keep running into Gunter and this may very well be the year they break thru to make it to state

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21 minutes ago, JETT said:

I'd say so, their in the semis and grapevine isn't so.... and grapevine finished the year at (9-2) so they were a good team, the team that knocked them out is trinity Christian and they are (14-0).... JS

Canadian is a good team who have won a few championships in 2A and now that they've moved up to 3A they keep running into Gunter and this may very well be the year they break thru to make it to state

Thanks Jett.I picked them to beat Gunter, because I believe Their passing will pull it out for them. Besides, I want Newton to play some other team at sc. praying Newton makes it.

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