Red90fly Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 Appears to be some smoke with Texas and 2021 QB Jalen Milroe. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted July 19, 2019 Share Posted July 19, 2019 58 minutes ago, Red90fly said: Appears to be some smoke with Texas and 2021 QB Jalen Milroe. Stud Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted July 19, 2019 Author Share Posted July 19, 2019 8 minutes ago, eagle34 said: I hope the other 2 work out. Seems like Texas hasn't done a very good job of recruiting or developing QB'S. Long time ago since Colt was playing. We will see how Ehlinger does this year. He took big strides last year. Hopefully he matches the hype. Texas is killing QB recruiting since Herman became coach. The development part gets an incomplete grade right now, but if Ehlinger takes another step in the right direction we’ll have to revise that incomplete. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle34 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 8 hours ago, JustAFan11 said: Texas is killing QB recruiting since Herman became coach. The development part gets an incomplete grade right now, but if Ehlinger takes another step in the right direction we’ll have to revise that incomplete. Agreed. He needs to lead them to a conference title. I still find it crazy that they have to beat OU twice in one season to get it. Hopefully this year if they split again, Texas loses the first game and wins the 2nd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle34 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 8 hours ago, JustAFan11 said: Texas is killing QB recruiting since Herman became coach. The development part gets an incomplete grade right now, but if Ehlinger takes another step in the right direction we’ll have to revise that incomplete. Not sure it has anything to do with Herman. Sam would have committed to UT if Strong was still there. He was burnt Orange all the way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 9 hours ago, JustAFan11 said: Texas is killing QB recruiting since Herman became coach. The development part gets an incomplete grade right now, but if Ehlinger takes another step in the right direction we’ll have to revise that incomplete. Texas has always “killed it” in QB recruiting regardless of the coach. Just look at the this decade. 2020 - Hudson Card, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star 2019 - Roschon Johnson, # 6 Dual QB, 4 Star 2018 - Camron Rising, # 11 Pro QB, 4 Star Casey Thompson, #14 Dual QB, 4 Star 2017 - Sam Ehlinger, #4 Dual QB, 4 Star 2016 - Shane Buechele, #3 Dual QB, 4 Star 2015 - Mathew Merrick, #43 Pro QB, 3 Star 2014 - Jerrod Heard, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star 2013 - Tyrone Swoopes, #7 ATH, 4 Star 2012 - Connor Brewer, #4 Pro QB, 4 Star 2011 - David Ash, #7 Pro QB, 3 Star 2010 - Connor Wood, #5 Pro QB, 4 Star 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted July 20, 2019 Author Share Posted July 20, 2019 David Ash having a career ending run of concussions put Texas in a whole and Mack was trying to find the next VY but missed terribly. 2015 Shawn Watson wanted Zack Gentry, who signed with Michigan as a TE. Shane did what he could, he just couldn’t run Herman’s offense. He may do good things at SMU. 2020 - Hudson Card, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star Not on campus 2019 - Roschon Johnson, # 6 Dual QB, 4 Star Backup 2018 - Camron Rising, # 11 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer Casey Thompson, #14 Dual QB, 4 Star Backup 2017 - Sam Ehlinger, #4 Dual QB, 4 Star Perfect fit 2016 - Shane Buechele, #3 Dual QB, 4 Star Transfer 2015 - Mathew Merrick, #43 Pro QB, 3 Star Transfer 2014 - Jerrod Heard, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star Eval miss 2013 - Tyrone Swoopes, #7 ATH, 4 Star Eval miss 2012 - Connor Brewer, #4 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer/Ash won job 2011 - David Ash, #7 Pro QB, 3 Star Injuries ended career 2010 - Connor Wood, #5 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer/Ash won job Interesting to see all the signees and how they fared. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WETSU Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, JustAFan11 said: David Ash having a career ending run of concussions put Texas in a whole and Mack was trying to find the next VY but missed terribly. 2015 Shawn Watson wanted Zack Gentry, who signed with Michigan as a TE. Shane did what he could, he just couldn’t run Herman’s offense. He may do good things at SMU. 2020 - Hudson Card, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star Not on campus 2019 - Roschon Johnson, # 6 Dual QB, 4 Star Backup 2018 - Camron Rising, # 11 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer Casey Thompson, #14 Dual QB, 4 Star Backup 2017 - Sam Ehlinger, #4 Dual QB, 4 Star Perfect fit 2016 - Shane Buechele, #3 Dual QB, 4 Star Transfer 2015 - Mathew Merrick, #43 Pro QB, 3 Star Transfer 2014 - Jerrod Heard, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star Eval miss 2013 - Tyrone Swoopes, #7 ATH, 4 Star Eval miss 2012 - Connor Brewer, #4 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer/Ash won job 2011 - David Ash, #7 Pro QB, 3 Star Injuries ended career 2010 - Connor Wood, #5 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer/Ash won job Interesting to see all the signees and how they fared. Swoopes was overrated from day 1. He committed to Texas early in the process and was blown up the rankings because everyone assumed he was the next VY. But the dude lead his 2a team to a 1-9 record, as a 6’5 220 pound QB in high school. I’m not sure how many of y’all are extremely familiar with 2a ball in Texas, but even a solid division 2 level prospect at QB or RB can usually take over games at that level. Enough to at least guide your team to a few wins... the fact that a QB prospect with Swoopes measurables only lead his team to 1 win his senior year, told me all I needed to know about him as a prospect. He would have been a 3 star TE if he had committed to any other program that early in the process. But I think everyone assumed he was the next VY just based off measurables. And yes I know A&M offered him as well. This isn’t a knock on Texas for this misevaluation. It’s a knock on the entire recruiting service for blowing him up the rankings simply because he walked off the bus looking like VY 2.0 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 4 hours ago, WETSU said: Swoopes was overrated from day 1. He committed to Texas early in the process and was blown up the rankings because everyone assumed he was the next VY. But the dude lead his 2a team to a 1-9 record, as a 6’5 220 pound QB in high school. I’m not sure how many of y’all are extremely familiar with 2a ball in Texas, but even a solid division 2 level prospect at QB or RB can usually take over games at that level. Enough to at least guide your team to a few wins... the fact that a QB prospect with Swoopes measurables only lead his team to 1 win his senior year, told me all I needed to know about him as a prospect. He would have been a 3 star TE if he had committed to any other program that early in the process. But I think everyone assumed he was the next VY just based off measurables. And yes I know A&M offered him as well. This isn’t a knock on Texas for this misevaluation. It’s a knock on the entire recruiting service for blowing him up the rankings simply because he walked off the bus looking like VY 2.0 I agree with this 100%. I remember thinking the exact same thing about the 1-9 record in small school football in North Texas. Thought about his size and if he truly were the next VY they’d have won every game just because of him. I was super concerned about him from the start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eagle34 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 7 hours ago, Valhalla said: Texas has always “killed it” in QB recruiting regardless of the coach. Just look at the this decade. 2020 - Hudson Card, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star 2019 - Roschon Johnson, # 6 Dual QB, 4 Star 2018 - Camron Rising, # 11 Pro QB, 4 Star Casey Thompson, #14 Dual QB, 4 Star 2017 - Sam Ehlinger, #4 Dual QB, 4 Star 2016 - Shane Buechele, #3 Dual QB, 4 Star 2015 - Mathew Merrick, #43 Pro QB, 3 Star 2014 - Jerrod Heard, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star 2013 - Tyrone Swoopes, #7 ATH, 4 Star 2012 - Connor Brewer, #4 Pro QB, 4 Star 2011 - David Ash, #7 Pro QB, 3 Star 2010 - Connor Wood, #5 Pro QB, 4 Star This is exactly the problem with Texas QB recruiting. What does it matter what they are ranked in High school? The kids you listed here were all busts other than Ehlinger, Buechele was decent. If you can let us know where Baker Mayfield, Johnny Manziel, Drew Brees, Robert Griffin, Pat Mahomes, Colt McCoy, Nick Foles, etc.. I would venture to guess that they were probably all ranked below your list above. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 2 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said: I agree with this 100%. I remember thinking the exact same thing about the 1-9 record in small school football in North Texas. Thought about his size and if he truly were the next VY they’d have won every game just because of him. I was super concerned about him from the start. If you remember he battled injury that entire season too. I’m not saying that was the reason they went 1-9, but it could’ve had an effect. Also I’d never heard of whitewright before Tyrone Swoopes. If there’d been much success in football I’d have heard of the place. My guess is the coaching there wasn’t very good either. Overrated or not, Swoopes should’ve never had an opportunity to fight for the qb spot until he was a RS junior or so. He needed lots of development and learning of the game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 9 hours ago, JustAFan11 said: David Ash having a career ending run of concussions put Texas in a whole and Mack was trying to find the next VY but missed terribly. 2015 Shawn Watson wanted Zack Gentry, who signed with Michigan as a TE. Shane did what he could, he just couldn’t run Herman’s offense. He may do good things at SMU. 2020 - Hudson Card, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star Not on campus 2019 - Roschon Johnson, # 6 Dual QB, 4 Star Backup 2018 - Camron Rising, # 11 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer Casey Thompson, #14 Dual QB, 4 Star Backup 2017 - Sam Ehlinger, #4 Dual QB, 4 Star Perfect fit 2016 - Shane Buechele, #3 Dual QB, 4 Star Transfer 2015 - Mathew Merrick, #43 Pro QB, 3 Star Transfer 2014 - Jerrod Heard, #2 Dual QB, 4 Star Eval miss 2013 - Tyrone Swoopes, #7 ATH, 4 Star Eval miss 2012 - Connor Brewer, #4 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer/Ash won job 2011 - David Ash, #7 Pro QB, 3 Star Injuries ended career 2010 - Connor Wood, #5 Pro QB, 4 Star Transfer/Ash won job Interesting to see all the signees and how they fared. 2 hours ago, eagle34 said: This is exactly the problem with Texas QB recruiting. What does it matter what they are ranked in High school? The kids you listed here were all busts other than Ehlinger, Buechele was decent. If you can let us know where Baker Mayfield, Johnny Manziel, Drew Brees, Robert Griffin, Pat Mahomes, Colt McCoy, Nick Foles, etc.. I would venture to guess that they were probably all ranked below your list above. If you asked Texas they probably got their #1 target most years. I don’t think that makes it a “recruiting” issue. They successfully recruited who they wanted. You can nick pick the evaluation if you want, but if you go through the offer list for most of the guys you will probably see a lot of the typical powers offered those kids as well. RG3, Manziel, and Baker make the problem seem worse, but I personally don’t think it’s fair the hold those three against Texas. Most major programs missed on those guys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted July 20, 2019 Share Posted July 20, 2019 21 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: If you remember he battled injury that entire season too. I’m not saying that was the reason they went 1-9, but it could’ve had an effect. Also I’d never heard of whitewright before Tyrone Swoopes. If there’d been much success in football I’d have heard of the place. My guess is the coaching there wasn’t very good either. Overrated or not, Swoopes should’ve never had an opportunity to fight for the qb spot until he was a RS junior or so. He needed lots of development and learning of the game. Yep, at the end he actually was used properly and did well. He had the 18-wheeler package, always played hard, was unselfish, was highly respected by the entire team and never got in trouble. I ended up really liking and rooting for him to succeed. He’s the kind of guy you always want on your team! He had tons of pressure on him, had tons criticism thrown at him and he just kept trying and did continually improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 QB Jalen Milroe commits to the 2021 class! 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red90fly Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 10 minutes ago, Lobo97 said: QB Jalen Milroe commits to the 2021 class! Was definately hoping this would be the QB take for this class. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 9 minutes ago, Red90fly said: Was definately hoping this would be the QB take for this class. Me too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Red90fly Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 minute ago, DB2point0 said: Me too If the rumors about Stone on some Texas boards are true then this looks even better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 59 minutes ago, Red90fly said: If the rumors about Stone on some Texas boards are true then this looks even better. I agree Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Milroe is a stud! He likely gives Texas a better shot at landing some other Houston area studs in the 2021 class than they had without his commitment. 2021 recruiting has started much faster for Texas than 2020. I know Herman would prefer to wait but I applaud him for continuing to evolve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 Texas now has 5 commits in the month of July. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatbambino Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Dead period ends this week, so recruits will be back on campuses this weekend. DB Chris Thompson is set to announce next week. Other sites hinting that this kid could commit anytime: https://247sports.com/Player/Juan-Davis-46083889/ 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thegreatbambino Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 Also fall practice starts next Friday, August 2nd. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JustAFan11 Posted July 22, 2019 Author Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, thegreatbambino said: Also fall practice starts next Friday, August 2nd. YESSSS! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 22, 2019 Share Posted July 22, 2019 1 hour ago, thegreatbambino said: Also fall practice starts next Friday, August 2nd. Man today just keeps getting better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted July 23, 2019 Share Posted July 23, 2019 Texas' red hot July continues, as OT Hayden Connor commits to the 2021 class! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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