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Was doing some reading this morning and found this below: 

 

Mike Pereira is concerned with declining number of officials | The Sacramento Bee. It is really time to address the abuse that officials have to deal with on the youth level. Please read this article. The problem is not just in Sacramento, it’s everywhere. https://t.co/e2rFImup4A

 

 

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2 hours ago, MrBuddyGarrity said:

Was doing some reading this morning and found this below: 

 

Mike Pereira is concerned with declining number of officials | The Sacramento Bee. It is really time to address the abuse that officials have to deal with on the youth level. Please read this article. The problem is not just in Sacramento, it’s everywhere. https://t.co/e2rFImup4A

 

 

Its refs, umpires, all officials, all sports!!! I wouldn't want to do it!!!

 

 

 

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56 minutes ago, Nacwagons said:

Its refs, umpires, all officials, all sports!!! I wouldn't want to do it!!!

 

 

 

Need thick skin and the ability to own your mistakes.  Too many officials can’t keep their emotions in check during a game.  

Coming into this they should know 3 things.

1.  The home team wants to win

2. The away team wants to win.

3. The loser will blame the officials no matter what.

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12 minutes ago, MavGrad99 said:

Need thick skin and the ability to own your mistakes.  Too many officials can’t keep their emotions in check during a game.  

Coming into this they should know 3 things.

1.  The home team wants to win

2. The away team wants to win.

3. The loser will blame the officials no matter what.

Mistakes happen, I am referring to the out right abuse from fans and coaches. Even with thick skin it’s tough.

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Unfortunately, parents and coaches are driving away officials.  I have officiated two sports for a few years now and each time out there I try to think about how I can make this extra money without getting verbally assaulted.  And it's not just high school games, it's middle school and youth sports that are just as bad.  The idea that some parents and coaches have that when I show up I have certain teams I want to win so I "cheat" for them is mind-blowing.  In the last two years I have had a coach charge us from the bench and just a few weeks ago a parent come on to the basketball floor to yell at my partner.  Coaches have thrown things at officials and called guys names that are unbelievable.  Kudos to guys who do it all the time.  I will continue to do it because in some instances I enjoy it.  But it's tough!

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Officiating can be tough and I will say that for the most part, coaches on the varsity level (at least in my experience and observation) have really improved when it comes to their relationships on the field with officials.  Now, when it comes to middle school and sub-varsity level...in some cases, it has gotten worse.  However, what one has to realize as an official is that these varsity coaches coach for a living.  In today's world of education, you usually do not have coaches staying at one school for 20 to 30 years, through winning seasons and losing ones.  A couple of bad runs, or simply at the whim of the administration, that coach is gone and has to find a job somewhere else.  This impacts not only him/her, but his family also.

Using diplomacy, knowing the rules and the philosophy of applying those rules, and most importantly, knowing the proper mechanics of officiating, can lead to mutual respect on both ends. 

For those who sit in the stands, especially in football, come join a chapter. Learn the actual rules and become an official!  You will not only see just how hard the job is, but if you learn to it well, you will have the best time doing it!

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21 minutes ago, DieHardCubFan said:

Officiating can be tough and I will say that for the most part, coaches on the varsity level (at least in my experience and observation) have really improved when it comes to their relationships on the field with officials.  Now, when it comes to middle school and sub-varsity level...in some cases, it has gotten worse.  However, what one has to realize as an official is that these varsity coaches coach for a living.  In today's world of education, you usually do not have coaches staying at one school for 20 to 30 years, through winning seasons and losing ones.  A couple of bad runs, or simply at the whim of the administration, that coach is gone and has to find a job somewhere else.  This impacts not only him/her, but his family also.

Using diplomacy, knowing the rules and the philosophy of applying those rules, and most importantly, knowing the proper mechanics of officiating, can lead to mutual respect on both ends. 

For those who sit in the stands, especially in football, come join a chapter. Learn the actual rules and become an official!  You will not only see just how hard the job is, but if you learn to it well, you will have the best time doing it!

I would hate the job...  Running, memorizing, getting everything correct or getting yelled at.... sounds like High School all over again :rofl:

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Most fans don't know the rules enough of a sport. So out of ignorance, they holler out bs to the refs. And to be quite honest, I think some of them make fools of themselves, whether they're right or wrong about a call a ref had made. 

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Just now, Crawford said:

Most fans don't know the rules enough of a sport, so out of ignorance, they holler out bs to the refs. And to be quite honest, I think some of them make fools of themselves, whether they're right or wrong about a call a ref had made. 

Yes, I agree lol. That's why I try to sit at games by myself or with other knowledgeable ppl. 

 

 

What I've been seeing lately here in my area (since i got back in 2014) is ppl are getting escorted out the stadiums or gyms more, I didn't see that before. 

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16 hours ago, MavGrad99 said:

If they can’t take abuse from a coach then they shouldn’t be out there.  If a parent is allowed to verbally abuse them, then the school should be reported and punished imo

I am a coach also, so as a referee or umpire I am not usually bothered by a coach griping or complaining.  However, I think that coaches in some instances are out of line in how they address officials.  If as coaches we are to be role models and set the example for our student-athletes, berating an official or being ignorant should not be tolerated.  Do I get on an official in a game at times? Absolutely.  But there is a way to get on an official without showing him up or yelling and screaming.  Consider that a basketball official has left his day job early in many situations and has hustled to a gym to call a game and spend a night away from his family.  I hate to tell you guys, but the money is not good enough to sit and have some coach try and embarrass you in front of a gym full of people.

Parents and fans who berate officials should be removed immediately.  I have no use for that as an official or a coach.

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14 hours ago, DieHardCubFan said:

Officiating can be tough and I will say that for the most part, coaches on the varsity level (at least in my experience and observation) have really improved when it comes to their relationships on the field with officials.  Now, when it comes to middle school and sub-varsity level...in some cases, it has gotten worse.  However, what one has to realize as an official is that these varsity coaches coach for a living.  In today's world of education, you usually do not have coaches staying at one school for 20 to 30 years, through winning seasons and losing ones.  A couple of bad runs, or simply at the whim of the administration, that coach is gone and has to find a job somewhere else.  This impacts not only him/her, but his family also.

Using diplomacy, knowing the rules and the philosophy of applying those rules, and most importantly, knowing the proper mechanics of officiating, can lead to mutual respect on both ends. 

For those who sit in the stands, especially in football, come join a chapter. Learn the actual rules and become an official!  You will not only see just how hard the job is, but if you learn to it well, you will have the best time doing it!

I think you are spot on - the issues usually come from middle school or sub-varsity games where the coach does not have a clue what he is yelling.  Nothing like a middle school coach telling you how you have missed 10 over the back calls.  Find over the back in the rule book and we can talk.

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20 minutes ago, uniballer said:

I think you are spot on - the issues usually come from middle school or sub-varsity games where the coach does not have a clue what he is yelling.  Nothing like a middle school coach telling you how you have missed 10 over the back calls.  Find over the back in the rule book and we can talk.

Exactly!

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39 minutes ago, uniballer said:

I am a coach also, so as a referee or umpire I am not usually bothered by a coach griping or complaining.  However, I think that coaches in some instances are out of line in how they address officials.  If as coaches we are to be role models and set the example for our student-athletes, berating an official or being ignorant should not be tolerated.  Do I get on an official in a game at times? Absolutely.  But there is a way to get on an official without showing him up or yelling and screaming.  Consider that a basketball official has left his day job early in many situations and has hustled to a gym to call a game and spend a night away from his family.  I hate to tell you guys, but the money is not good enough to sit and have some coach try and embarrass you in front of a gym full of people.

Parents and fans who berate officials should be removed immediately.  I have no use for that as an official or a coach.

You should come to a Mineral Wells soccer game.  Our coach is great about the stuff, but the fans... SMDH...  Even if the fans are correct, are brutal...  One dad yells in Spanish constantly to our refs "¡Oye Árbitro, despídete del Expreso de Pollo!  ¡Deberías ir a trabajar allí!"  (used Google translate)  "Hey referee, lay off of the Chicken Express.  Maybe you should go work there instead!"

Naturally, we don't do anything about it because we have no clue what he is saying, but everyone in the stands are laughing.  It's pretty tasteless.  Especially when he is yelling it out directly to the officials.  

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Just now, roosta said:

Most officials do not officiate for a living. They have jobs like the rest of us and after work get in their cars and hustle to who knows where so our youth can participate. We need to check ourselves on this.

If they only officiated high school sports for a living, their checks are signed by the Welfare Administration...

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On 2/24/2019 at 1:13 PM, MavGrad99 said:

Need thick skin and the ability to own your mistakes.  Too many officials can’t keep their emotions in check during a game.  

Coming into this they should know 3 things.

1.  The home team wants to win

2. The away team wants to win.

3. The loser will blame the officials no matter what.

Are you really blaming the refs for the lack of refs?  

 

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On 2/24/2019 at 7:37 PM, SHillBuckeye said:

There are some good officials out there, but most of them, especially in basketball, need to either learn the rules of the game, or quit. Nothing worse than an arrogant official who has no clue how to call a game. Tyler chapter is absolutely horrible!!

wHAT ABOUT ARROGANT FANS, PLAYERS OR COACHES?

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