Wild74 Posted August 2, 2012 Author Share Posted August 2, 2012 To each their own, I always say ... we really have bigger fish to fry in this country than the opinion on some Chick-fil-A suit or how two adults choose to live their lives, don't we??? ย ย We can't get a group of the chronically offended to rally against special interest groups who pad the pockets of politicians, but by God - Mr. Chicken Man opposes gay marriage - WOO-HOO - YEE-HAW - show your support !!! ย Its not that mister chicken man opposes gay marriage which he does and so do I and will continue to do so until they take my right to vote away but the bigger question that needs to be answered is can the mayors take your rights away for what you say to a news paper or for that matter what you say on Smoaky.com???? That was what the protest was about not homosexual marriage, of course homosexuals wanted to make it about them and will do so Friday with their nasty kiss in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 To each their own, I always say ... we really have bigger fish to fry in this country than the opinion on some Chick-fil-A suit or how two adults choose to live their lives, don't we??? ย ย We can't get a group of the chronically offended to rally against special interest groups who pad the pockets of politicians, but by God - Mr. Chicken Man opposes gay marriage - WOO-HOO - YEE-HAW - show your support !!! ย As I stated in my response above, there would have never been an appreciation day if the LGBT community wouldn't have made public their boycott. It's much like the PETA protests at KFC, the only difference is Chick Fil A is better. KFC wasn't hurt by PETA and it appears that Chick Fil A will only gain more customers because of this. I do think it's stupid that the LGBT chose a fast food company to boycott of all things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 the bigger question that needs to be answered is can the mayors take your rights away ย Hey - you will get no support from me of allowing a mayor to thwart industry, but how many people who went to Chick-fil-A on Wednesday were there because they fear empowered mayors & how many were there because self-righteous posturing is so much fun? ...and how many were just hungry? :D ย ย or for that matter what you say on Smoaky.com???? Free speech does not apply to a PRIVATELY-OWNED message board ... you'll have to talk to Smoaky about that one! :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Its not that mister chicken man opposes gay marriage which he does and so do I and will continue to do so until they take my right to vote away ย Should a personal choice be something we should all vote upon?? ย In a perfect world, boys would love only girls & vice-virsa ... but is not a perfect world. The Leave It To Beaver utopia days are OVER. They are not coming back. So you live your life & leave to each their own .......... RIGHT? (I am sure I am wrong) :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Hey - you will get no support from me of allowing a mayor to thwart industry, but how many people who went to Chick-fil-A on Wednesday were there because they fear empowered mayors & how many were there because self-righteous posturing is so much fun? ...and how many were just hungry? :D ย ย ย Free speech does not apply to a PRIVATELY-OWNED message board ... you'll have to talk to Smoaky about that one! :) ย Some where hungry and that was a good opportunity to eat, some where political who don't like liberal mayors throwing their weight around and others like myself who was hungry, political and don't like liberal mayors throwing their weight around Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cheaptrick77 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 ^^^ to each their own applies here, too ... I just have never been a "protester" type. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Free speech does not apply to a PRIVATELY-OWNED message board ... you'll have to talk to Smoaky about that one! ย Chick-FIL-A is also a privately own company, if they can shut their free speech rights down they can certainly do the same to this board. Even though you may say that Chick Fil A can say whatever they want and that is true the Mayor where denying them the right to build in their city because of what they said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4to3 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 The mayors from Chicago, Boston and San Francisco send out the unwelcome mat to a company because they don't like what the owner says about marriage. OTH, the same mayors are no where to be found when an organized group of ministers calls out Obama for his new stance on marrriage. ย Will these same mayors tell these same churches to pack up and leave town? ย Will you see LGBT engaged in any staged kissing event in these ministers churches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 chick-fil-a is so good, I would almost have to witness the founder beating up gays for me to stop eating there. ย Just kidding folks. But its really good. ย By the way, I don't get the outrage especially since all Chick-fil-a's are closed on Sunday. That is a pretty good sign that they have strong religious convictions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 chick-fil-a is so good, I would almost have to witness the founder beating up gays for me to stop eating there. ย Just kidding folks. But its really good. ย By the way, I don't get the outrage especially since all Chick-fil-a's are closed on Sunday. That is a pretty good sign that they have strong religious convictions. ย I assume it is a good place to eat, I have ate there only once. My wife loves the place though but again it is a good drive from the house to eat there. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 those homeaux-marrieds are living next door to you. ย Who lives next to me, what is a homeaux-marrieds? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 homeaux-married is a married homeaux ย Spell out what you mean, I am not understanding Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 wild 74, that homeaux closet has been too comfy ain't it? ย do the wife and parents know? ย I think I will have to put you on ignore....Sorry Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Spell out what you mean, I am not understanding ย its cajun Wild. lol. in cajun french (eaux) sounds like (OH). But maybe you knew that already. If so, my bad. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 its cajun Wild. lol. in cajun french (eaux) sounds like (OH). But maybe you knew that already. If so, my bad. lol ย LOL he spelled it out later :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day, Chicago style: by "George," I think Rahm's wrong! ย http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2913966/posts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 What's sad is you bring absolutely nothing to the forum to discuss except name calling and accusations Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 Thanks Straw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Straw Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Thanks Straw My pleasure...lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest 4to3 Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 Yes indeed, thanks Straw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 With Meninoโs help, Mitt Romney can fil-A Barack ย Forget Eric Fehrnstrom and the rest of the Mitt Romney brain trust โ the guy whoโs done the most for the GOP candidate this week is none other than Mumbles Menino. ย If the mayor can brainstorm up a few more Chick-fil-Aโs, this election will be over by Labor Day. ย Menino invented Chick-fil-A, you know. Maybe Mike Huckabee came up with the idea of a National Day of Appreciation, but the media needed a bloated cartoonish clod to put it across. And when it comes to clowns, the mayor arrives straight out of Ringling Bros., Barnum & Bailey. ย He came up with such a bad idea that it went around the country in less than 48 hours, from Chicago to San Francisco to even the Fox News Channel, where Shep Smith sneeringly called the Chick-fil-A turnouts โNational Intolerance Day.โ ย So let me get this straight, Shep. Some tongue-tied hack wants to persecute a businessman for his religious beliefs, and so Americans rally around the victim of the persecution to support his First Amendment rights, and theyโre the ones guilty of ... intolerance? ย I would say that when it comes to current Republican strategists, Shep is what Menino would call โa man of great, great statue.โ ย And when I say that, I am โsplinkinโ from the heart.โ ย Itโs amazing how Chick-fil-A galvanized taxpayers. Mumbles and Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel got in a snit about Chick-fil-A president Dan Cathy expressing exactly the same position on gay marriage their hero, Barack Obama, espoused a mere three months ago. ย Mittโs been trying to make issues of, say, โthe skyrockinโ costs of fuel,โ but somehow it didnโt resonate like fried chicken. Even though, if eaten to excess fried foods and peach shakes may cause health problems, perhaps even โprostrate cancer,โ to use the mayorโs words. ย You know what he says: โWeโs are all Democrats.โ And Boston is a tight-knit, or as he calls it, โtight-night community.โ ย But his trashing of the First Amendment made โall of youseโ who arenโt Democrats an equally tight-night community. ย People who believe in freedom of speech suddenly realized that, as the mayor once put it, โWe canโt just sit in our hands.โ ย So they journeyed by the hundreds of thousands to their local Chick-fil-A, โto archieve our common goals.โ Mumbles, your help this week has been worth more to Mitt than all of Sheldon Adelsonโs millions. The GOP ought to invite you to make a speech in Tampa. And from past experience I know how youโll begin your oration. ย โIโm great to be here,โ the mayor will say. โBut I will not be a candidation.โ ย For all these cuts and more, go to Howieโs website, Mumblesmenino.us. :lol: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Paradox Posted August 3, 2012 Share Posted August 3, 2012 How's the homosexual love-in coming along today? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 3, 2012 Author Share Posted August 3, 2012 How's the homosexual love-in coming along today? ย Reuters) - Gay rights activists and backers of same-sex marriage held "kiss-ins" at Chick-fil-A restaurants across the United States on Friday to protest the fast-food chain president's opposition to homosexual unions. ย Same Sex Kiss Day is a reaction to comments last month from Dan Cathy, who said he supported "the biblical definition of the family unit" and put his chain of roughly 1,600 restaurants smack in the middle of a cultural debate. ย Carly McGehee, a Dallas political activist who came up with the idea of the kiss-in, said more than 15,000 people said they would join the protest since she posted an announcement on her Facebook page on July 19. ย Cathy's company "is continuously supporting hate and bigotry and intolerance," said McGehee, 24. ย More than 20 protesters gathered at one of the fast-food restaurants in Decatur, Georgia, an Atlanta suburb, where Mark Toomajian kissed his partner, Jim Fortier, 58, for the cameras. ย "It's a human rights issue, it's not a First Amendment issue," said Toomajian, 41, as protesters held signs playing off Chick-fil-A's advertising campaign. "Eat More Justice," read one sign. ย The protest was organized by Marci Alt, 48, of Atlanta, who has an online petition calling for Cathy to come to her home for dinner with her partner of 12 years and their two children. Alt said she has not received a reply from Cathy. ย Steve Robinson, a Chick-fil-A spokesman, said in a statement about the "kiss-in" that the privately held chain's goal was "to provide great food, genuine hospitality and to have a positive influence on all who come into contact with Chick-fil-A." ย Earlier in the week, customers who backed Cathy's stance swamped Chick-fil-A outlets, giving the chain - known for chicken sandwiches, waffle fries and being closed on Sundays - what the company called a "record-setting day". ย MOSTLY PEACEFUL ย Friday's demonstrations were largely peaceful, although one restaurant in the Los Angeles suburb of Torrance was sprayed overnight with graffiti that read: "Tastes Like Hate," with a picture of a cow next to it. ย More typical was the Chick-fil-A in Fairview Park, Ohio, where only a trickle of protesters could be found during the lunch rush, including one man who into the restaurant with his fist raised and said, "Support marriage!" ย "It is just an average day for us, pretty typical," said Patrick Tate, operator of the Fairview Park location. "There have been some supporters and some from the other side." ย Phyllis Harris, executive director of the LGBT Center in Cleveland, said the controversy does have an upside for her organization's goals. ย "It is allowing people to have their say. It keeps the issue in the public view and you can see folks standing up for marriage equality," she said. ย As for demonstrating, she said, "We are not going to participate as a group. We are going to focus on work here. What happens, happens. We are not against Chick-fil-A." ย At a bustling Arlington, Virginia, store there were no smooching protesters in sight as Sara Holtzman, 26, of Washington, emerged laden with Chick-fil-A bags. ย "To me it makes no difference. They have really great chicken ... and he's entitled to his opinion," she said of Cathy's comments. ย An anti-kiss-in protester, Leroy Swailes, 61, of Oxon Hill, Maryland, said he had seen two same-sex couples - one male, one female - bussing inside the restaurant earlier. ย "I'm a specialist. I've been doing this since the '60s, protesting homosexuals," said Swailes, who was dressed in clerical garb with a T-shirt over it with lettering that said "The Resurrection of Sodom and Gomorrah." ย I have not read where the kiss in is doing that great I would assume it is doing better in California Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted August 4, 2012 Author Share Posted August 4, 2012 Thousands and thousands and thousands of people proudly lined up to support Mike Huckabeeโs โChick-Fil-A Appreciation Dayโ yesterday. By all accounts, it was a successful campaign, perhaps one of Huckabeeโs most memorable actions, a deed that might warrant etching โ#ChickFilAโ on his tombstone so future Americans will learn of the greatness that occurred on August 1, 2012. ย Many of yesterdayโs appreciators were born again Christians, people who, I can only assume, claim to love God, put their trust in Jesus, and have a desire that all people hear and experience the Good News of Christ. That fact alone changes the headline of what happened yesterday. ย Donโt get me wrong, Iโm sure Chick-Fil-A owners felt loved, made lots of money, and greatly appreciated the somewhat positive press they received all day long. And yes, Mike Huckabee has reason to be proud (dare I say, even cocksure?) of the influence he wields to get Americans to buy chicken. Those CFA cows no doubt love Mike Huckabee! ย So good for Chick-Fil-A! And three cheers for Mike Huckabee! And good tidings of great joy to cows everywhere. ย Yet, amid all of that CFA-appreciating success, the Church (at least, the part that exists here in America) failed miserably. Every member of the Church isnโt to blame, of course. Many individual churches and denominations played no role whatsoever in promoting yesterdayโs Great Chicken Awakening. Some Christians, churches, and denominations even tried to throw a social media wrench into the festivities. Some of those attempts went viral and garnered a great deal of attention. But still, chicken-loving Christians everywhere rallied behind CFA yesterday. The crowds were so big that you might have thought that Chick-Fil-A was giving away free iPads or Cabbage Patch Dolls or freshly fallen manna from Heaven. And while lots of Christians chose not to participate for various reasons, many did and the Church as a whole suffered. ย Hereโs why. ย one ย Yesterdayโs campaign, while I donโt think it should be considered or called โhate,โ neither can it be called love. Christians all over America ignored the second greatest commandment: to love our neighbors. Call yesterday what you want, freedom of speech, a rally behind โfamily values,โ a sincere fascination with CFAโs brand of fried poultryโฆ but it cannot be called love. It was not love. ย two ย People felt hate and we ignored that. At the end of the day, regardless of whether or not your Christian understanding of scripture harbors hate or not, a large group of people felt hated. Again, we can debate this point all day long, but that does not change the fact that people felt hatred because of what happened yesterday. Whether or not hate actually existed is not the point, people felt hated. And rather than acknowledging those feelings or trying to understand or engage them in any way, Christians everywhere marched off to their local CFA like it was a cross to bear, a necessity, a battle cry of some sort, the waffle fryโs last stand. ย three ย By rallying behind CFA, Christians put an issue above people. And itโs impossible to follow Jesus when issues trump people. Jesus never said โlove God, love causes.โ That is not the message that gets preached in churches all over America on Sunday mornings. Iโve heard a hundred different explanations from patrons of yesterdayโs rally and nearly every one of them gives precedence to โthe causeโ. We canโt embrace love, mercy, hope, and peace when our causes (or a place of business) trumps people. ย four ย Once again, the mass actions of Christians built another wall of distrust between the Church and the GLBTQ communities. Nobody was surprised that the CEO of CFA is against gay marriage. Nobody was surprised that Mike Huckabee made the decision to rally support behind CFA. And nobody was surprised that Christians took Huckabeeโs words as marching orders, leading the charge with more passion, delight, and Instagram pictures than what we express for so many more important issues facing this country. If Mike Huckabee had declared yesterday โHomeless Appreciation Day,โ would the response have been even half as large and loud? Yes, I know; thatโs an unfair question. But weโre Christians, so weโre very familiar with the use of unfair questions to make a point. ย Once in a while, our culture needs to be surprised by how much we love peopleโall people. Once in a while, our culture needs to be overwhelmed with joy that we are involved in the greater story. Once in a while, our culture needs to see us being a part of the solution and not the problem. But yesterday? There were no surprises. And no surprises only builds more distrust, not peace, not grace, not hope, and not love. ย five ย Yesterdayโs hoopla surrounding CFA did nothing to prove that Christians donโt hate gay people. Oh I know that most Christians will say, โI donโt hate gay people!!โ ย But did supporting CFA Appreciation Day prove that? ย Trust me, I understand that most people who ate chicken sandwiches at CFA yesterday did not do that as an act of hate. I get that. And thatโs cool and all, but did the act of going out of your way to CFA prove that to be true? Do you think that the GLBTQ communities believe you? Would you, if you were gay, believe you? ย Now before you answer that, remember that yesterdayโs CFA Love Day was just one action in a long line of many. Because letโs face it: Christians go WAY out of their way to โhate the sinโโi.e., by voting against gay marriage, voting against civil unions, voicing their angst about gay people adopting children (just to list a few). Is it possible that Christians lose the ability to truly โlove the sinnerโ because theyโre so busy โhating the sinโ? Do Christians put anywhere near the energy into โloving the sinnerโ as they do โhating the sinโ? ย All I know is that the GLBTQ communities are becoming quite used to feeling unloved by Christians. And with good reason. ย How many times do we hear Christians say something like, โI donโt hate gay people. I may not agree with their lifestyle. But I donโt hate themโฆ โ ย If you were gay, would you believe that? Think about it. Would you feel loved by somebody if they included rules, context, and/or explanations about your lifestyle every time they spoke about how much they donโt hate you? Only when talking about gay people do Christians feel the need to preface their โloveโ or โnon-hateโ with some variation of โI donโt agree with your lifestyle, butโฆโ Christians donโt talk about any other group of people like thatโonly gay people. ย So, I want to believe Christians when they say โI donโt hate gay people.โ But sometimes proof of that is necessary. And yesterday did not prove that. Honestly, yesterday proved little more than how shallow Christians can be sometimes. ย Not only did supporting CFA Appreciation Day declare that Christians believe that an issue is more important than people, that declaration was made by the mass consumption of junk food. That fact doesnโt need a punch line. It is a punch line. ย Yes, on some level, yesterday was successful. Iโm sure that today CFA feels really loved. And Iโm sure Mike Huckabee feels loved, too. And Iโm sure lots of people, many Christians included, feel great pride for supporting the cause. But thereโs also a large group of people, good people, people you might disagree with, that today, feel really unloved. ย If itโs true that Christians donโt hate gay people, today would be a really good day to prove it. ย UPDATE: This post is getting slammed with traffic right now. So that you donโt lose your comment, please make sure you copy & save prior to trying to post. Several have lost their comments. My apologies. I had no idea that this post would end up receiving as much attention as it has received. Thank you for reading. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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