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I’m not aware of the full effects of this particular regulation, but many of the Obama era regulations, although making the GW crowd have orgasmic incidents, are in reality, ridiculous and virtually impossible to achieve.  Similar to AOC’s Green Deal, which the Dems want to sweep under the carpet (for now).   

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4 hours ago, BarryLaverty said:

Yeah, the good ol' days, when air and water quality were hit or miss, mostly miss. 

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Look folks, it is a picture that was taken in Present Day China, Barry's like the media, who finds pictures of locked up children on the border and claims this is what President Trump is doing, but they are so stupid they can't see the date at the bottom, 2013. 

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29 minutes ago, TheNameIsDalton said:

You know nothing of the subject 

Surprising fact: Methane emits as much greenhouse gas as 69 million cars⁠—25% of total cars in the U.S.⁠— according to the Wall Street Journal.

THEN, there is this:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/why-trump-wants-even-more-pollution-than-industry-methane-climate.html

The American Petroleum Institute has supported Trump’s anti-regulation emissions policy, but several of the largest drillers have opposed it. They have good reason. The Trump rollback will face a legal challenge, producing years of uncertainty during which drillers won’t know which rules they’ll ultimately have to follow. And it allows the sloppiest drillers to gain an advantage in the meantime over the more efficient ones.

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1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said:

Surprising fact: Methane emits as much greenhouse gas as 69 million cars⁠—25% of total cars in the U.S.⁠— according to the Wall Street Journal.

THEN, there is this:

http://nymag.com/intelligencer/2019/08/why-trump-wants-even-more-pollution-than-industry-methane-climate.html

The American Petroleum Institute has supported Trump’s anti-regulation emissions policy, but several of the largest drillers have opposed it. They have good reason. The Trump rollback will face a legal challenge, producing years of uncertainty during which drillers won’t know which rules they’ll ultimately have to follow. And it allows the sloppiest drillers to gain an advantage in the meantime over the more efficient ones.

 

 

You know nothing of the subject. 

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18 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

So, share with us

 what you know about it. Even though you don't 'like me', and that hurts my feelings, I would appreciate your wisdom and insight. 

 

Well....for starters I spent six years turning feed gas from tank batteries into methane and NGL using cryogenic plants.

 

Ive also spent a few years in process safety management dealing directly with environmental issues.  

 

So....

 

#1.  Nobody in this industry tolerates “sloppy drillers” anymore.  

#2.  How many rigs are we actually running in the US right now and how much methane actually comes from drilling?  Answer....very little.  

#3.  So....if number two is true....which it is....then where does the methane come from from.  Answer.....older facilities and pipelines that are leaking methane.  

 

#4.  So what are we going to do?  Answer....we are already doing it.  We use 100k cameras that pick up emissions from our plants, refineries, pipelines, and tank batteries.  These cameras pick up the smallest leaks and then we fix them.  We have planes/drones/ATV driven inspectors riding the pipeline right aways looking for a release.  

 

#5.  We have already as an industry invested in a cleaner world.  Testing for emissions isn’t just an environmental concern.....it’s a safety concern.  We are not just going to stop caring about it.  

 

#6.  If Methane levels are 25% of what car emissions are.....it certainly isn’t coming from this country.   

 

#7.  I happen to work for a company that has been in the news a lot lately for a large acquisition as well as spearheading the “zero emissions initiative”. 

 

#8.  Who is spending the most money in this country on environmental issues and research and development?

 

Energy companies that’s who.   

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7 minutes ago, NATUREBOY98 said:

Whoever 💩 your post Dalton just can’t handle the truth. Barry asked you to explain and you did a phenomenal job. Excellent post. 

Couldn’t have said it any better, & I have worked in the energy industry since 1978, in various aspects from drilling to Cryogenic Natural Gas Processing of NGL’s to pipeline operation, & the Industry is an ever changing, always Improving, endeavor to satisfy the ultraLiberal EPA, who is never happy, no matter What you do to comply with their demands.( But, it IS a much Safer work environment than ever, Barry!)

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11 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said:

Couldn’t have said it any better, & I have worked in the energy industry since 1978, in various aspects from drilling to Cryogenic Natural Gas Processing of NGL’s to pipeline operation, & the Industry is an ever changing, always Improving, endeavor to satisfy the ultraLiberal EPA, who is never happy, no matter What you do to comply with their demands.( But, it IS a much Safer work environment than ever, Barry!)

How did you like the third party valve leak testing guys coming through on a monthly bases or quarterly can't remember now fixed to many methane leaks I guess. 

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7 hours ago, Wild74 said:

How did you like the third party valve leak testing guys coming through on a monthly bases or quarterly can't remember now fixed to many methane leaks I guess. 

Didn’t see them that often at Union Pacific’ EastTexas Gas Plant; (Which is probably why a couple of the larger explosions & fires happened!) 💥🔥

I bet ol’ Barry would flip out if he had a couple of drops of Mercaptan put into his shoes!😂

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This post was NOT about a lack of effort on the part of the vast majority of the O and G industry to be safe or follow procedure, as it is profitable and it keeps their employees safe, and most companies are actually more about the environment than the current administration even wants them to be. It was about how Trump seeks out the path of least resistance, most damage possible, then plows forward to eradicate rules that are in place, that companies have already been following. WHY DOES HE DO THAT? I think we all know that he has fundamentally changed the conversation to not be about protecting the environment but maximizing profit as a first priority. He is the WORST POTUS ever in three short years to do with protecting the environment. 

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No one on this thread, including me, said that it would strip away citizenship, only that those who were born abroad to those who were serving, would not be granted automatic citizenship. The explanation in your article there STILL didn't really address its intent, was asked for by no one in the State Department or Pentagon, and it has not been fully explained by anyone. 

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9 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

This post was NOT about a lack of effort on the part of the vast majority of the O and G industry to be safe or follow procedure, as it is profitable and it keeps their employees safe, and most companies are actually more about the environment than the current administration even wants them to be. It was about how Trump seeks out the path of least resistance, most damage possible, then plows forward to eradicate rules that are in place, that companies have already been following. WHY DOES HE DO THAT? I think we all know that he has fundamentally changed the conversation to not be about protecting the environment but maximizing profit as a first priority. He is the WORST POTUS ever in three short years to do with protecting the environment. 

JEEZ, Barry... Keep talking like that, & people might soon start to believe that you don’t like the guy....🤨

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We are moving away from being a 'shining city on a hill', I think. Anyone agree or disagree? 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-deportation-children-medical-care-878160/

The Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

 

The administration quietly eliminated a program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States for medical care

Gary Sanchez, of Honduras, right, watches as his wife, Mariela comforts their son, Jonathan, 16, during a news conference, in Boston. The Sanchez family came to the United States seeking treatment for Jonathan's cystic fibrosis. Doctors and immigrant advocates say federal immigration authorities are unfairly ordering foreign born children granted deferred action for medical treatment to return to their countriesImmigration Medical Treatment, Boston, USA - 26 Aug 2019

Gary Sanchez, of Honduras, right, watches as his wife, Mariela comforts their son, Jonathan, 16, during a news conference, in Boston. The Sanchez family came to the United States seeking treatment for Jonathan's cystic fibrosis. Doctors and immigrant advocates say federal immigration authorities are unfairly ordering foreign born children granted deferred action for medical treatment to return to their countries.

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In August alone, the Trump administration laid out plans to make it more difficult for legal immigrants to use social services, eliminate limits on how long families can be detained at the border, and stop providing flu vaccines to migrants held in border detention facilitiesThe administration was proud enough of these efforts to announce them publicly, but there was one move so despicable that they apparently felt it would be best to roll it out quietly.

But there was one move so ugly that the Trump administration, apparently, felt it would be best to roll it out quietly. On August 7th, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) quietly eliminated a medical deferred action program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States to receive potentially lifesaving treatment. The decision to axe the policy was not announced publicly. Instead, families with pending applications were notified through letters from immigration officials informing them they have 33 days to leave the country or risk facing deportation. USCIS confirmed this week that it was ending the program.

 

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“This is a new low,” Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) told the Associated Press, which reported the policy change on Sunday along with Boston’s NPR affiliate, WBUR. “Donald Trump is literally deporting kids with cancer.”

Cancer is only one of the conditions for which an undocumented immigrant or their family typically request deferred action. Others include HIV, cerebral palsy, leukemia, muscular dystrophy, and epilepsy. The USCIS has said that is receives around 1,000 deferred action requests per year.

One such request highlighted by the AP is that of Mariela Sanchez, a Honduran woman who applied for deferred action so her 16-year-old son Jonathan could be treated for cystic fibrosis. Sanchez brought her family to America to seek care for Jonathan after her daughter died in Honduras of the same condition. “He would be dead,” if they had remained in Honduras, she told the AP of her son. “I have panic attacks over this every day.”

USCIS has told media outlets that Sanchez and other deferred action applicants can now bring their cases to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). But not only was this option was not outlined in the letters received by families, an ICE official told ABC News and other outlets that the agency was not aware of the policy change until it was reported in the press, and that no process in place to accept deferred action applications.

 

 

“They’re lying,” Anthony Marino of the Irish International Immigrant Center, which represents several families in Boston who received notices, told Rolling Stone of the USCIS’s claim that ICE can now handle the requests. “These cases were being denied … They didn’t want to own that they were eliminating a program that protected children with cancer from being torn from hospital beds and being deported. They didn’t want to own that. They’re response is to just lie about it rather than not do it.”

Marino is currently looking into what kind of litigation the Irish International Immigrant Center may be able to pursue on behalf of its clients, but the prevailing emotion in the conversations his office has had with the affected families has been helplessness. “It’s been a lot of very difficult phone calls, a lot of very difficult conversations,” he says. “We don’t really have good advice to give people when the government tells you you have to take your child off the treatment that keeps them alive and leave the country. I’m still at a loss to grapple with this. There’s a lot of crying and desperation and fear.”

In some cases, the sick child is an American citizen but the rest of the family is not, putting the undocumented parents who applied to be with their child as they receive care in a heart-wrenching predicament.

“I wish for my clients sake that I had a good answer for them as to whether they should orphan their child in the hopes that they may live longer,” Marino says. “That’s what’s just so mind-blowing about the whole thing. Those are conversations that are happening—”

He pauses to take a deep, pained breath.

“I can’t answer that question for people.”

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Another source...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/08/29/deportation-from-united-states-with-this-type-medical-condition-death-sentence-representative-ayanna-pressley-said/I2Fm6F5b85EKKdLMaLMi3M/story.html

‘Deportation . . . with this type of medical condition is a death sentence’: Outrage grows over federal policy change

 

By Priyanka Dayal McCluskey Globe Staff,August 29, 2019, 8:25 p.m.
 
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Sirlen Costa of Brazil held her ill son, Samuel, after a press conference in Boston this week.
Sirlen Costa of Brazil held her ill son, Samuel, after a press conference in Boston this week.(NIC ANTAYA FOR THE BOSTON GLOBE)

A new Trump administration policy to deport families of seriously ill children receiving treatment in the United States provoked fresh outrage this week, as health care providers feared for their patients, elected officials demanded oversight, and advocates planned lawsuits to stop the action.

Senators Edward J. Markey and Elizabeth Warren and Representative Ayanna Pressley said Thursday that they will send a letter to the administration demanding internal documents on its decision to suddenly end what’s known as “deferred action” — a policy that allows some immigrants to remain in the United States legally while they receive medical care for complex conditions.

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Lawyers for some of the immigrants said Monday that US Citizenship and Immigration Services has begun informing families that it no longer considers requests for deferred action, and that the families must leave the country within 33 days. The change applies to children and adults with cancer, cystic fibrosis, HIV, epilepsy, and other diseases.

The policy change came as a surprise to patients, caregivers, lawmakers, and some federal officials, with no formal announcement.

“It is absolutely immoral to be deporting children with cancer,” Markey said Thursday. “We cannot and will not allow this to stand.”

Critics called the decision a new low for an administration that has aggressively targeted immigrants.

“Deportation from the United States with this type of medical condition is a death sentence,” Pressley said.

She and Representative Judy Chu of California also called for congressional oversight of the administration’s decision.

Massachusetts’ prestigious hospitals draw many patients from around the globe. Immigration lawyers estimate that at least 40 families in the state are vulnerable to the change in policy — with thousands affected nationally, said Mahsa Khanbabai,who chairs the New England chapter of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

Nationwide, about 1,000 people per year request deferred action for medical and other humanitarian reasons, according to the association.

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Meanwhile, the change appeared to stir confusion among federal agencies. Officials at US Citizenship and Immigration Service, which has been notifying affected families, said the responsibility now falls to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. Neither agency responded to requests for comment Thursday, but according to published reports and immigration attorneys, ICE officials appeared blindsided by the move.

“The agencies haven’t talked to each other,” Khanbabai said. “This is a haphazard attempt to try to create more fear and confusion.”

It’s unclear if the families told to leave the country would even be able to do so. Khanbabai said she has two clients who are in no position to return to their home countries: one young man is hospitalized for a mental illness, and the other, a 14-year-old girl, needs ongoing treatment at Boston Children’s Hospital for a complex heart condition.

The change in the deferred action program is one of many steps the Trump administration has taken to tighten immigration. The New York Times reported that in a separate action, the administration was clamping down on a special protective visa, known as the U visa, that allows crime victims who have helped law enforcement authorities with investigations to stay in the United States.

The policy change for sick immigrants drew a rebuke from Democratic candidates for president, including Warren, who called it “heartless,” and former vice president Joe Biden.

“There is no national security justification for further traumatizing sick kids at their most vulnerable,” Biden said on Twitter. “Like all bullies, Trump is purposefully targeting the little guys — but I would have thought even he would understand that kids with cancer and cystic fibrosis were off-limits.”

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Markey tweeted that ICE officials told his staff they would force the affected families to go through deportation proceedings before deciding their fate, which he called “dehumanizing,” while immigration lawyers called it a grueling and unworkable option for people receiving medical treatment.

Legal groups are considering litigation to try to halt the policy change.

“The ACLU will fight to protect these sick children and their families, and to hold this administration to account. Every option is on the table, and we’re currently exploring litigation options,” Carol Rose, executive director of the ACLU of Massachusetts, said in a statement Thursday.

Children’s Hospital officials said in a statement that they are deeply concerned about the policy change.

“We are encouraged by the visibility that has been generated by the many advocates who share our concern,” hospital officials said. “We are hopeful that their advocacy on behalf of children will result in a reversal of this policy.”

Boston Medical Center officials said in a statement that they “oppose any actions that could prevent people from accessing the health care they need.”

Dr. Fiona Danaher, a pediatrician at Mass. General’s clinic in Chelsea, said 33 days is not nearly enough to plan the transfer of a patient overseas. And for some children, the treatment or equipment they need — such as breathing and feeding tubes — may not be available in their home countries.

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“This administration has been taking many steps to undermine the health of immigrant children, and this is just the latest,” she said. “It’s appalling.”

 

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