DAWG91 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 The us education system was once the envy if the world. Had no need for a federal dept of education. It wasn't even created until 1979, i think. We've no need for a bunch of central planners in the DC swamp telling the rest of us how to educate kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 I don't like DeVos either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 11 hours ago, NATUREBOY98 said: Why would you be there? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_burn_centers_in_the_United_States Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 That was a mild skin irritation, at best, right up there with 'you are, but what am I?!' 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 13 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Bet you can’t swing a dead cat without hitting an angry fat, balding white guy peeing himself in delight and wearing his pants too high at that Mensa gathering! Trump has lots of support from people of color Barry. Why did you use that racist language ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 You know what the big difference between Republican and Dimocrat cabinet members is??? .... The ineffective and bad Republican cabinet members are either let go, or resign .... the REALLY BAD ones in Dimocrat administrations are allowed to keep their jobs and keep screwing everything up .... then the media whines because there is such a turnover in Republican administrations ... tru storie ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 52 minutes ago, Greezychef said: Ok Boomer. Actually just under the wire for Gen X, but keep on respecting your elders and betters like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlackBeard Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 2 hours ago, NightStar11 said: Trump has lots of support from people of color Barry. Why did you use that racist language ?? Because the only racists in this day and age are Democrats and liberals. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Looks like a gripping tale of malfeasance, incompetence and straight up cruelty as described by the author about the current occupant of the White House. Anybody need me to pick up a copy for them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mellon Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Sure, bring me one. I know just where to stuff it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 44 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Looks like a gripping tale of malfeasance, incompetence and straight up cruelty as described by the author about the current occupant of the White House. Anybody need me to pick up a copy for them? Must be a powerful book, especially if they can't put their name on it. Talk about trusting someone from DC. But that is expected from our resident liberal parrot. SMFH. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 Here's what maybe sadder and more meaningful about this book: the author could fully reveal who they are, show documentation and video on national TV to confirm what they saw, and supporters of Trump would still rip the author apart, smearing them any way they could, and it wouldn't make a single bit of difference if it were all truth to his cultish followers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DannyZuco Posted November 8, 2019 Share Posted November 8, 2019 6 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Here's what maybe sadder and more meaningful about this book: the author could fully reveal who they are, show documentation and video on national TV to confirm what they saw, and supporters of Trump would still rip the author apart, smearing them any way they could, and it wouldn't make a single bit of difference if it were all truth to his cultish followers. If that were true, then he would do and the world would know the truth, but when all you have is hearsay, just like every investigation, it's just another liar, trying to make money with a bogus book. And what is even funnier, people like yourself fall for it "hook, line, & sinker". SMFH LOL 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hagar Posted November 9, 2019 Share Posted November 9, 2019 Word on the street, that book was written by Stalin’s great grandson. It’s the initial foray by Russia to influence our election. Them friggin’ commies. And BLarry fell for it. Btw BLarry, if you really like the book, I can get you an autograph copy. Autographed by CarthDawg.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted November 9, 2019 Author Share Posted November 9, 2019 23 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Here's what maybe sadder and more meaningful about this book: the author could fully reveal who they are, show documentation and video on national TV to confirm what they saw, and supporters of Trump would still rip the author apart, smearing them any way they could, and it wouldn't make a single bit of difference if it were all truth to his cultish followers. Perhaps YOU should delve into the most famous of the Democrat cults, Founded by Nathan Bedford Forrest... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 10, 2019 Share Posted November 10, 2019 8 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said: Perhaps YOU should delve into the most famous of the Democrat cults, Founded by Nathan Bedford Forrest... That old saw, huh...I would say ANY connections of Democrats to the KKK firmly and forever ended in 1964, when Civil Rights were enacted. Nixon then employed the 'Southern Strategy' to coax the white vote on over, and the GOP continues to use divisive tactics, which are fading away as more people move to suburbs. Look at Virginia for the future and most large counties in Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Bet that dinner table is an interesting place, as husband and wife are on opposite sides of the world on Trump. And, HE points out things that are logical and calm. https://www.yahoo.com/news/george-conway-blasts-gop-incoherent-211624325.html Politics George Conway Blasts GOP’s ‘Incoherent’ Hearing Performance in MSNBC Debut Matt Wilstein,The Daily Beast 16 hours ago Reactions Reblog on Tumblr Share Tweet Email George Conway—conservative lawyer, Trump critic, and husband of White House counselor Kellyanne Conway—got the first word on MSNBC after Wednesday’s impeachment hearing finally wrapped up just after 3:30 p.m. ET. And he did not paint a pretty picture for Republicans. “Yes, that George Conway,” Brian Williams said, introducing the new pundit. “I don't think the Republicans made much headway there,” Conway said. “You saw some non-partisan professionals basically just tell us the facts. And the facts are quite damning. And the defenses that were put up by the Republicans were fundamentally illogical and incoherent.” Conway summed up one of those defense of the president as “Hey, they actually got the money, the Ukrainians got the money, and Zelensky didn't make a statement” regarding Hunter Biden. “But the fact of the matter is, it was the ask that was illegal.” “The second point they tried to make was that these witnesses didn't have firsthand communications with the president of the United States,” he continued. “Well, the reason why we don't have testimony of firsthand communications with the president of the United States is because the White House has been blocking that! And other than that, there were just a lot of irrelevancies.” White House Press Secretary Stephanie Grisham offered up the latter defense on Twitter during the hearings, leaving out the fact that the Trump administration has specifically prevents those closest to Trump—like John Bolton, Mick Mulvaney, and Mike Pompeo—from appearing at the hearings. Conway made his surprise debut as an MSNBC pundit on Wednesday as part of the network’s special impeachment hearing coverage, explaining that he is “horrified” and “appalled” that more Republicans have not been willing to speak out against President Trump. "This is about the country, people doing the right thing by the country and not by their party,” Conway said earlier in the day. “And this is about telling the truth about what really happened and not about party loyalty. This is about putting the country, the law, truth above partisanship.” Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 That dipstick isn't any more of a conservative than anyone named Bush.......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
osup116 Posted November 14, 2019 Share Posted November 14, 2019 Here’s the Real Ukrainian Corruption Story Posted at 8:30 pm on November 13, 2019 by Elizabeth Vaughn Share on Facebook Share on Twitter The Vienna Convention is an “international treaty that defines a framework for diplomatic relations” between independent countries. The treaty provides diplomatic immunity for foreigners operating in a host country. It also establishes a protocol that diplomats living abroad must adhere to. For example, diplomats are not supposed to interfere in the internal affairs of their host country. The treaty, signed in 1961, can be viewed here. Investigative journalist John Solomon has followed the Russian collusion and the Ukrainian collusion stories closely and over the past few years, he has broken one bombshell story after another. Today, he published a fascinating article about the “activist” tendencies of a fair number of Americans serving in the U.S. Embassy in Kiev in 2016. It seems that they somehow missed the memo about the Vienna Convention. He starts out with Marie Yovanovitch, who testified behind closed doors several weeks ago before Adam Schiff’s impeachment inquiry panel. Yovanovitch, a career diplomat, served as the U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine from 2016 until she was recalled in May 2019. During her testimony, she told lawmakers she’d been stunned by her early recall. Claims by Trump’s lawyer Rudy Giuliani were false and unfounded, she said. She had never acted against President Trump’s interests. In March, Solomon was interviewing a State Department official for another story when Yovanovitch’s name came up. This diplomat told Solomon that she had just “caused a commotion in Ukraine a few weeks before that country’s presidential election by calling for the firing of one of the prosecutors aligned with the incumbent president.” He said that a senior official from State was on his way to Ukraine to smooth feathers. The man jokingly said, “We always say that the Vienna Convention is optional for our Kiev staff.” Solomon looked into it, and found that on March 5, 2019, Yovanovitch had indeed delivered a speech asking for “Ukraine’s special anticorruption prosecutor to be removed.” The speech can be viewed here. Solomon said that the country’s media had been “abuzz” over it. Solomon had spent months investigating the “U.S. government’s relationship with a Ukraine nonprofit called the AntiCorruption Action Centre (AntAC), which was jointly funded by liberal megadonor George Soros’ charity and the State Department.” According to Solomon: State officials confirmed that Soros’ foundation and the U.S. embassy jointly funded the AntAC, and that Soros’ vocal role in Ukraine as an anticorruption voice afforded him unique access to the State Department, including in 2016 to the top official on Ukraine policy, Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. (That access was confirmed in documents later released under FOIA to Citizens United.) Soros’ representatives separately confirmed to me that the AntAC was the leading tip of the spear for a strategy Team Soros devised in 2014 to fight corruption in Ukraine and that might open the door for his possible business investment of $1 billion. You can read the Ukraine strategy document here and Soros’ plan to invest $1 billion in Ukraine here. A little digging turned up a letter written by House Rules Committee Chairman Pete Sessions in the spring of 2018 to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo saying that Yovanovitch “had made anti-Trump comments and he suggested she be recalled.” Sessions gave Solomon a copy of his letter. After more digging, he learned that “Ukrainian officials, particularly the country’s prosecutors, viewed Yovanovitch as the embodiment of an activist U.S. embassy in Kiev that ruffled feathers by meddling in internal law enforcement cases inside the country.” He writes: My sources told me specifically that the U.S. embassy had pressured the Ukraine prosecutors in 2016 to drop or avoid pursuing several cases, including one involving the Soros-backed AntiCorruption Action Centre and two cases involving Ukraine officials who criticized Donald Trump and his campaign manager Paul Manafort. To back up their story, my sources provided me with a letter then-embassy official George Kent wrote proving it happened. State officials authenticated the letter. And Kent recently acknowledged in this testimony he signed that letter. You can read the letter here. In mid-March, Solomon interviewed Ukraine’s Prosecutor General, Yuriy Lutsenko. Lutsenko told Solomon that the first time he met with Yovanovitch, she gave him a list (I assume verbally) of Ukrainian officials he was not to investigate or prosecute. He called it a “do not prosecute list.” Solomon asked the State Department about this and they denied it and said it was a fantasy. He wrote: But before I published, I held the Lutsenko interview for a few days to do more reporting. State arranged for me to talk to a senior official about the Lutsenko-embassy relationship. I provided the names that Lutsenko claimed had been cited by the embassy. That senior official said he couldn’t speak to what transpired in the specific meeting between Yovanovitch and Lutsenko. But that official then provided me this surprising confirmation: “I can confirm to you that at least some of those names are names that U.S. embassy Kiev raised with the General Prosecutor because we were concerned about retribution and unfair treatment of Ukrainians viewed as favorable to the United States.” In other words, State was confirming its own embassy had engaged in pressure on Ukrainian prosecutors to drop certain law enforcement cases, just as Lutsenko and other Ukrainian officials had alleged. When I asked that State official whether this was kosher with the Geneva Convention’s prohibition on internal interference, he answered: “Kiev in recent years has been a bit more activist and autonomous than other embassies.” George Kent, the Charge d’Affaires at the U.S. Embassy in Kiev in 2016, is currently a Deputy Assistant Secretary of State. He testified several weeks ago before Schiff’s impeachment inquiry. (He also testified today, but Solomon is referring to his earlier testimony.) In his testimony, he acknowledged he’d “personally signed the April 2016 letter demanding Ukraine drop the case against the AntAC (referenced above). He admitted he was aware of pressure the U.S. Embassy also applied on Ukraine prosecutors to drop investigations against a journalist named Vitali Shabunin, a parliamentary member named Sergey Leschenko and a senior law enforcement official named Artem Sytnyk. He also told lawmakers, “As a matter of conversation that U.S officials had with Ukrainian officials in sharing our concern about the direction of governance and the approach, harassment of civil society activists, including Mr. Shabunin, was one of the issues we raised.” Regarding Sytnyk, the head of the NABU anticorruption police, Kent said, “We warned both Lutsenko and others that efforts to destroy NABU as an organization, including opening up investigations of Sytnyk, threatened to unravel a key component of our anti-corruption cooperation.” (Note: In early October, Glenn Beck obtained an audiotape of Sytnyk discussing his efforts to help Hillary during the 2016 election. He and Leschenko were responsible for publishing the black ledger which forced Paul Manafort to resign from Trump’s campaign. Sytnyk was convicted for election interference in December 2018 in Kiev. The court ruled that the publication of the “black ledger” documents “led to interference in the electoral processes of the United States in 2016 and harmed the interests of Ukraine as a state.” I posted about this story here.) At the start of Yovanovitch’s testimony before Schiff’s panel, she read her personal statement. She had written: I want to categorically state that I have never myself or through others, directly or indirectly, ever directed, suggested, or in any other way asked for any government or government official in Ukraine (or elsewhere) to refrain from investigating or prosecuting actual corruption. As Mr. Lutsenko, the former Ukrainian Prosecutor General has recently acknowledged, the notion that I created or disseminated a “do not prosecute” list is completely false—a story that Mr. Lutsenko, himself, has since retracted. This was news to me. In March, investigative reporter John Solomon interviewed Ukrainian Prosecutor General Yuriy Lutsenko. He told Solomon that there was tension in his relationship with most U.S. Embassy personnel. He said that, during the Obama era, Yovanovitch gave him a list of individuals “he would not be allowed to pursue and then refused to cooperate in an early investigation into the alleged misappropriation of U.S. aid in Ukraine.” This was the “do not prosecute” list which she refers to above. I have not heard that Lutsenko had retracted this allegation. In fact, Solomon referred to this only recently in a different article. I searched for evidence that Lutsenko had retracted and finally found this in the last paragraph of an ABC Go article. Around the same time, Lutsenko indicated in an interview with a Russian-language news outlet that his initial account of Yovanovitch giving him a “do-not-prosecute list” was not accurate. That explanation makes my head spin. They give us an approximate time, they don’t name the news outlet and they say only that his statement was not accurate. If Lutsenko had truly retracted his statement, we would have heard about it and not from a Russian-language news outlet. The truth is that many officials inside the U.S. Embassy in Kiev were corrupt. They were in the tank for Hillary and now they have to cover their tracks. And this includes then-embassy Charge d’Affaires George Kent. Solomon addresses the claim that Lutsenko had recanted his story. He wrote: I called Lutsenko and he denied recanting or even changing his story. He gave me this very detailed response standing by his statements. But American officials and news media eager to discredit my reporting piled on, many quoting the Ukrainian outlet without ever contacting Lutsenko to see if it was true. One of the American outlets that did contact Lutsenko, the New York Times, belatedly disclosed today that Lutsenko told it, like he told me, that he stood by his allegation that the ambassador had provided him names of people and groups she did not want to be targeted by prosecutors. You can read that here. It is neither a conspiracy theory nor a debunked or retracted story. U.S. embassy officials DID apply pressure to try to stop Ukrainian prosecutors from pursuing certain cases. The U.S. diplomats saw no problem in their actions, believing that it served the American interest in combating Ukrainian corruption. The Ukrainians viewed it far differently as an improper intervention in the internal affairs of their country. That controversy is neither contrived, nor trivial, and it predated any reporting that I conducted. And it remains an issue that will need to be resolved if the Ukraine and U.S. are to have a more fruitful alliance moving forward. 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BarryLaverty Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Roger Stone found guilty on all counts. Finally his sneaky tricks and corruption caught up with him after decades of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Found guilty of lying to Congress? I wonder how many people have done that you think? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Former Obama AG Eric Holder was held in CRIMINAL contempt of congress. When does his trial begin? Oh wait, Dc don't work that way... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 35 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: Found guilty of lying to Congress? I wonder how many people have done that you think? Adam Schift lied to congress just a few short weeks ago when he vomited out his fictional account of President Trump's phone call transcript of his conversation with the ukrainian president, but Schift is a democrat, so.....crickets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 Ah, good ol' 'whataboutism' from Dawg and Youngcoach...thanks for sharing. That's SIX of his aides or associates that have been convicted...so far. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted November 15, 2019 Share Posted November 15, 2019 It's called equal protection under the law, something commie radicals don't understand... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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