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13 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

If the GOP senators had any guts or integrity or patriotism, it wouldn't be for much longer. 

YOU talking about, guts, integrity and patriotism after this sham perpetrated by the likes of Pelosi, Schiff & Nadler?!? Get Real, ma’am! 

The Partisan sideshow America just witnessed will go down as one of the biggest Coup attempts of  all time. The Landslide Victory Of Donald Trump in 2020 will Redeem him from everything you Communists Tried and FAILED to do.

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History will not be kind. Aid was ordered delayed an hour and a half after the 'phone call.'
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/dec/22/trump-impeachment-republican-party-congress
Republican rush to defend Trump reveals a party in thrall to its leader

The Guardian
<span>Photograph: UPI/Barcroft Media</span>
Photograph: UPI/Barcroft Media

As the action wound to a climax on the floor of the House of Representatives on Wednesday night, Republicans warned the impeachment of Donald Trump was “tearing this country apart”.

Then, just to be sure, they put the crowbar in and pulled at the breach, declaring that by impeaching Trump in 2019, Democrats were seeking to “disenfranchise” everyone who had voted for the president in 2016.

  • Republican Bill Johnson of Ohio went so far as to use his 90 seconds of speaking time to call for a moment of silence to “remember the voices of the 63 million American voters the Democrats today are wanting to silence”.

If there is a political price to be paid by Democrats for taking on Trump, Republicans were determined to exact it. But in the process, they revealed themselves to be prisoners of a wounded, erratic leader known for demanding loyalty but not famous for repaying it. As the impeachment unfolded, it led to a party heading into the 2020 election never more obedient to Trump.

Trump, Republican politicians insisted, embodies everyone who once voted for him, while the Democratic House majority – installed just one year ago in an election with record turnout – stood for no one, or at best for a disembodied elite, or politically irrelevant classes who live in parts of the country that somehow don’t count.

“This lawless partisan impeachment is a political suicide march for the Democrat party,” Trump said on stage at a campaign rally in Michigan, where he spoke to a cheering crowd as impeachment unfolded.

But is it? If one of America’s major political parties is marching toward its political doom, it might just be the one that saw, in any allegation of wrongdoing by its leader, an existential threat to millions of voters – the party that under Trump has been steadily shrinking, ageing and being drained of all color.

The anxiety of the Republican position was palpable during the impeachment investigation in their efforts to present their minority case as the majority case, and in their strenuous sales pitch of untouchable executive power as a form of populism.

The Democratic House majority leader, Steny Hoyer, laid the dissembling bare in his speech on the brink of the impeachment vote.

“There’s been a lot of talk about the 63 million people who voted for Mr Trump,” Hoyer said. “Little talk about the 65 million people who voted for Hillary Clinton.”

The Republican captivity was such that no Republican member was able to entertain the idea that Trump might have done anything wrong

The line brought a short outburst of applause in the chamber.

As impeachment was announced, Trump was on stage insulting a deceased and beloved former member of Congress from Michigan. Much was made of the Republican calls that followed for Trump to apologize, underscoring how alien the spectacle was, of a Republican daring to reproach the president.

“One day in the not too distant future,” former Republican senator Jeff Flake tweeted, “Republicans will wake up and say, “We did this for this man?”

For the duration of impeachment, the Republican captivity under Trump was such that no Republican member was able to entertain the idea that Trump might have done anything wrong, much less something so wrong as to warrant impeachment.

Instead, Republicans demanded standards of evidence that were impressively high while setting the bar on Trump’s conduct vanishingly low.

If Democrats could not produce a witness who directly quoted Trump as saying “no aid for Ukraine till they take out Joe Biden”, it was case closed, no matter what the surrounding universe of evidence, including Trump’s own words, showed. The refusal by Trump to admit any witness who might be able to testify to what he said in private was somehow the fault of the other side.

No fact that threatened Trump could be true, while any theory that exculpated him, no matter how wild, must be true.

Early in the impeachment process, when Republicans were struggling mightily to get their defense straight, the conventional wisdom was that the party would eventually land on some version of, “what Trump did was wrong, but did not warrant impeachment.”

Related: McConnell and Pelosi set for showdown over next steps of Trump impeachment

They never got there, instead collecting around the argument that his conduct had been perfect in every way, and that to suggest otherwise was heresy.

It was unclear how impeachment had moved the electoral needle, if at all, for upcoming elections. In the must-win state of Pennsylvania, impeachment did not seem to be garnering a lot of attention among potential swing voters, said Christopher Borick, director of the Muhlenberg College Institute of Public Opinion, before the vote.

“For most folks, impeachment doesn’t make a dime’s worth of difference,” Borick said. “Especially for those in the middle, I think the saliency of the issue is pretty low. These are folks that I don’t think spend a ton of time thinking about this issue.”

While support for impeachment has grown radically since the impeachment inquiry was opened, Republicans were right about the country being divided. On the morning after impeachment, support for the process was about +1, on average, while approval of Trump is near the top of the narrow band in which it fluctuates, in the low-40s.

“This impeachment has divided this nation without any concern for the repercussions,” said the House minority leader, Kevin McCarthy, the last Republican to speak before Trump was impeached.

The division predated the impeachment. But the repercussions have yet to fall

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32 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said:

#ExecutivePriviledge... Educate yourself, right after you do that “other thing” to yourself.

The GOP is not a cult. He just lifts articles and posts them. He's upset cuz Trump will win in 2020 even bigger. Nancy is obstructing justice too. 

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8 minutes ago, NightStar11 said:

The GOP is not a cult. He just lifts articles and posts them. He's upset cuz Trump will win in 2020 even bigger. Nancy is obstructing justice too. 

Lol@ the group that is supported by such cults as Antifa, BLM, NeverTrumpers, etc. calling the GOP a cult.

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Media Matters was launched by the Hilldabeast and her apologists ... politifact soon followed ... now, the internet is full of these liberal slang garbage sites .... libtards like Larry are drunk with hatred for President Trump soaking up and regurgitating their vile truthless slime ... 

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On 12/22/2019 at 10:50 AM, CarthDawg77 said:

YOU talking about, guts, integrity and patriotism after this sham perpetrated by the likes of Pelosi, Schiff & Nadler?!? Get Real, ma’am! 

The Partisan sideshow America just witnessed will go down as one of the biggest Coup attempts of  all time. The Landslide Victory Of Donald Trump in 2020 will Redeem him from everything you Communists Tried and FAILED to do.

How bad will the Dems look - losing big to an impeached President.   Why they want our Govt to tell them how to live ever facet of their lives is beyound me.  They no longer want freedom?  Freedom to own firearms.  Freedom to drive what kind of vehicle you want.  Freedom to eat what you want.   Hell no, they want Shagler, Schitt, Shoemer, and Solosi to tell them how they can live.  What a bunch of thumb suckers.

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4 hours ago, 1jacket said:

After Pence it will be, Don Jr., Melania, Ivanka, Eric then Barron lol.

Only after those people are ELECTED by The American Votors; Donald Trump is not a dictator, nor does he desire to be... He is , first & foremost, An American; Americans believe in Freedom, not tyranny.

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2 minutes ago, NATUREBOY98 said:

Who’s the closet socialist that keeps liking Barry’s post? Come out man. Living a lie isn’t healthy. While I disagree with 99% of Barry’s post, I commend him for being who he is. 

His name is PeePeeSilvia.😜😂

Oh, & now we have BoHogg... the Third manifestation of the Larry/Barry profiles.

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7 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said:

Only after those people are ELECTED by The American Votors; Donald Trump is not a dictator, nor does he desire to be... He is , first & foremost, An American; Americans believe in Freedom, not tyranny.

That's right CarthDawg77.

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