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7 minutes ago, NATUREBOY98 said:

Whoever 💩 your post Dalton just can’t handle the truth. Barry asked you to explain and you did a phenomenal job. Excellent post. 

Couldn’t have said it any better, & I have worked in the energy industry since 1978, in various aspects from drilling to Cryogenic Natural Gas Processing of NGL’s to pipeline operation, & the Industry is an ever changing, always Improving, endeavor to satisfy the ultraLiberal EPA, who is never happy, no matter What you do to comply with their demands.( But, it IS a much Safer work environment than ever, Barry!)

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11 minutes ago, CarthDawg77 said:

Couldn’t have said it any better, & I have worked in the energy industry since 1978, in various aspects from drilling to Cryogenic Natural Gas Processing of NGL’s to pipeline operation, & the Industry is an ever changing, always Improving, endeavor to satisfy the ultraLiberal EPA, who is never happy, no matter What you do to comply with their demands.( But, it IS a much Safer work environment than ever, Barry!)

How did you like the third party valve leak testing guys coming through on a monthly bases or quarterly can't remember now fixed to many methane leaks I guess. 

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7 hours ago, Wild74 said:

How did you like the third party valve leak testing guys coming through on a monthly bases or quarterly can't remember now fixed to many methane leaks I guess. 

Didn’t see them that often at Union Pacific’ EastTexas Gas Plant; (Which is probably why a couple of the larger explosions & fires happened!) 💥🔥

I bet ol’ Barry would flip out if he had a couple of drops of Mercaptan put into his shoes!😂

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This post was NOT about a lack of effort on the part of the vast majority of the O and G industry to be safe or follow procedure, as it is profitable and it keeps their employees safe, and most companies are actually more about the environment than the current administration even wants them to be. It was about how Trump seeks out the path of least resistance, most damage possible, then plows forward to eradicate rules that are in place, that companies have already been following. WHY DOES HE DO THAT? I think we all know that he has fundamentally changed the conversation to not be about protecting the environment but maximizing profit as a first priority. He is the WORST POTUS ever in three short years to do with protecting the environment. 

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No one on this thread, including me, said that it would strip away citizenship, only that those who were born abroad to those who were serving, would not be granted automatic citizenship. The explanation in your article there STILL didn't really address its intent, was asked for by no one in the State Department or Pentagon, and it has not been fully explained by anyone. 

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9 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

This post was NOT about a lack of effort on the part of the vast majority of the O and G industry to be safe or follow procedure, as it is profitable and it keeps their employees safe, and most companies are actually more about the environment than the current administration even wants them to be. It was about how Trump seeks out the path of least resistance, most damage possible, then plows forward to eradicate rules that are in place, that companies have already been following. WHY DOES HE DO THAT? I think we all know that he has fundamentally changed the conversation to not be about protecting the environment but maximizing profit as a first priority. He is the WORST POTUS ever in three short years to do with protecting the environment. 

JEEZ, Barry... Keep talking like that, & people might soon start to believe that you don’t like the guy....🤨

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1 minute ago, WestHardinfan1 said:

The INTENT is to end the anchor baby farce.......

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Ah, honesty, so that whole skirt around the Constitution thing...that 14th Amendment has never been liked by 'conservatives'. What is it that we do again if we want to change the Constitution? 

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We are moving away from being a 'shining city on a hill', I think. Anyone agree or disagree? 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-deportation-children-medical-care-878160/

The Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

 

The administration quietly eliminated a program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States for medical care

Gary Sanchez, of Honduras, right, watches as his wife, Mariela comforts their son, Jonathan, 16, during a news conference, in Boston. The Sanchez family came to the United States seeking treatment for Jonathan's cystic fibrosis. Doctors and immigrant advocates say federal immigration authorities are unfairly ordering foreign born children granted deferred action for medical treatment to return to their countriesImmigration Medical Treatment, Boston, USA - 26 Aug 2019

Gary Sanchez, of Honduras, right, watches as his wife, Mariela comforts their son, Jonathan, 16, during a news conference, in Boston. The Sanchez family came to the United States seeking treatment for Jonathan's cystic fibrosis. Doctors and immigrant advocates say federal immigration authorities are unfairly ordering foreign born children granted deferred action for medical treatment to return to their countries.

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In August alone, the Trump administration laid out plans to make it more difficult for legal immigrants to use social services, eliminate limits on how long families can be detained at the border, and stop providing flu vaccines to migrants held in border detention facilitiesThe administration was proud enough of these efforts to announce them publicly, but there was one move so despicable that they apparently felt it would be best to roll it out quietly.

But there was one move so ugly that the Trump administration, apparently, felt it would be best to roll it out quietly. On August 7th, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) quietly eliminated a medical deferred action program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States to receive potentially lifesaving treatment. The decision to axe the policy was not announced publicly. Instead, families with pending applications were notified through letters from immigration officials informing them they have 33 days to leave the country or risk facing deportation. USCIS confirmed this week that it was ending the program.

 

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“This is a new low,” Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) told the Associated Press, which reported the policy change on Sunday along with Boston’s NPR affiliate, WBUR. “Donald Trump is literally deporting kids with cancer.”

Cancer is only one of the conditions for which an undocumented immigrant or their family typically request deferred action. Others include HIV, cerebral palsy, leukemia, muscular dystrophy, and epilepsy. The USCIS has said that is receives around 1,000 deferred action requests per year.

One such request highlighted by the AP is that of Mariela Sanchez, a Honduran woman who applied for deferred action so her 16-year-old son Jonathan could be treated for cystic fibrosis. Sanchez brought her family to America to seek care for Jonathan after her daughter died in Honduras of the same condition. “He would be dead,” if they had remained in Honduras, she told the AP of her son. “I have panic attacks over this every day.”

USCIS has told media outlets that Sanchez and other deferred action applicants can now bring their cases to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). But not only was this option was not outlined in the letters received by families, an ICE official told ABC News and other outlets that the agency was not aware of the policy change until it was reported in the press, and that no process in place to accept deferred action applications.

 

 

“They’re lying,” Anthony Marino of the Irish International Immigrant Center, which represents several families in Boston who received notices, told Rolling Stone of the USCIS’s claim that ICE can now handle the requests. “These cases were being denied … They didn’t want to own that they were eliminating a program that protected children with cancer from being torn from hospital beds and being deported. They didn’t want to own that. They’re response is to just lie about it rather than not do it.”

Marino is currently looking into what kind of litigation the Irish International Immigrant Center may be able to pursue on behalf of its clients, but the prevailing emotion in the conversations his office has had with the affected families has been helplessness. “It’s been a lot of very difficult phone calls, a lot of very difficult conversations,” he says. “We don’t really have good advice to give people when the government tells you you have to take your child off the treatment that keeps them alive and leave the country. I’m still at a loss to grapple with this. There’s a lot of crying and desperation and fear.”

In some cases, the sick child is an American citizen but the rest of the family is not, putting the undocumented parents who applied to be with their child as they receive care in a heart-wrenching predicament.

“I wish for my clients sake that I had a good answer for them as to whether they should orphan their child in the hopes that they may live longer,” Marino says. “That’s what’s just so mind-blowing about the whole thing. Those are conversations that are happening—”

He pauses to take a deep, pained breath.

“I can’t answer that question for people.”

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Another source...

https://www.bostonglobe.com/metro/2019/08/29/deportation-from-united-states-with-this-type-medical-condition-death-sentence-representative-ayanna-pressley-said/I2Fm6F5b85EKKdLMaLMi3M/story.html

‘Deportation . . . with this type of medical condition is a death sentence’: Outrage grows over federal policy change

 

By Priyanka Dayal McCluskey Globe Staff,August 29, 2019, 8:25 p.m.
 
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Sirlen Costa of Brazil held her ill son, Samuel, after a press conference in Boston this week.
Sirlen Costa of Brazil held her ill son, Samuel, after a press conference in Boston this week.(NIC ANTAYA FOR THE BOSTON GLOBE)

A new Trump administration policy to deport families of seriously ill children receiving treatment in the United States provoked fresh outrage this week, as health care providers feared for their patients, elected officials demanded oversight, and advocates planned lawsuits to stop the action.

Senators Edward J. Markey and Elizabeth Warren and Representative Ayanna Pressley said Thursday that they will send a letter to the administration demanding internal documents on its decision to suddenly end what’s known as “deferred action” — a policy that allows some immigrants to remain in the United States legally while they receive medical care for complex conditions.

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Lawyers for some of the immigrants said Monday that US Citizenship and Immigration Services has begun informing families that it no longer considers requests for deferred action, and that the families must leave the country within 33 days. The change applies to children and adults with cancer, cystic fibrosis, HIV, epilepsy, and other diseases.

The policy change came as a surprise to patients, caregivers, lawmakers, and some federal officials, with no formal announcement.

“It is absolutely immoral to be deporting children with cancer,” Markey said Thursday. “We cannot and will not allow this to stand.”

Critics called the decision a new low for an administration that has aggressively targeted immigrants.

“Deportation from the United States with this type of medical condition is a death sentence,” Pressley said.

She and Representative Judy Chu of California also called for congressional oversight of the administration’s decision.

Massachusetts’ prestigious hospitals draw many patients from around the globe. Immigration lawyers estimate that at least 40 families in the state are vulnerable to the change in policy — with thousands affected nationally, said Mahsa Khanbabai,who chairs the New England chapter of the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

Nationwide, about 1,000 people per year request deferred action for medical and other humanitarian reasons, according to the association.

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Meanwhile, the change appeared to stir confusion among federal agencies. Officials at US Citizenship and Immigration Service, which has been notifying affected families, said the responsibility now falls to US Immigration and Customs Enforcement, or ICE. Neither agency responded to requests for comment Thursday, but according to published reports and immigration attorneys, ICE officials appeared blindsided by the move.

“The agencies haven’t talked to each other,” Khanbabai said. “This is a haphazard attempt to try to create more fear and confusion.”

It’s unclear if the families told to leave the country would even be able to do so. Khanbabai said she has two clients who are in no position to return to their home countries: one young man is hospitalized for a mental illness, and the other, a 14-year-old girl, needs ongoing treatment at Boston Children’s Hospital for a complex heart condition.

The change in the deferred action program is one of many steps the Trump administration has taken to tighten immigration. The New York Times reported that in a separate action, the administration was clamping down on a special protective visa, known as the U visa, that allows crime victims who have helped law enforcement authorities with investigations to stay in the United States.

The policy change for sick immigrants drew a rebuke from Democratic candidates for president, including Warren, who called it “heartless,” and former vice president Joe Biden.

“There is no national security justification for further traumatizing sick kids at their most vulnerable,” Biden said on Twitter. “Like all bullies, Trump is purposefully targeting the little guys — but I would have thought even he would understand that kids with cancer and cystic fibrosis were off-limits.”

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Markey tweeted that ICE officials told his staff they would force the affected families to go through deportation proceedings before deciding their fate, which he called “dehumanizing,” while immigration lawyers called it a grueling and unworkable option for people receiving medical treatment.

Legal groups are considering litigation to try to halt the policy change.

“The ACLU will fight to protect these sick children and their families, and to hold this administration to account. Every option is on the table, and we’re currently exploring litigation options,” Carol Rose, executive director of the ACLU of Massachusetts, said in a statement Thursday.

Children’s Hospital officials said in a statement that they are deeply concerned about the policy change.

“We are encouraged by the visibility that has been generated by the many advocates who share our concern,” hospital officials said. “We are hopeful that their advocacy on behalf of children will result in a reversal of this policy.”

Boston Medical Center officials said in a statement that they “oppose any actions that could prevent people from accessing the health care they need.”

Dr. Fiona Danaher, a pediatrician at Mass. General’s clinic in Chelsea, said 33 days is not nearly enough to plan the transfer of a patient overseas. And for some children, the treatment or equipment they need — such as breathing and feeding tubes — may not be available in their home countries.

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“This administration has been taking many steps to undermine the health of immigrant children, and this is just the latest,” she said. “It’s appalling.”

 

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Who is paying for their cancer treatment?  If its the US government for an illegal...  well,  as much as it pains me to say, I agree with him being transported back to his country.

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Not our problem....he is NOT an American citizen........Deport the ILLEGAL ALIEN right now......

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So, that's a yes to we are not a 'shining city on a hill' anymore? I didn't actually see anything in either story about who was paying for the care. 

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30 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said:

So, that's a yes to we are not a 'shining city on a hill' anymore? I didn't actually see anything in either story about who was paying for the care. 

Let his own country take care of him......

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using Yahoo as a source is much like using Weekly World News.......:rofl:

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2 hours ago, BarryLaverty said:

We are moving away from being a 'shining city on a hill', I think. Anyone agree or disagree? 

https://www.rollingstone.com/politics/politics-news/trump-administration-deportation-children-medical-care-878160/

The Trump Administration Now Wants to Deport Children With Cancer

 

The administration quietly eliminated a program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States for medical care

Gary Sanchez, of Honduras, right, watches as his wife, Mariela comforts their son, Jonathan, 16, during a news conference, in Boston. The Sanchez family came to the United States seeking treatment for Jonathan's cystic fibrosis. Doctors and immigrant advocates say federal immigration authorities are unfairly ordering foreign born children granted deferred action for medical treatment to return to their countriesImmigration Medical Treatment, Boston, USA - 26 Aug 2019

Gary Sanchez, of Honduras, right, watches as his wife, Mariela comforts their son, Jonathan, 16, during a news conference, in Boston. The Sanchez family came to the United States seeking treatment for Jonathan's cystic fibrosis. Doctors and immigrant advocates say federal immigration authorities are unfairly ordering foreign born children granted deferred action for medical treatment to return to their countries.

Elise Amendola/AP/Shutterstock

In August alone, the Trump administration laid out plans to make it more difficult for legal immigrants to use social services, eliminate limits on how long families can be detained at the border, and stop providing flu vaccines to migrants held in border detention facilitiesThe administration was proud enough of these efforts to announce them publicly, but there was one move so despicable that they apparently felt it would be best to roll it out quietly.

But there was one move so ugly that the Trump administration, apparently, felt it would be best to roll it out quietly. On August 7th, the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) quietly eliminated a medical deferred action program that allowed severely ill undocumented immigrants and their families to remain in the United States to receive potentially lifesaving treatment. The decision to axe the policy was not announced publicly. Instead, families with pending applications were notified through letters from immigration officials informing them they have 33 days to leave the country or risk facing deportation. USCIS confirmed this week that it was ending the program.

 

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President Donald Trump speaks as he visits a new section of the border wall with Mexico in Calexico, CalifTrump, El Centro, USA - 05 Apr 2019
 

 

“This is a new low,” Sen. Ed Markey (D-Mass.) told the Associated Press, which reported the policy change on Sunday along with Boston’s NPR affiliate, WBUR. “Donald Trump is literally deporting kids with cancer.”

Cancer is only one of the conditions for which an undocumented immigrant or their family typically request deferred action. Others include HIV, cerebral palsy, leukemia, muscular dystrophy, and epilepsy. The USCIS has said that is receives around 1,000 deferred action requests per year.

One such request highlighted by the AP is that of Mariela Sanchez, a Honduran woman who applied for deferred action so her 16-year-old son Jonathan could be treated for cystic fibrosis. Sanchez brought her family to America to seek care for Jonathan after her daughter died in Honduras of the same condition. “He would be dead,” if they had remained in Honduras, she told the AP of her son. “I have panic attacks over this every day.”

USCIS has told media outlets that Sanchez and other deferred action applicants can now bring their cases to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE). But not only was this option was not outlined in the letters received by families, an ICE official told ABC News and other outlets that the agency was not aware of the policy change until it was reported in the press, and that no process in place to accept deferred action applications.

 

 

“They’re lying,” Anthony Marino of the Irish International Immigrant Center, which represents several families in Boston who received notices, told Rolling Stone of the USCIS’s claim that ICE can now handle the requests. “These cases were being denied … They didn’t want to own that they were eliminating a program that protected children with cancer from being torn from hospital beds and being deported. They didn’t want to own that. They’re response is to just lie about it rather than not do it.”

Marino is currently looking into what kind of litigation the Irish International Immigrant Center may be able to pursue on behalf of its clients, but the prevailing emotion in the conversations his office has had with the affected families has been helplessness. “It’s been a lot of very difficult phone calls, a lot of very difficult conversations,” he says. “We don’t really have good advice to give people when the government tells you you have to take your child off the treatment that keeps them alive and leave the country. I’m still at a loss to grapple with this. There’s a lot of crying and desperation and fear.”

In some cases, the sick child is an American citizen but the rest of the family is not, putting the undocumented parents who applied to be with their child as they receive care in a heart-wrenching predicament.

“I wish for my clients sake that I had a good answer for them as to whether they should orphan their child in the hopes that they may live longer,” Marino says. “That’s what’s just so mind-blowing about the whole thing. Those are conversations that are happening—”

He pauses to take a deep, pained breath.

“I can’t answer that question for people.”

So full of hate and can you actually share facts not propaganda from the far left!

 

 

The spokesperson added that the policy is not ending, but will instead be handled through Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE).

 

 

https://headlinezpro.com/fact-check-no-donald-trump-did-not-decide-to-deport-kids-with-cancer/

 

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/458971-administration-ends-program-allowing-migrants-receiving-medical-care-to

 

 

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On 8/28/2019 at 3:42 PM, BarryLaverty said:

...on immigration? Someone please explain this to me. Rationalize this, give the purpose of this.

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2019/08/28/children-us-troops-born-overseas-will-no-longer-get-automatic-american-citizenship.html

Children of US Troops Born Overseas Will No Longer Get Automatic American Citizenship

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President Donald Trump speaks to guests during the Joint Opening Ceremony at the American Veterans (AMVETS) 75th National Convention at the Galt House on Aug. 21, 2019, in Louisville, Kentucky. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
President Donald Trump speaks to guests during the Joint Opening Ceremony at the American Veterans (AMVETS) 75th National Convention at the Galt House on Aug. 21, 2019, in Louisville, Kentucky. (Photo by Scott Olson/Getty Images)
28 Aug 2019
Task & Purpose | By Haley Britzky

This article originally appeared on Task & Purpose, a digital news and culture publication dedicated to military and veterans issues.

Children born to U.S. service members and government employees overseas will no longer be automatically considered citizens of the United States, according to a policy alert issued by the U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services (USCIS) on Wednesday.

 

Previously, children born to U.S. citizen parents were considered to be "residing in the United States," and therefore would be automatically given citizenship under Immigration and Nationality Act 320. Now, children born to U.S. service members and government employees, such as those born in U.S. military hospitals or diplomatic facilities, will not be considered as residing in the U.S., changing the way that they potentially receive citizenship.

According to USCIS, previous legislation also explicitly said that spouses of service members who were living outside the U.S. because of their spouses were considered as residing in the U.S., but "that no similar provision was included for children of U.S. armed forces members in the acquisition of citizenship context is significant."

That is one of the reasons why USCIS has now decided that those children are not considered to be residing in the U.S., and therefore will not be automatically given citizenship. Instead, they will fall under INA 322, which considers them to be residing outside the U.S. and requires them to apply for naturalization.

They will be allowed to complete all naturalization proceedings while living abroad, the new policy says.

"The policy change explains that we will not consider children who live abroad with their parents to be residing in the United States even if their parents are U.S. government employees or U.S. service members stationed outside of the United States and, as a result, these children will no longer be considered to have acquired citizenship automatically," USCIS spokesperson Meredith Parker told Task & Purpose.

"For them to obtain a Certificate of Citizenship, their U.S. citizen parent must apply for citizenship on their behalf."

The process under INA 322 must be completed before the child's 18th birthday.

While children of service members will be allowed to complete the citizenship process outside of the U.S., Parker added, children of government employees "must enter the U.S. lawfully with an immigrant or nonimmigrant visa and be in lawful status when they take the Oath of Allegiance."

You show your ignorance more and more daily.  

 

What's True

New USCIS guidance regarding citizenship for children of U.S. service members and government employees will affect a relatively small number of cases involving non-U.S. citizen parents or adopted foreign-born children.

What's False

The new USCIS guidance does not eliminate ordinary birthright citizenship for children of U.S. service members and government employees who are born outside the U.S.

 

This is from the very liberal Snopes!

https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/overseas-us-troops-kids-citizens/

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4 hours ago, WestHardinfan1 said:

The INTENT is to end the anchor baby farce.......

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I guess some good could come out of this! https://www.theonion.com/amazon-deforestation-reveals-tribe-of-isolated-rich-soc-1837623801

 
Illustration for article titled Amazon Deforestation Reveals Tribe Of Isolated Rich Sociopaths Completely Untouched By Consequence
MANAUS, BRAZIL—Widespread human-caused fires that have decimated over 1,300 square miles of Amazon rainforest in the year 2019 alone revealed a small tribe of isolated rich sociopaths who are completely untouched by consequence, sources confirmed Tuesday. “As the impact of deforestation continues to grow, a team studying the area located a tiny society of wealthy agribusiness executives and financiers who have never before been visited by any ramifications for their actions,” said anthropologist Cameron Hunt, adding that researchers were working to assemble more information about this remote group of oppressors, but had managed to identify a few of them as Blackstone CEO Stephen Schwarzman, AgroSB co-founder Daniel Dantas, and meat-processing magnate Joesley Batista as well as executives from JPMorgan Chase, Barclays, BNP Paribas, Credit Suisse, BlackRock, and State Street. “Although this uncontacted tribe of affluent sociopaths represents an important anthropological discovery, since we’ve never seen people with so little remorse or empathy, they have almost no connection to modern society and simply don’t understand our way of life, so eliminating rainforest cover could put them at risk. Of course, living in a totally isolated bubble means that they’ll fight back against any integration efforts, so we have to proceed with caution. It’s important to remember that while we may not yet understand their greedy and reckless lifestyle, it’s theirs, and they want to preserve it.” At press time, multiple world leaders and the International Monetary Fund had pledged to fund humanitarian efforts to ensure Amazon deforestation doesn’t affect the isolated tribe of sociopaths’ desire to continue living without repercussions. 
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While it is tragic that a child has cancer, no matter where he is from. But shouldn't there be a easy way for a family to get that kid to Memphis for child care? Isn't that where Danny Thomas opened up a hospital to take care of kids for free? So why would they have to come across the border ILLEGALLY to get a kid there? It just seems to me that some people do NOT respect any laws anymore. SMFH. 

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6 hours ago, BarryLaverty said:

This post was NOT about a lack of effort on the part of the vast majority of the O and G industry to be safe or follow procedure, as it is profitable and it keeps their employees safe, and most companies are actually more about the environment than the current administration even wants them to be. It was about how Trump seeks out the path of least resistance, most damage possible, then plows forward to eradicate rules that are in place, that companies have already been following. WHY DOES HE DO THAT? I think we all know that he has fundamentally changed the conversation to not be about protecting the environment but maximizing profit as a first priority. He is the WORST POTUS ever in three short years to do with protecting the environment. 

Breathe Barry, slowly, inhale, exhale. Because with hatred like that, you are in for a serious heart attack, sooner than later. 

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