Tex85 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 19 hours ago, Hawks2021 said: NightStar11 is just being belligerent. Yes - PG is growing, but it is land locked on the east and south by Arkansas High and Texas High. If PG didn't open enrollment on a limited basis there is no chance it would have moved to 4A Div 1 for the foreseeable future. Now, it is possible that in a few years they may grow to Div 1 - or PG could opt to hold and limit enrollment to remain where they are. But that choice will have much more to do with funding and budget than it has to do with winning football games... dont you get more money for non district students than students that live inside your district? with PGs almost all residential tax base i figured thats why they opened up enrollment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 3 hours ago, txk85 said: dont you get more money for non district students than students that live inside your district? with PGs almost all residential tax base i figured thats why they opened up enrollment. I do not think you do, but I could be wrong. Texas school districts are receiving funds based on daily attendance. It is probably why PG has limited open enrollment. There is a financial advantage of having more students at the school. That is why Administration and teachers push daily attendance. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex85 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 44 minutes ago, swaha said: I do not think you do, but I could be wrong. Texas school districts are receiving funds based on daily attendance. It is probably why PG has limited open enrollment. There is a financial advantage of having more students at the school. That is why Administration and teachers push daily attendance. all i could find was the districts can get more money for at risk students (low-income and students with learning disabilities). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 39 minutes ago, txk85 said: all i could find was the districts can get more money for at risk students (low-income and students with learning disabilities). There are articles on the web about Texas school funding based on attendance. There is one about the Austin ISD and the costs associated with absenteeism. In regards to PG, when they started limited open enrollment, I heard they had a goal district wide of additional 100 students. Supposedly, the additional 100 students would bring in over $700,000, because funding is linked to daily attendance.. This information was coming from someone that knew school funding and the inner workings. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 52 minutes ago, txk85 said: all i could find was the districts can get more money for at risk students (low-income and students with learning disabilities). What is an “at risk” student? Can someone who speaks fluent Democrat explain this? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted October 15, 2019 Share Posted October 15, 2019 5 hours ago, txk85 said: dont you get more money for non district students than students that live inside your district? with PGs almost all residential tax base i figured thats why they opened up enrollment. Some schools charge $XXXX to come to their school if you live in another district - at least I know they did a few years ago. So say a student from Redwater goes to school in Hooks because their English dept is better, Hooks might have a set fee of $1500 a year to come to Hooks from out-of-district, and thus that student’s guardians would have to pay the $1500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 2:07 PM, NightStar11 said: Only in your own mind. Evidently I am in yours now, since you can't seem to let go. Mahalo for the ego boost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StangtilDeath Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 3:46 PM, cotton84 said: Some schools charge $XXXX to come to their school if you live in another district - at least I know they did a few years ago. So say a student from Redwater goes to school in Hooks because their English dept is better, Hooks might have a set fee of $1500 a year to come to Hooks from out-of-district, and thus that student’s guardians would have to pay the $1500. It's $400 a year at gilmer. My house is in union grove sd by about 100 yards. My wife and I both work in the city of gilmer so it's easier for us for my son to attend gilmer. My sons application has to go in front of the school board to be voted on every year. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, futfan said: Evidently I am in yours now, since you can't seem to let go. Mahalo for the ego boost. No you're really just annoying. YOU seem to be your biggest fan. Stick to football dude or get off the forums. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3lamp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 43 minutes ago, StangtilDeath said: It's $400 a year at gilmer. My house is in union grove sd by about 100 yards. My wife and I both work in the city of gilmer so it's easier for us for my son to attend gilmer. My sons application has to go in front of the school board to be voted on every year. And some time they will give you a place to live and jobs for the guardian I’ve been told. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 10:32 AM, txk85 said: dont you get more money for non district students than students that live inside your district? with PGs almost all residential tax base i figured thats why they opened up enrollment. PG is scared to play the big boys where they belong. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/15/2019 at 3:33 PM, CarthDawg77 said: What is an “at risk” student? Can someone who speaks fluent Democrat explain this? I'm a Republican but an at risk student is the son or daughter of a Dimocrat that has parents on welfare ( paid for from your paychecks ) who wants to get other free welfare at school. They think we owe them something. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
3lamp Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 minute ago, NightStar11 said: I'm a Republican but an at risk student is the son or daughter of a Dimocrat that has parents on welfare ( paid for from your paychecks ) who wants to get other free welfare at school. They think we owe them something. Hey let’s not get nasty about a child. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Dimocrat? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Is that a Football term? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 On 10/14/2019 at 4:22 PM, NightStar11 said: You're just mad cuz I just enunciated what everyone already knows PG is doing. PG is scared to play with the big boys. Paris: 4A DIv1 Henderson: 4A DIv1 Chapel Hill: 4A DIv1 Gladewater: beat PG last year. (Have a two year schedule, so a must play) Atlanta: was ranked #1 in Region 2 in 3A DIv 1 That is not a cakewalk. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, futfan said: Paris: 4A DIv1 Henderson: 4A DIv1 Chapel Hill: 4A DIv1 Gladewater: beat PG last year. (Have a two year schedule, so a must play) Atlanta: was ranked #1 in Region 2 in 3A DIv 1 That is not a cakewalk. Those games facts are true but they are rare contests. And Chappell Hill, Gladewater, and Hendo aren't really superpowers in football. However, you are right to include Paris and Atlanta under McClure. He was one of the ones who used to run around with Surratt and Preston in their high school and college days futfan. Now you see that nucleus of talent and where it came to formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 28 minutes ago, futfan said: Is that a Football term? Carthdawg77 asked about the Dems and at risk kids. There's plenty of food at local churches and food banks. They don't need more freebies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 18 minutes ago, NightStar11 said: Those games facts are true but they are rare contests. And Chappell Hill, Gladewater, and Hendo aren't really superpowers in football. However, you are right to include Paris and Atlanta under McClure. He was one of the ones who used to run around with Surratt and Preston in their high school and college days futfan. Now you see that nucleus of talent and where it came to formation. I don't agree with "rare contests", it is the two year schedule that only began immediately following the Hawk's first Title. The two years before, Paris, Arkansas High, AR, Frisco, Liberty-Eylau, and Krum. The first year was 1-4, the Championship year we went 5-0 against them. The idea that PG is now shying away from the "Big Boys" is not very strong. When the Hawks were in the off years, before Josh Gibson got here, we had a couple of years, and even with a softer schedule, had limited success, 3 wins in 2011-2012 combined. Nobody thought of playing big boys then, much less it being an issue. The same statements made in 2008-2009 were just as baseless. The schedule was a done deal, and they played the cards dealt. Those two years of success were the result of some exceptional kids at the talent positions. It did not continue after they left, and the culture really went stale from lack of motivation. So I still disagree with your statement, that PG is afraid to play the Big Boys. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 3 minutes ago, futfan said: I don't agree with "rare contests", it is the two year schedule that only began immediately following the Hawk's first Title. The two years before, Paris, Arkansas High, AR, Frisco, Liberty-Eylau, and Krum. The first year was 1-4, the Championship year we went 5-0 against them. The idea that PG is now shying away from the "Big Boys" is not very strong. When the Hawks were in the off years, before Josh Gibson got here, we had a couple of years, and even with a softer schedule, had limited success, 3 wins in 2011-2012 combined. Nobody thought of playing big boys then, much less it being an issue. The same statements made in 2008-2009 were just as baseless. The schedule was a done deal, and they played the cards dealt. Those two years of success were the result of some exceptional kids at the talent positions. It did not continue after they left, and the culture really went stale from lack of motivation. So I still disagree with your statement, that PG is afraid to play the Big Boys. But the goal of the Hawks is what? The goal is to make ordinary players into exceptional talents. They can't wait around for them to come up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex85 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 46 minutes ago, NightStar11 said: Those games facts are true but they are rare contests. And Chappell Hill, Gladewater, and Hendo aren't really superpowers in football. However, you are right to include Paris and Atlanta under McClure. He was one of the ones who used to run around with Surratt and Preston in their high school and college days futfan. Now you see that nucleus of talent and where it came to formation. you've lost me so who do you think PG should be playing? Highland Park? Allen? Katy? no they dont have as tough of a schedule as say Liberty Eylau but who wants that schedule really. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NightStar11 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 Just now, txk85 said: you've lost me so who do you think PG should be playing? Highland Park? Allen? Katy? no they dont have as tough of a schedule as say Liberty Eylau but who wants that schedule really. Any big school Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tex85 Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 2 minutes ago, NightStar11 said: Any big school Frisco wasnt big enough for you? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
futfan Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 15 minutes ago, txk85 said: you've lost me so who do you think PG should be playing? Highland Park? Allen? Katy? no they dont have as tough of a schedule as say Liberty Eylau but who wants that schedule really. LE has Hands down the toughest schedule around. LE was always one of those schools that you didn't want for Homecoming. They are having a tough run this year, but who wouldn't against those teams? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 17, 2019 Share Posted October 17, 2019 1 hour ago, NightStar11 said: Any big school What big schools y’all play that are good? Just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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