Champ1000 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I wanted arygyle fan to post this . Vega obviously is in the discussion as the Defending Champion . Arygle always a contender even if they don't ususally finish . Carthage in my opinion is #1. They defeated PG and Gilmer two front runners for State in D2. Sure there are teams like Paris , Decatur, Stephenville to a lesser extent Henderson /Van but who is your conscious pick to win state championship? I personally believe Carthage beats Arygle. Vega seems to be outside looking in. Do not believe the Regionally bias Dallas Morning News. Its all about #Beast Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Gilmer a front runner in D2? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 I think Carthage is the team to beat. But I could see the other 2 winning it also. Not sure outside of those top 3 who could contend. Ive heard good things about Decatur but not sure they have the speed to beat any of those 3. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 1 minute ago, Eagleborn said: Gilmer a front runner in D2? Will see what happens when they play PG. That will tell a lot I think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 4 minutes ago, Eagleborn said: Gilmer a front runner in D2? They did shut out the team that beat one of the so-called "favorites." I personally think they're a top 5 team. Waco Connally being ranked above PG is a joke, however. PG is still without a doubt the #1 team to beat in 4AD2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, H3llR4z0r said: They did shut out the team that beat one of the so-called "favorites." I personally think they're a top 5 team. Waco Connally being ranked above PG is a joke, however. PG is still without a doubt the #1 team to beat in 4AD2. True. D2 is down as a whole compared to last couple of years IMO. After PG it’s really wide open. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 8 minutes ago, Eagleborn said: Gilmer a front runner in D2? Five year tradition going on... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, Eagleborn said: True. D2 is down as a whole compared to last couple of years IMO. After PG it’s really wide open. Apparently that's 2 years in a row. PG was down last year and made it to the state championship. There was 1 player in D2 last year that was up haha. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted October 8, 2019 Author Share Posted October 8, 2019 7 minutes ago, H3llR4z0r said: They did shut out the team that beat one of the so-called "favorites." I personally think they're a top 5 team. Waco Connally being ranked above PG is a joke, however. PG is still without a doubt the #1 team to beat in 4AD2. Anyone that plays with Carthage is a contender especially in a Wide open D2. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, NATUREBOY98 said: Where’d that one man gang go to college? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cotton84 Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Just now, NATUREBOY98 said: Where’d that one man gang go to college? University of Texas.......has not played because of injury Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crawford Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Center............I mean Carthage Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 13 minutes ago, cotton84 said: University of Texas.......has not played because of injury Hope that changes Saturday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 15 minutes ago, cotton84 said: University of Texas.......has not played because of injury He played early didn’t he? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted October 8, 2019 Share Posted October 8, 2019 Carthage, Argyle and La Vega have to be the top three in any conversation about contenders. To start the year, I would have had Argyle at No. 1, and they still may finish that way. But I was really, really impressed with Carthage's win over PG. I honestly thought PG was the best team in 4A, period. Full stop. But the Dawgs flashed a really, really good defense to go along with that stellar offense. To me, there's nobody in Region III or IV that really has much of a puncher's chance against Carthage this year. I just don't think any of the teams in either of those regions can muster enough to knock off the Dawgs. I think Argyle has the type of team to give Carthage fits, however. The Eagles have plenty of athleticism, discipline and coaching, and I think the fact that they spread the field more gives them a chance to make some big plays. It would be a terrific matchup, for sure. But, you'll probably be able to say that, no matter who it is matching up with Carthage in the state title game, because if it's not Argyle or La Vega, then it's a team that was good enough to knock those big boys off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Personally......methinks Paris is the hidden gem in all of this 4A D-1 forecasting. I too like Decatur's team, but they will have to play the Region II Champ.....which could be their undoing. Paris needs Hohenberger at QB to really come around and catch fire in the 2nd half of this season and into the playoffs. He has the size and tools, but not the experience at this level. LV has a really dynamic team with great personnel to win any game. They didn't get the win against Argyle early, but that was early. They have all the pieces to put the puzzle together.....believe me......and the coaching. Carthage doesn't need to be concerned about who it will be that they play out of Region II.......and the team will come out of Region II. Whoever it is.......it will be a difficult and closely contested battle regardless. It might even be Melissa or Celina.......all the teams are not that far apart. Right now at this moment in the season, Argyle's defense needs more fine-tuning and minutes. So does some of the other contenders in Regions I and II. But of the really good contenders.......any and all of them should be ready by Round 3 of the playoffs.......excepting for any season-ending injuries to key players on any of these teams. Same goes for Carthage. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 11 hours ago, d0tc0m said: Carthage, Argyle and La Vega have to be the top three in any conversation about contenders. To start the year, I would have had Argyle at No. 1, and they still may finish that way. But I was really, really impressed with Carthage's win over PG. I honestly thought PG was the best team in 4A, period. Full stop. But the Dawgs flashed a really, really good defense to go along with that stellar offense. To me, there's nobody in Region III or IV that really has much of a puncher's chance against Carthage this year. I just don't think any of the teams in either of those regions can muster enough to knock off the Dawgs. I think Argyle has the type of team to give Carthage fits, however. The Eagles have plenty of athleticism, discipline and coaching, and I think the fact that they spread the field more gives them a chance to make some big plays. It would be a terrific matchup, for sure. But, you'll probably be able to say that, no matter who it is matching up with Carthage in the state title game, because if it's not Argyle or La Vega, then it's a team that was good enough to knock those big boys off. How do you start the year with the defending state champion not at #1? I mean, it's obvious now, but I've always been the type of person that can't take the #1 spot from a team that earns it, until someone beats them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 6 minutes ago, H3llR4z0r said: How do you start the year with the defending state champion not at #1? I mean, it's obvious now, but I've always been the type of person that can't take the #1 spot from a team that earns it, until someone beats them. They did start the season as #1, but dropped down when they lost to Argyle in Week 2. Go back to Dave Campbell's Texas Football and see for yourself. They had Carthage vs LV for the State Championship in D-1.....with LV winning it again. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 1 minute ago, regaleagle said: They did start the season as #1, but dropped down when they lost to Argyle in Week 2. Go back to Dave Campbell's Texas Football and see for yourself. They had Carthage vs LV for the State Championship in D-1. Nah I know that. He said to start the season, I would have Argyle at #1. Just wondering why you wouldn't have the defending state champion at #1, especially a team like La Vega. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
regaleagle Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 Okay......Gotcha. I just misunderstood your post. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXAShorn21 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I think Carthage has D-I... Argyle struggles on defense & they are young. So, I don't see them winning it.. Don't sleep on La Vega they will probably be the team to creep up on Carthage ( they are solid both ways). I still have Carthage as my top team coming out D-1. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, TEXAShorn21 said: I think Carthage has D-I... Argyle struggles on defense & they are young. So, I don't see them winning it.. Don't sleep on La Vega they will probably be the team to creep up on Carthage ( they are solid both ways). I still have Carthage as my top team coming out D-1. I feel the same way. What they did against Gilmer was good but against PG was impressive. Arygle seems to not have that finishing edge. They have some very good teams but not much to show from it. I think some are dismissing Vega cause of the loss to Arygle. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted October 9, 2019 Author Share Posted October 9, 2019 1. Carthage 2. Vega 3. Arygle The rest are good or decent but won't be playing at Jerry World. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TEXAShorn21 Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 2 minutes ago, Champ1000 said: I feel the same way. What they did against Gilmer was good but against PG was impressive. Arygle seems to not have that finishing edge. They have some very good teams but not much to show from it. I think some are dismissing Vega cause of the loss to Arygle. Right that was an early game.. They are getting better each week.. They don't need to be dismissed.. That's one of the reasons I think everyone was so shocked they won last year. You can't underestimate them at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted October 9, 2019 Share Posted October 9, 2019 I just feel like Carthage is the ultimate contender, especially when their staff believes this is the best team Carthage has ever fielded. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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