Bclove05 Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 Had to add a couple things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 3 hours ago, Bclove05 said: Had to add a couple things. But in 7-3A......... If Hooks beats Jefferson beats Hughes Springs beats Atlanta beats Mt.Vernon beats Oklahoma/3.17338888 and the moon and stars align at 23 degrees N to NW, and Oprah marries Tom Cruise, then there will be a coin flip. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loveofthegame Posted October 30, 2019 Share Posted October 30, 2019 And that flip is to determine if the band or athletic boosters at the host stadium get the concessions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevyman Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 Somebody want to give an update on this now? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclove05 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, chevyman said: Somebody want to give an update on this now? It’s still a headache. lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dawg665 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Bclove05 said: It’s still a headache. lol Who are the key matchups to watch for this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bclove05 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Dawg665 said: Who are the key matchups to watch for this week? If Tatum somehow beats Gladewater that really makes everything interesting. It looks like the winner of the Winnsboro and Mineola matchup gets in. WO is still the only team eliminated from the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chevyman Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, Dawg665 said: Who are the key matchups to watch for this week? Winny and Minny are de facto win and win i believe. I think there are some scenarios regarding margin of victory that Winny could get 3rd or 4th with a win. Also Tatum and GW game has some implications as well Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I think this is correct ... I do these a lot and I swear it either is getting more complicated every year or getting closer to 70 means I'm losing brain cells every cycle. Basics: Four WILL get you in … Three CAN get you in depending on points or head-to-head Who is in? GLADEWATER – IN even if they lose to Tatum SABINE – IN even if they lose to White Oak ALL OF THE SCENARIOS BELOW ARE DEPENDENT UPON THE DISTRICT NOT HAVING A MAX POINT CLAUSE IN THEIR MINUTES … IF THEY DO, THINGS CHANGE QUICKLY If Mineola wins and Tatum wins: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN > Seed? If Sabine wins (which is a virtual given), then Minny would enter #2 due to head-to-head win over GW … If Sabine loses also, there would be a three-way tie; in that case, GW #1 (+21), Sabine #2 (+1), and Minny #3 (-22) Tatum finishes 3-3 tied with WR and would be IN because of head-to-head win vs WR and WR would stay home Winny at 2-4 is OUT If Mineola wins and Tatum loses: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN (See “> Seed” comment above) West Rusk finishes with three wins and is IN as #4 seed Tatum and Winny are OUT at 2-4 If Mineola loses and Tatum wins: Mineola, Tatum, Winnsboro, and WR all finish at 3-3 and enters the battle of points At that point, Tatum would be sitting at a -51 (-21/-34/+5) and really no chance to make up that much ground with the Minny/Winny matchup West Rusk would be left sitting at a +5 (+5/-5/+4) and would require Winny to top Minny by at least 24 to enter the playoffs due to big Winny and Minny wins over Tatum. Anything less would still place Mineola with more positive points than WR's +5 Right now, with Mineola sitting at +29 (-5/+34) and Winnsboro sitting at +17 (+21/-4): > a Winnsboro win of +1 to +11 would put Winny in the #4 seed and Minny in the #3 spot - Tatum and WR out > a Winnsboro win of +12 to +23 would put Winny in the #3 seed and Minny in at #4 - Tatum and WR out > a Winnsboro win of +24 or more would put Winny in at #3 and WR in at #4 - Tatum and Minny out If Mineola loses and Tatum loses: Tatum finishes at 2-4 and is OUT Mineola, Winnsboro, and WR all finish 3-3 and enters the battle of points In this case with Tatum out of the mix, WR would be sitting at a +9 (+5 vs Minny and +4 vs Winny). > With both Minny and Winny sitting at a negative differential, any Winny win would eliminate Mineola from entering the playoffs > A Winny win of 1-13 points would put Winnsboro in at #4 and WR at #3 > A Winny win of 14 or more puts Winnsboro is at #3 and WR in at #4 Interestingly, Dist 7 is about, if not more, complicated ... even with only a week to go ... trying to determine first round playoff matchups border on infinity. Clear as mud. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingnut Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 7 minutes ago, DOB said: I think this is correct ... I do these a lot and I swear it either is getting more complicated every year or getting closer to 70 means I'm losing brain cells every cycle. Basics: Four WILL get you in … Three CAN get you in depending on points or head-to-head Who is in? GLADEWATER – IN even if they lose to Tatum SABINE – IN even if they lose to White Oak ALL OF THE SCENARIOS BELOW ARE DEPENDENT UPON THE DISTRICT NOT HAVING A MAX POINT CLAUSE IN THEIR MINUTES … IF THEY DO, THINGS CHANGE QUICKLY If Mineola wins and Tatum wins: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN > Seed? If Sabine wins (which is a virtual given), then Minny would enter #2 due to head-to-head win over GW … If Sabine loses also, there would be a three-way tie; in that case, GW #1 (+21), Sabine #2 (+1), and Minny #3 (-22) Tatum finishes 3-3 tied with WR and would be IN because of head-to-head win vs WR and WR would stay home Winny at 2-4 is OUT If Mineola wins and Tatum loses: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN (See “> Seed” comment above) West Rusk finishes with three wins and is IN as #4 seed Tatum and Winny are OUT at 2-4 If Mineola loses and Tatum wins: Mineola, Tatum, Winnsboro, and WR all finish at 3-3 and enters the battle of points At that point, Tatum would be sitting at a -51 (-21/-34/+5) and really no chance to make up that much ground with the Minny/Winny matchup West Rusk would be left sitting at a +5 (+5/-5/+4) and would require Winny to top Minny by at least 24 to enter the playoffs due to big Winny and Minny wins over Tatum. Anything less would still place Mineola with more positive points than WR's +5 Right now, with Mineola sitting at +29 (-5/+34) and Winnsboro sitting at +17 (+21/-4): > a Winnsboro win of +1 to +11 would put Winny in the #4 seed and Minny in the #3 spot - Tatum and WR out > a Winnsboro win of +12 to +23 would put Winny in the #3 seed and Minny in at #4 - Tatum and WR out > a Winnsboro win of +24 or more would put Winny in at #3 and WR in at #4 - Tatum and Minny out If Mineola loses and Tatum loses: Tatum finishes at 2-4 and is OUT Mineola, Winnsboro, and WR all finish 3-3 and enters the battle of points In this case with Tatum out of the mix, WR would be sitting at a +9 (+5 vs Minny and +4 vs Winny). > With both Minny and Winny sitting at a negative differential, any Winny win would eliminate Mineola from entering the playoffs > A Winny win of 1-13 points would put Winnsboro in at #4 and WR at #3 > A Winny win of 14 or more puts Winnsboro is at #3 and WR in at #4 Interestingly, Dist 7 is about, if not more, complicated ... even with only a week to go ... trying to determine first round playoff matchups border on infinity. Clear as mud. I believe the point cap is 17. I know there is one but not sure if it's 15 or 17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
H3llR4z0r Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, DOB said: I think this is correct ... I do these a lot and I swear it either is getting more complicated every year or getting closer to 70 means I'm losing brain cells every cycle. Basics: Four WILL get you in … Three CAN get you in depending on points or head-to-head Who is in? GLADEWATER – IN even if they lose to Tatum SABINE – IN even if they lose to White Oak ALL OF THE SCENARIOS BELOW ARE DEPENDENT UPON THE DISTRICT NOT HAVING A MAX POINT CLAUSE IN THEIR MINUTES … IF THEY DO, THINGS CHANGE QUICKLY If Mineola wins and Tatum wins: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN > Seed? If Sabine wins (which is a virtual given), then Minny would enter #2 due to head-to-head win over GW … If Sabine loses also, there would be a three-way tie; in that case, GW #1 (+21), Sabine #2 (+1), and Minny #3 (-22) Tatum finishes 3-3 tied with WR and would be IN because of head-to-head win vs WR and WR would stay home Winny at 2-4 is OUT If Mineola wins and Tatum loses: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN (See “> Seed” comment above) West Rusk finishes with three wins and is IN as #4 seed Tatum and Winny are OUT at 2-4 If Mineola loses and Tatum wins: Mineola, Tatum, Winnsboro, and WR all finish at 3-3 and enters the battle of points At that point, Tatum would be sitting at a -51 (-21/-34/+5) and really no chance to make up that much ground with the Minny/Winny matchup West Rusk would be left sitting at a +5 (+5/-5/+4) and would require Winny to top Minny by at least 24 to enter the playoffs due to big Winny and Minny wins over Tatum. Anything less would still place Mineola with more positive points than WR's +5 Right now, with Mineola sitting at +29 (-5/+34) and Winnsboro sitting at +17 (+21/-4): > a Winnsboro win of +1 to +11 would put Winny in the #4 seed and Minny in the #3 spot - Tatum and WR out > a Winnsboro win of +12 to +23 would put Winny in the #3 seed and Minny in at #4 - Tatum and WR out > a Winnsboro win of +24 or more would put Winny in at #3 and WR in at #4 - Tatum and Minny out If Mineola loses and Tatum loses: Tatum finishes at 2-4 and is OUT Mineola, Winnsboro, and WR all finish 3-3 and enters the battle of points In this case with Tatum out of the mix, WR would be sitting at a +9 (+5 vs Minny and +4 vs Winny). > With both Minny and Winny sitting at a negative differential, any Winny win would eliminate Mineola from entering the playoffs > A Winny win of 1-13 points would put Winnsboro in at #4 and WR at #3 > A Winny win of 14 or more puts Winnsboro is at #3 and WR in at #4 Interestingly, Dist 7 is about, if not more, complicated ... even with only a week to go ... trying to determine first round playoff matchups border on infinity. Clear as mud. Is there not a point cap in the district? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 1 minute ago, Golfingnut said: I believe the point cap is 17. I know there is one but not sure if it's 15 or 17. Try and find out ... it really changes things. Would like to get it right ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BearFan13 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 There’s 100% a point cap. Want to say it’s 17 but 15 sounds familiar too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, H3llR4z0r said: Is there not a point cap in the district? You would think ... but I have been in meetings where superintendents also get a vote ... and there are fewer and fewer sups each year who never strapped on a helmet and a pair of shoulder pads ... and know absolutely zero about such matters and their impact on things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I want to say there was a 17 point cap last year. I would say it probably stayed the same for this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PantherNation2015 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 43 minutes ago, Tatum_DirtyBird said: I want to say there was a 17 point cap last year. I would say it probably stayed the same for this year. Let’s redo all this with the 17 point cap. Should be quick DOB right? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 I thought I was reading a Chinese road map. Very confusing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 hours ago, Golfingnut said: I believe the point cap is 17. I know there is one but not sure if it's 15 or 17. 17 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 hours ago, DawgNation2015 said: Let’s redo all this with the 17 point cap. Should be quick DOB right? Quick? No such thing ... believe it got more complicated with the cap ... eyes crossed at this point, but here goes ... think it's right. Basics: Four WILL get you in … Three CAN get you in depending on points or head-to-head Who is in? GLADEWATER – IN SABINE – IN Seeds to be decided … if both win GW is #1 and Sabine #2 based on head-to-head Otherwise, see * below AS PER RELAYED, DISTRICT HAS 17 POINT CAP If Mineola wins and Tatum wins: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN * > Seed? If Sabine wins (which is a virtual given), then Minny would enter #2 due to head-to-head win over GW #3 … If Sabine loses also, there would be a three-way tie; in that case, GW #1 (+14), Sabine #2 (0), and Minny #3 (-14) Tatum finishes 3-3 tied with WR and would be IN because of head-to-head win vs WR and WR would stay home Winny at 2-4 is OUT If Mineola wins and Tatum loses: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN as #3 seed West Rusk finishes with three wins and is IN as #4 seed Tatum and Winny are OUT at 2-4 If Mineola loses and Tatum wins: Mineola, Tatum, Winnsboro, and WR all four finish at 3-3 and enters the battle of points At that point, Tatum would be sitting at a -29 (-17/-17/+5) and really no chance to make up that ground limited by the 17 point cap. West Rusk would be left sitting at a +5 (+5/-5/+4) and would require Winny to top Minny by at least +7 to enter the playoffs which would end WR & M in a tie at +5, with WR going due to head-to-head. Anything less would still place Mineola with more positive points than WR's +5 Right now, with Mineola sitting at +12 (-5/+17) and Winnsboro sitting at +13 (+17/-4): > a Winnsboro win of +1 to +6 would put Winny in the #3 seed (at +14 to +20) and Minny in the #4 spot (with at worst a +6 rating) , with WR ending at a +5 and staying home. > a Winnsboro win of +7 or more puts Winny in the #3 seed and WR in at #4 (at 7 would end up with WR and Minny both being at +5 with WR IN and Minny out due to head-to-head) If Mineola loses and Tatum loses: Tatum finishes at 2-4 and is OUT Mineola, Winnsboro, and WR all finish 3-3 and enters the battle of points In this case with Tatum out of the mix, WR would be sitting at a +9 (+5 vs Minny and +4 vs Winny). > With Minny and Winny both sitting at a negative differentials, any Winny win would eliminate Mineola from entering the playoffs > A Winny win of 1-13 points would put Winnsboro in at #4 and WR at #3 > A Winny win of 14-17 points puts Winnsboro is at #3 and WR in at #4 Not satisfied ... see chart below ... if you have a free hour or so, be my guest. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sammy Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 DOB wins the internet award today. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HEFFRO3 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 hours ago, DOB said: Quick? No such thing ... believe it got more complicated with the cap ... eyes crossed at this point, but here goes ... think it's right. Basics: Four WILL get you in … Three CAN get you in depending on points or head-to-head Who is in? GLADEWATER – IN SABINE – IN Seeds to be decided … if both win GW is #1 and Sabine #2 based on head-to-head Otherwise, see * below AS PER RELAYED, DISTRICT HAS 17 POINT CAP If Mineola wins and Tatum wins: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN * > Seed? If Sabine wins (which is a virtual given), then Minny would enter #2 due to head-to-head win over GW #3 … If Sabine loses also, there would be a three-way tie; in that case, GW #1 (+14), Sabine #2 (0), and Minny #3 (-14) Tatum finishes 3-3 tied with WR and would be IN because of head-to-head win vs WR and WR would stay home Winny at 2-4 is OUT If Mineola wins and Tatum loses: Mineola finishes with four wins and is IN as #3 seed West Rusk finishes with three wins and is IN as #4 seed Tatum and Winny are OUT at 2-4 If Mineola loses and Tatum wins: Mineola, Tatum, Winnsboro, and WR all four finish at 3-3 and enters the battle of points At that point, Tatum would be sitting at a -29 (-17/-17/+5) and really no chance to make up that ground limited by the 17 point cap. West Rusk would be left sitting at a +5 (+5/-5/+4) and would require Winny to top Minny by at least +7 to enter the playoffs which would end WR & M in a tie at +5, with WR going due to head-to-head. Anything less would still place Mineola with more positive points than WR's +5 Right now, with Mineola sitting at +12 (-5/+17) and Winnsboro sitting at +13 (+17/-4): > a Winnsboro win of +1 to +6 would put Winny in the #3 seed (at +14 to +20) and Minny in the #4 spot (with at worst a +6 rating) , with WR ending at a +5 and staying home. > a Winnsboro win of +7 or more puts Winny in the #3 seed and WR in at #4 (at 7 would end up with WR and Minny both being at +5 with WR IN and Minny out due to head-to-head) If Mineola loses and Tatum loses: Tatum finishes at 2-4 and is OUT Mineola, Winnsboro, and WR all finish 3-3 and enters the battle of points In this case with Tatum out of the mix, WR would be sitting at a +9 (+5 vs Minny and +4 vs Winny). > With Minny and Winny both sitting at a negative differentials, any Winny win would eliminate Mineola from entering the playoffs > A Winny win of 1-13 points would put Winnsboro in at #4 and WR at #3 > A Winny win of 14-17 points puts Winnsboro is at #3 and WR in at #4 Not satisfied ... see chart below ... if you have a free hour or so, be my guest. If WR,Winny,and Minny all finish at 3-3 and WR beat both, wouldn’t WR be the 3 seed and the winner of the Winny/Minny game be the 4th? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lion54 Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 3 minutes ago, HEFFRO3 said: If WR,Winny,and Minny all finish at 3-3 and WR beat both, wouldn’t WR be the 3 seed and the winner of the Winny/Minny game be the 4th? Yes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 4 minutes ago, HEFFRO3 said: If WR,Winny,and Minny all finish at 3-3 and WR beat both, wouldn’t WR be the 3 seed and the winner of the Winny/Minny game be the 4th? I believe if Mineola beats Winny by 10 or more, they would be 3rd seed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 2 minutes ago, Lion54 said: Yes Not necessarily. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted November 2, 2019 Share Posted November 2, 2019 9 minutes ago, HEFFRO3 said: If WR,Winny,and Minny all finish at 3-3 and WR beat both, wouldn’t WR be the 3 seed and the winner of the Winny/Minny game be the 4th? No. Head to head only applies when there are only two teams. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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