cotton84 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 9 hours ago, Panther89 said: I really hope Spring Hill gets out of this district! Gilmer is the closest town we travel to (15 miles), while everyone else is 35 miles or more! Pleasant Grove and Liberty-Eylau are two hours away! Spring Hill belongs in Class 3A D1 with Gladewater, White Oak, Sabine, and Tatum! If it takes you 2 hours to get to L-E, and even P G, from Spring Hill, then you are driving nowhere near the speed limit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 15 hours ago, Everide2016 said: Tougher skin not needed. I can live without the info until posted by UIL and without paying DCTF. I was just pointing out that I think it's a bit "tacky" for Matt Stepp to be on a free site accusing others of "wanting stuff for free all the time," presumably because he would like to have them go to DCTF and pay him for the information. DCTF provides a nice service to those wanting to spend their money there, but those that would rather search to find this information for free shouldn't have Matt Stepp attempting to shame them for "wanting stuff from free all the time." Of course I'd like people to go to DCTF and pay for the info, its called not working for free and putting value on the service you provide...capitalism is a beautiful thing...there's a market for what we do and thats a good thing....as soon as there's not a market for it then I'll quit doing it...clearly you dont put value in the service provided.... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Everide2016 Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, MattStepp said: Of course I'd like people to go to DCTF and pay for the info, its called not working for free and putting value on the service you provide...capitalism is a beautiful thing...there's a market for what we do and thats a good thing....as soon as there's not a market for it then I'll quit doing it...clearly you dont put value in the service provided.... I previously said, "DCTF provides a nice service to those wanting to spend their money there," and never indicated I don't put value on the service DCTF provided, but I'm not one to pay for it. I'm all for you and DCTF providing the nice service you do and I realize there's a market for it and I also acknowledged it's a "good thing." My issue was your statement of "people wanting stuff for free all the time." Seems like you used a very broad brush with that statement. Very few on Smoaky are wanting stuff for free all the time." Maybe there are some out there upset that information on DCTF that used to be free is no longer free, but I haven't seen much if any complain about it on Smoaky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 I don't think SH will drop to 3A this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Only other place for them in 4A is with Van, Brownsboro, Bullard, Canton Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 @MattStepp thoughts on Carthage dropping? A lot of their fans seem to think they would ask to be D1 and opt up if that happened... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 2 hours ago, Everide2016 said: I previously said, "DCTF provides a nice service to those wanting to spend their money there," and never indicated I don't put value on the service DCTF provided, but I'm not one to pay for it. I'm all for you and DCTF providing the nice service you do and I realize there's a market for it and I also acknowledged it's a "good thing." My issue was your statement of "people wanting stuff for free all the time." Seems like you used a very broad brush with that statement. Very few on Smoaky are wanting stuff for free all the time." Maybe there are some out there upset that information on DCTF that used to be free is no longer free, but I haven't seen much if any complain about it on Smoaky. Yes I've used a broad brush, as someone who covers the entire state of Texas and I listen to people constantly complain about what we put behind a paywall.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 28 minutes ago, dillonpanthers said: @MattStepp thoughts on Carthage dropping? A lot of their fans seem to think they would ask to be D1 and opt up if that happened... there is ZERO chance Carthage would ask to be D1 if they are D2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, dillonpanthers said: @MattStepp thoughts on Carthage dropping? A lot of their fans seem to think they would ask to be D1 and opt up if that happened... If they do drop, I think they go south with Jasper. That district will more than likely lose a couple of teams. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 3 hours ago, MattStepp said: there is ZERO chance Carthage would ask to be D1 if they are D2 That's what I think too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 1 hour ago, swaha said: If they do drop, I think they go south with Jasper. That district will more than likely lose a couple of teams. They are in a tough spot for schools that size. I think they'll go south. But never know I guess Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackem Posted November 3, 2019 Share Posted November 3, 2019 Is there any repercussions for not turning the number in on snapshot day. Wait and see what everyone else turns in and then turn in to avoid a school or a class. Or maybe just wanting to be accurate, know that someone is coming to live in that trailer house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 3 hours ago, sackem said: Is there any repercussions for not turning the number in on snapshot day. Wait and see what everyone else turns in and then turn in to avoid a school or a class. Or maybe just wanting to be accurate, know that someone is coming to live in that trailer house. Pretty sure the UIL has the authority to put a school on probation if they dont submit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickarick Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 2:27 PM, LoboFan07 said: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1lbu6EXQgWNAdSEk2_DLPnO95tSUhMCUpvs3Ep2R31XY/edit#gid=2078951036 Just to show you how many schools are still missing numbers. yea but they have highland parks wrong Highland Park 2209 is what the have on Dave Campbells. Not the 2180 number unless its been revised. So that puts them 6A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 Just now, Slickarick said: yea but they have highland parks wrong Highland Park 2209 is what the have on Dave Campbells. Not the 2180 number unless its been revised. So that puts them 6A. Wanna bet...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Slickarick said: yea but they have highland parks wrong Highland Park 2209 is what the have on Dave Campbells. Not the 2180 number unless its been revised. So that puts them 6A. It's there. They have both. They have a new entry number (2209) and the old number next to it (2180). It hasn't been updated over the weekend though it looks like as DCTF has the Woodlands number up and the excel document doesn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickarick Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, WestHardinfan1 said: Wanna bet...... i was just going off of what they had on the spread sheet and 5A and 6A alignments. I'm thinking the 6A number maybe 2209.5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, Slickarick said: i was just going off of what they had on the spread sheet and 5A and 6A alignments. I'm thinking the 6A number maybe 2209.5 Exactly......following the Highland Park rule...... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickarick Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 1 minute ago, WestHardinfan1 said: You know the Highland Park rule...... Sadly.. I forget how many times years ago they were like 1 or 2 below the number every time. Maybe this is the year they go 6A. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Slickarick said: Sadly.. I forget how many times years ago they were like 1 or 2 below the number every time. Maybe this is the year they go 6A. Don't bet on it........$$$$$ talks....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slickarick Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 1:47 AM, jacketgrad06 said: Cushing may actually be able to compete going d2. Seems like they made strides last year and coming up. Time will tell. Hope so They haven't had a lot of luck sense going 6-4 in 03 and 7-3 in 04. ; 6-4 in 07 and last year. I think that team in 03 and 04 which got third could have done something in this new playoff system. Only been 82-83, and 03-04 seasons for them historically putting back to back over .500 seasons together. Longest stretch 94-97 4 seasons above .500. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted November 4, 2019 Share Posted November 4, 2019 On 11/1/2019 at 1:47 AM, jacketgrad06 said: Cushing may actually be able to compete going d2. Seems like they made strides last year and coming up. Time will tell. I think Cushion would have a hard time competing if they were in 2ADII playing 6 man schedule ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackem Posted November 5, 2019 Share Posted November 5, 2019 270 is the snapshot number for EF 3 less than 2017 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jacketgrad06 Posted November 6, 2019 Share Posted November 6, 2019 On 11/4/2019 at 5:29 PM, KirtFalcon said: I think Cushion would have a hard time competing if they were in 2ADII playing 6 man schedule ... Messed up but funny lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted November 7, 2019 Share Posted November 7, 2019 https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2019/11/07/here-s-what-each-5a-district-could-look-like-with-the-next-uil-realignment-in-february?ref=article_preview_title Stepp has East Texas in a 9 team district. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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