dillonpanthers Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 59 minutes ago, swaha said: That is not a correct statement. Go back and read what I originally wrote. I never said the most diverse...one of the most diverse. There are others more diverse. I'll stand by my statement that PG is the lease diverse out of PG, Texas, Arkansas and LE. But the demographics have shifted in PG. No doubt about that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THSfanatic Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I agree. You can’t say one of the most when it is the least Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 minutes ago, dillonpanthers said: I'll stand by my statement that PG is the lease diverse out of PG, Texas, Arkansas and LE. But the demographics have shifted in PG. No doubt about that. I think you guys read it as most diverse and that is incorrect. Maybe it is the least, but I am too lazy to drill down data of all of the area schools. Most people interpret it as black and white; however, there are other ethnic groups that students identify as. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, THSfanatic said: I agree. You can’t say one of the most when it is the least You totally mis-quoted a statement. You read it as most diverse, when I never stated that. There is a difference in the two statements. If I thought is was the most diverse, I would have said "is the most diverse". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, Pack007 said: I was looking like ### is he talking about lol 2 hours ago, THSfanatic said: Not arguing that. Your statement was the most diverse in Texarkana. It is the least. Not a knock.....just a fact as you said I’m thinking.... 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Want to see diverse? Walk the halls of Texas High, Longview, Marshall, Nacogdoches, Lufkin..... That’s where you’ll see diversity. 70% plus of ANY race is the opposite of diverse. Especially when that percentage is Caucasian. PG is a 4A version of Hallsville and Whitehouse. Not saying that’s a bad thing just saying it’s a statistical fact. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
THSfanatic Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 On 10/27/2019 at 5:43 PM, swaha said: I guess it depends on how one views it. At one time, PG could not take any white transfer students. PG is one of the most diverse schools in Texarkana. It is still predominately white. I think it is around 70% white. Your quote sir There are 4 school systems in Texarkana. You cannot be one of the most and last at the same time. But carry on. Nobody is calling out PG. Just that statement. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: Want to see diverse? Walk the halls of Texas High, Longview, Marshall, Nacogdoches, Lufkin..... That’s where you’ll see diversity. 70% plus of ANY race is the opposite of diverse. Especially when that percentage is Caucasian. PG is a 4A version of Hallsville and Whitehouse. Not saying that’s a bad thing just saying it’s a statistical fact. Also very similar numbers to Spring Hill Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Just now, THSfanatic said: Your quote sir 'Is the most diverse school' means no other school is or diverse as PG. 'Is one of the most diverse schools" means there are other schools that are probably more diverse than PG. Whether one agrees with me or not, is a matter of opinion. My issue is do not quote that I said PG is the most diverse school. I never said that. I view diversity as multiple ethnic groups, not just black and white. Evidently, other publications agree that PG is diverse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack007 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, THSfanatic said: Your quote sir There are 4 school systems in Texarkana. You cannot be one of the most and last at the same time. But carry on. Nobody is calling out PG. Just that statement. I had to go back and look like maybe i got something wrong. He definitely said it.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 2 hours ago, THSfanatic said: Not arguing that. Your statement was the most diverse in Texarkana. It is the least. Not a knock.....just a fact as you said This is the statement that is incorrect.....the most diverse in Texarkana. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 6 minutes ago, swaha said: 'Is the most diverse school' means no other school is or diverse as PG. 'Is one of the most diverse schools" means there are other schools that are probably more diverse than PG. Whether one agrees with me or not, is a matter of opinion. My issue is do not quote that I said PG is the most diverse school. I never said that. I view diversity as multiple ethnic groups, not just black and white. Evidently, other publications agree that PG is diverse. It doesn’t matter. PG could have Asians, Pacific Islanders, Tasmanian, Japanese and 15 other races that no other school has and it STILL wouldn’t make it diverse. Why? Because even with all those other races.... it’s still has a single race in the 70s percentile. At the end of the day PG is 70-plus percent Caucasian. Why? Because of math. Period! That 30% could include 100 different races....and PG STILL would not be diverse. It would still be a WIDELY majority school. Why? Because of math. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 3 hours ago, dillonpanthers said: For reference Schooldigger.com shows: PG high school: 74%white, 13%af. American, 6% hisp. Texas High: 41% white, 40% af am, 13% hisp LE: 51% af am , 38%white, 6% hisp Arkansas High: 52% af am, 40% white, 5% hisp Definitely wouldn't call PG one of the most diverse All of these I listed have 3 ethnic groups stats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mavchamp said: It doesn’t matter. PG could have Asians, Pacific Islanders, Tasmanian, Japanese and 15 other races that no other school has and it STILL wouldn’t make it diverse. Why? Because even with all those other races.... it’s still has a single race in the 70s percentile. At the end of the day PG is 70-plus percent Caucasian. Why? Because of math. Period! That 30% could include 100 different races....and PG STILL would not be diverse. It would still be a WIDELY majority school. Why? Because of math. This Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 hours ago, Destry said: Hope top of 2a is 244 It won't be that high ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pack007 Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: It doesn’t matter. PG could have Asians, Pacific Islanders, Tasmanian, Japanese and 15 other races that no other school has and it STILL wouldn’t make it diverse. Why? Because even with all those other races.... it’s still has a single race in the 70s percentile. At the end of the day PG is 70-plus percent Caucasian. Why? Because of math. Period! That 30% could include 100 different races....and PG STILL would not be diverse. It would still be a WIDELY majority school. Why? Because of math. Exactly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 minute ago, Mavchamp said: It doesn’t matter. PG could have Asians, Pacific Islanders, Tasmanian, Japanese and 15 other races that no other school has and it STILL wouldn’t make it diverse. Why? Because even with all those other races.... it’s still has a single race in the 70s percentile. At the end of the day PG is 70-plus percent Caucasian. Why? Because of math. Period! That 30% could include 100 different races....and PG STILL would not be diverse. It would still be a WIDELY majority school. Why? Because of math. Again, my argument is not any of this. Not you, but Do not quote that I said PG is the most diverse school in Texarkana. That is incorrect. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 4 minutes ago, dillonpanthers said: All of these I listed have 3 ethnic groups stats. TEA lists 7 for PG and T High. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
swaha Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 19 minutes ago, Mavchamp said: It doesn’t matter. PG could have Asians, Pacific Islanders, Tasmanian, Japanese and 15 other races that no other school has and it STILL wouldn’t make it diverse. Why? Because even with all those other races.... it’s still has a single race in the 70s percentile. At the end of the day PG is 70-plus percent Caucasian. Why? Because of math. Period! That 30% could include 100 different races....and PG STILL would not be diverse. It would still be a WIDELY majority school. Why? Because of math. Again, all opinions. I believe it is the Wall Street Journal that has very good interactive map of all of the US schools. For PG, it is rated newly diversed. I do not remember all of the criteria that went in to these ratings, but I would think it came from the Department of Education for the Wall Street Journal to have the data. Correction...Washington Post. Very insightful and informative for school diversity data. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 1 hour ago, swaha said: Again, all opinions. Opinions??? No sir. They are mathematical FACTS. Numbers don’t lie. So PG is more diverse than say Whitehouse or Hallsville.... Spring Hill . Or South Oak Cliff or Houston Yates. Or Brownsville Rivera or El Paso Bellaire. I’ll accept those mathematical facts. They ALL have a LARGE population of a single race. Therefore the are NOT diverse. Even though they are majority minority. So yes.... PG is in fact more diverse than any of them and others like them. But let’s compare PG to say Killeen HS... or Temple... or Waco.... Denton... or Odessa Permian... or Longview... or Midland... Lufkin... Amarillo....Greenville.... Huntsville....Marshall... Corsicana.... hell... Carthage... Henderson... list goes on and on and on PG is in FACT LESS diverse than any of these... and in fact less diverse than most schools in East Texas. Thats not opinion. It’s a mathematical fact. And I can post the numbers to everyone of them to prove the MATH is factual. But yes. Point of view matters. PG IS more diverse than some. But it is unequivocally less diverse than most. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ramfanforever Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 Joaquin # is at 184 what division will we be in Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 9 hours ago, Nacwagons said: 8-5A Texas High Sulphur Springs Marshall Hallsville Pine Tree Lindale Mount Pleasant Greenville 9-5A Nacogdoches Whitehouse Jacksonville Forney Terrell Crandall Ennis Corsicana So i looked and could'nt find Lindale's #, are we sure they are staying up? If so then Kaufman and Tx High are the wild cards in this. Any chance they split Dallas Seagoville from the Dallas distirct and move them with Kaufman Forney Ennis Corsicana Crandall Terrell The top two make sense.... with or without Texas High dropping. Then again....so does that bottom one....which would eviscerate the Southern ETX 5A district. where would Jax, Nac, and WH go then? Easier to slide The I-30 schools together. How about this: 8-5A Texas High Sulphur Springs Terrell Forney Royse City Mount Pleasant Greenville 9-5A Nacogdoches Whitehouse Jacksonville Hallsville Marshall Lindale Pine tree I say RC stays D2 to make this happen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 This would be fun unless your Texas High Texas High Mount Pleasant Nacogdoches Whitehouse Jacksonville Hallsville Marshall Sulphur Springs Pine tree Lindale Terrell Forney Crandall Corsicana Ennis Kaufman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sackem Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 anybody compiled a list of snapshot numbers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
justafan Posted October 29, 2019 Share Posted October 29, 2019 I think it will be somewhere around 235-335 for 3-a d2. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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