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Defense: The Good/Bad/Ugly of Greater East Texas


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On 11/8/2019 at 8:10 AM, blackflag79 said:

These numbers are always impressive, but most of the time these numbers mean absolutely nothing, except to the team itself.  Strength of schedule is more important than these numbers.

Thank you, exactly what I said about Duncanville and 2 people pooped on my post.🤡😂

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On 11/4/2019 at 4:41 PM, DOB said:

With one week to play in the regular season, this is how they stack up ....

TOP END 10:

Diboll ....................... 9g ...........   4.4 ppg

Longview ................ 9g ............   7.9 ppg

Alto ......................... 9g ............   7.9 ppg

Carthage ................. 9g ............   8.6 ppg

Malakoff ................. 9g ............ 10.0 ppg

Newton ................... 9g ...........  10.9 ppg

Anderson-Shiro ....... 9g ...........  10.9 ppg (Anderson-Shiro and Newton square off this week)

Jasper .................... 7g ...........   11.3 ppg

West Orange-Stark .. 7g ...........  11.7 ppg

Joaquin ..................  9g ...........  12.3 ppg

BEST IN STATE:  Duncanville with 33 points allowed in 9 games for an average of 3.7 ppg;  Diboll with 40 points allowed is 3rd best in state behind Duncanville and San Saba (9g 37pts 4.1ppg)

 

BOTTOM END 10:

Redwater ...............  9g ............ 49.6 ppg

Queen City .............  9g ............ 49.0 ppg

Huntington ............. 9g ............ 48.6 ppg

Liberty-Eylau .......... 9g ............. 48.4 ppg

Kountze ................. 8g ............. 46.5 ppg

Kirbyville ................ 9g ............. 45.1 ppg

Quitman ................ 9g ............. 44.1 ppg

Overton ................ 9g .............. 43.5 ppg

Chap Hill ............... 9g .............. 43.0 ppg

Center ................... 9g ............. 42.3 ppg

Interestingly, two of these teams will be in the playoffs, with one of these two playing for a share of the district title this week vs someone in the Best Top 10.

Oddly, both of these on the list are from the same five-team district.

WORST IN STATE:  6A Pasadena Rayburn has yielded 590 points in 9 games (with one to play) for an average of 65.0 ppg

 

 

Never ever thought I'd see Liberty Eulau make such a terrible list

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On 11/8/2019 at 8:10 AM, blackflag79 said:

These numbers are always impressive, but most of the time these numbers mean absolutely nothing, except to the team itself.  Strength of schedule is more important than these numbers.

Point taken and it's a good one ... however, the numbers may mean nothing to us; but since no one - not college football or the NFL - plays a universal schedule - these numbers still get thrown around in poll and media blitzes from ESPN to game commentators ... LSU & Baylor are undefeated - are they equal? No, but they still use numbers like this in vogue to rank offenses and defenses.  Texas is ranked near the bottom in passing yards allowed - it doesn't take into consideration that the secondary has been decimated by injuries and the Big 12 throws the ball all over the lot compared to other conferences ... 

The NCAA has a rule that to qualify for a bowl game, you must win six games ... A&M became bowl-eligible with their sixth win a couple of weeks ago - three of those wins came against Lamar, UTSA, and Texas State - hardly national powers, but they still count according to the NCAA ... Their freshman runningback, Isaac Spiller, will probably end up in the A&M record book as one of the top freshman ground gainers in Aggie history.  He has 667 rushing yards right now and three 100+ yards games ... next year, what the Media Guide will not mention is that 65.8% of those yards, and the three 100+ yeard games, to this point came against Lamar, UTSA, and Texas State.  In any sport, numbers are numbers regardless of who you achieve them against.  That doesn't make it right in reference to competition level - but they go down in the book regardless.  Is what it is.

Stats are stats ... and as I learned in my Statistics class in college - If you totally believe in statistics, then you could put your feet in a frozen bucket of ice and then set your hair on fire, then you should be perfectly comfortable.

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1 hour ago, DOB said:

Point taken and it's a good one ... however, the numbers may mean nothing to us; but since no one - not college football or the NFL - plays a universal schedule - these numbers still get thrown around in poll and media blitzes from ESPN to game commentators ... LSU & Baylor are undefeated - are they equal? No, but they still use numbers like this in vogue to rank offenses and defenses.  Texas is ranked near the bottom in passing yards allowed - it doesn't take into consideration that the secondary has been decimated by injuries and the Big 12 throws the ball all over the lot compared to other conferences ... 

The NCAA has a rule that to qualify for a bowl game, you must win six games ... A&M became bowl-eligible with their sixth win a couple of weeks ago - three of those wins came against Lamar, UTSA, and Texas State - hardly national powers, but they still count according to the NCAA ... Their freshman runningback, Isaac Spiller, will probably end up in the A&M record book as one of the top freshman ground gainers in Aggie history.  He has 667 rushing yards right now and three 100+ yards games ... next year, what the Media Guide will not mention is that 65.8% of those yards, and the three 100+ yeard games, to this point came against Lamar, UTSA, and Texas State.  In any sport, numbers are numbers regardless of who you achieve them against.  That doesn't make it right in reference to competition level - but they go down in the book regardless.  Is what it is.

Stats are stats ... and as I learned in my Statistics class in college - If you totally believe in statistics, then you could put your feet in a frozen bucket of ice and then set your hair on fire, then you should be perfectly comfortable.

🤣  At that last sentence...

You're definitely right about college statistics..., mainly because they don't have a true playoff system.  One of these days, though....

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