DB2point0 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 hours ago, Golfingnut said: Same as buying a CD or DVD and distributing to others that haven't paid for it. Like it or not still wrong. Those numbers he got from Uil were free. He’s charging people for his thoughts and opinion. There’s a difference between that and pirating a multi-million dollar produced movie. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 26 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Those numbers he got from Uil were free. He’s charging people for his thoughts and opinion. There’s a difference between that and pirating a multi-million dollar produced movie. See thats where you made an assumption that was incorrect, I didnt get them from the UIL.....the UIL doesnt release them until Dec 6...I called, texted and e-mailed every UIL school to get those numbers early no one else aside from Carl Padilla (who charges a heavy premium for his service) does that...in case you didnt know thats over 1000 schools....so yes that took some time and effort to track down those numbers.... The great thing about capitalism is that the market dictates things...if people choose to pay for my thoughts an opinions, clearly there's a market for it...but when people take it and put it up for free somewhere else it skews that market....again I dont have a problem with you or anyone else choosing not to pay to read some of the content I post..thats your choice on how you choose to spend your money..I'm just asking for common courtesy to not have our premium content taken and posted here (or anywhere else) for free...let the market dictate if that content should be premium or not....if people dont want to pay to read the content they won't subscribe and maybe we'll have to re-evaluate things... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 34 minutes ago, MattStepp said: See thats where you made an assumption that was incorrect, I didnt get them from the UIL.....the UIL doesnt release them until Dec 6...I called, texted and e-mailed every UIL school to get those numbers early no one else aside from Carl Padilla (who charges a heavy premium for his service) does that...in case you didnt know thats over 1000 schools....so yes that took some time and effort to track down those numbers.... The great thing about capitalism is that the market dictates things...if people choose to pay for my thoughts an opinions, clearly there's a market for it...but when people take it and put it up for free somewhere else it skews that market....again I dont have a problem with you or anyone else choosing not to pay to read some of the content I post..thats your choice on how you choose to spend your money..I'm just asking for common courtesy to not have our premium content taken and posted here (or anywhere else) for free...let the market dictate if that content should be premium or not....if people dont want to pay to read the content they won't subscribe and maybe we'll have to re-evaluate things... Congrats!! You want a cookie? Or $5.99 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 16 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Congrats!! You want a cookie? Or $5.99 Chocolate chip..send me a dozen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, MattStepp said: Chocolate chip..send me a dozen Then I’d be doing all the work and have to charge you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Then I’d be doing all the work and have to charge you If the cookies are legit I'd pay a fair price for them....thats how capitalism works Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 7 minutes ago, MattStepp said: If the cookies are legit I'd pay a fair price for them....thats how capitalism works But you’d most likely want to share them though and I wouldn’t mind that one bit. It’d prolly get me more cookie sales. That’s how sales works. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 5 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: But you’d most likely want to share them though and I wouldn’t mind that one bit. It’d prolly get me more cookie sales. That’s how sales works. No I'm pretty stingy with things I like...I'd keep the cookies for myself and tell my friends to buy their own...but if you are in the cookie business and you dont mind someone sharing then thats your decision....I do mind people sharing my content.... 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golfingnut Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, DB2point0 said: Those numbers he got from Uil were free. He’s charging people for his thoughts and opinion. There’s a difference between that and pirating a multi-million dollar produced movie. Pirating is still pirating no matter what the product is. In fact, in this particular area of discussion I would say Matt's work is valued more than many multi-million dollar productions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 3 hours ago, MattStepp said: No I'm pretty stingy with things I like...I'd keep the cookies for myself and tell my friends to buy their own...but if you are in the cookie business and you dont mind someone sharing then thats your decision....I do mind people sharing my content.... Once I sell it I don’t care what they do with it. To think people won’t share info after they paid for it is silly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 39 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Once I sell it I don’t care what they do with it. To think people won’t share info after they paid for it is silly I never said they wont share..I can't stop people from asking but I can ask for common courtesy....if they choose not to not much I can do about it but I can at least ask and maybe some won't do it.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted November 26, 2019 Share Posted November 26, 2019 2 hours ago, MattStepp said: I never said they wont share..I can't stop people from asking but I can ask for common courtesy....if they choose not to not much I can do about it but I can at least ask and maybe some won't do it.... Then why get on here and whine and cry about it? Especially when there’s not much you can do about it. It should come with the territory. It happens on recruiting sites, team sites, etc... very few people will pay for predictions or opinions. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NavyDad0526 Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 Funny thing about all this is that you can never tell what the UIL will do. What most of us thinks makes perfect sense the UIL will do something totally different. It’s definitely fun to toss it around and discuss it though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 hours ago, DB2point0 said: Then why get on here and whine and cry about it? Especially when there’s not much you can do about it. It should come with the territory. It happens on recruiting sites, team sites, etc... very few people will pay for predictions or opinions. I just said I can ask people to stop doing it...and you'd be surprised there are some decent people out there that will stop doing it....weird right? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlah Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 15 hours ago, MattStepp said: I just said I can ask people to stop doing it...and you'd be surprised there are some decent people out there that will stop doing it....weird right? Report it to a moderator . Under the Smoaky.com rules * Reprints of material from other web sites (pay or free) that clearly violate the expressed copyright of that material or site. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 2 minutes ago, BlahBlah said: Report it to a moderator . Under the Smoaky.com rules * Reprints of material from other web sites (pay or free) that clearly violate the expressed copyright of that material or site. I'd rather ask nicely before doing that...but I've asked now...lol 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionpride08 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 4 minutes ago, MattStepp said: I'd rather ask nicely before doing that...but I've asked now...lol I got a question.... What is the difference between doin this and yall making people pay for the dave campbell/ap rankings only for a local newpaper or news cast putting it out there for thousands to see free or little to no charge at all... Its the same correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 8 minutes ago, lionpride08 said: I got a question.... What is the difference between doin this and yall making people pay for the dave campbell/ap rankings only for a local newpaper or news cast putting it out there for thousands to see free or little to no charge at all... Its the same correct? We dont make people pay for our state rankings (1-10 or 1-25 in 6A) those are free...the computer rankings 1-256 or whatever those are part of the subscriber package and differ from the state rankings compiled by our staff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionpride08 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 33 minutes ago, MattStepp said: We dont make people pay for our state rankings (1-10 or 1-25 in 6A) those are free...the computer rankings 1-256 or whatever those are part of the subscriber package and differ from the state rankings compiled by our staff I tried to look up 3a rankings and it would say i needed to subscribe to see it... Just wanted to see the top 10 but wouldnt let me Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 12 minutes ago, lionpride08 said: I tried to look up 3a rankings and it would say i needed to subscribe to see it... Just wanted to see the top 10 but wouldnt let me We dont do a top ten during the playoffs because the only thing that matters is the brackets.....so the rankings page is blank now, but its free of charge...the computer still ranks teams because it gives spreads etc..thats subscriber content https://www.texasfootball.com/rankings/?ref=nav Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lionpride08 Posted November 27, 2019 Author Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, MattStepp said: We dont do a top ten during the playoffs because the only thing that matters is the brackets.....so the rankings page is blank now, but its free of charge...the computer still ranks teams because it gives spreads etc..thats subscriber content https://www.texasfootball.com/rankings/?ref=nav Sorry i didnt mean as in now im talking about during the regular season not playoffs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 1 hour ago, lionpride08 said: Sorry i didnt mean as in now im talking about during the regular season not playoffs The rankings in the regular season are free, we release them at noon Monday's on Texas Football Today and they are available on the site during the season....sounds to me like you are going to the wrong place... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supermaroon Posted November 27, 2019 Share Posted November 27, 2019 On 11/24/2019 at 9:50 PM, Bulldognation1 said: Was hearing Cooper was probably gonna drop back into 2A a while back. Guess not lol From what i am gathering it looks like cooper will be the cutoff number opposite of the Gilmer and Highland Park rule Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 11 hours ago, MattStepp said: We dont do a top ten during the playoffs because the only thing that matters is the brackets.....so the rankings page is blank now, but its free of charge...the computer still ranks teams because it gives spreads etc..thats subscriber content https://www.texasfootball.com/rankings/?ref=nav I'm a member and have been having trouble seeing the rankings. I could see them last week but not this week? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tiger1995 Posted November 28, 2019 Share Posted November 28, 2019 On 11/21/2019 at 8:54 PM, 4to3 said: District 10-3A D2 with Arp, Edgewood, Grand Saline, Harmony, Quitman, Troup, West Rusk, Winona 8 team district? I don't see that happened. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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