Tatum_DirtyBird Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 51 minutes ago, playactionpass39 said: Thank you Sir, I appreciate that. I understand the map making process. Just curious if our dedicated District/Region map builder would be supplying us with his wisdom this realignment. I know what you meant but couldn’t resist. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, MattStepp said: Celina's growth hasn't quite hit yet...they passed that bond now preparing for the growth https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2019/12/03/here-is-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-uil-classification-cutoffs?ref=article_preview_title I don't have a dog in the fight. Just seems very odd to me that town growing like they are only increased by 42 kids over 2 years. Much smaller towns that are growing much slower have had added more kids in that time. From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celina,_Texas#Growth Celina is among the fastest growing cities in the nation. It is currently averaging 1,300 new home permits a year with an ultimate build-out population of around 350,000 people. The City recently adopted its Downtown Master Plan, creating the vision for Celina's historic downtown and its ensuing renaissance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 Again, I'm not sure about some of the geography but here it is.....lol District 9: Clarksville Cumby Detroit Maud Quinlan Boles James Bowie District 10: Cushing Lovelady Mt. Enterprise Tenaha West Sabine Overton District 11: Wortham Iola Bremond Mart Cross Roads Frost District 12: Colmesneil Deweyville Evadale High Island Hull-Daisetta Sabine Pass Burkeville Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 11 minutes ago, ObiOne said: I don't have a dog in the fight. Just seems very odd to me that town growing like they are only increased by 42 kids over 2 years. Much smaller towns that are growing much slower have had added more kids in that time. From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celina,_Texas#Growth Celina is among the fastest growing cities in the nation. It is currently averaging 1,300 new home permits a year with an ultimate build-out population of around 350,000 people. The City recently adopted its Downtown Master Plan, creating the vision for Celina's historic downtown and its ensuing renaissance. Checking the TEA enrollment reports; you can see growth so its possible just have a smaller class or two.... Celina HS 2018-2019 844 2017-2018 792 2016-2017 733 2015-2016 697 of note, last year's 8th grade class at Celina JH (which would impact this year's snapshot # at the HS) was 211 students....while 7th grade is 229 and 6th grade is 202..... Southern portions of Celina which get the growth first since its closer to Dallas are located in Prosper ISD...and Prosper has over 4k in the HS right now and they are opening HS #2 next year Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 19 minutes ago, ObiOne said: I don't have a dog in the fight. Just seems very odd to me that town growing like they are only increased by 42 kids over 2 years. Much smaller towns that are growing much slower have had added more kids in that time. From Wiki: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Celina,_Texas#Growth Celina is among the fastest growing cities in the nation. It is currently averaging 1,300 new home permits a year with an ultimate build-out population of around 350,000 people. The City recently adopted its Downtown Master Plan, creating the vision for Celina's historic downtown and its ensuing renaissance. I mentioned this either earlier in this thread or in another realignment thread, but the VAST majority of those new homes are being built with Celina mailing addresses, but fall within Prosper's school district. So the growth is certainly happening, residential and commercial, but that growth hasn't necessarily precipitated into a boom in the Celina ISD population. It will come eventually, there's no doubt. And I would suspect Celina would bump back to Div. I in two years, but perhaps not if the numbers make another big jump, hard to say at this point. Celina was BARELY over the Div. II cutoff last time, so maybe it shouldn't be surprising that they dropped again. I for one thought they would stay Div. I, but with the cutoff being pushed so high, makes perfect sense to me that they were underneath the Div. I line this time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrankyOldMan Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 (edited) . Edited September 26, 2022 by CrankyOldMan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BudKilmersProtege Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 On 12/3/2019 at 11:27 AM, highschoolfootball99 said: Fairfield Eagles moving down to 3A D1 Groesbeck, Teague, and Fairfield are all but guaranteed to be together, it's just a matter of whether they head towards Waco, Dallas, or East Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 I wonder how much success teams have had dropping either a Division or classification. Henderson won its first year 3a. Marshall , Nac, Carthage , Chapel Hill. all struggled in the first year. Lufkin , JT , Atlanta didn't have Championships. It is more difficult to win moving up a class than dropping. Most hope for being competitive aka Lindale. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
playactionpass39 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Tatum_DirtyBird said: I know what you meant but couldn’t resist. Lol I know, just could not let it go without a response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
d0tc0m Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 20 minutes ago, Footballalltheway said: District 7 4A-1 lost 3 teams. Celina, Sanger & N. Lamar leaving Anna, Argyle, Paris & Melissa. Do they just roll with 4 teams or maybe move Gainesville to that district? No other teams really make any sense to add it seems geographically. Celina came out a huge winner. They will roll next year. Celina will certainly benefit. They'll roll through district play the next two years, probably. But the postseason will still be hyper competitive, especially if PG and Gilmer stay in Region II. China Spring joining that mix will make Region II that much more difficult as well. The Bobcats will still have to run a gauntlet to get out of Region II, that gauntlet just won't include Argyle, La Vega, Melissa, Stephenville, Brownwood, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwightSchrute Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 cool stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DwightSchrute Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 https://drive.google.com/open?id=1WZYH-eKWDRdKozkfCdau01xs_cWgRc7l&usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ru1MBboOzNCMuCuCCu4g5RkUJFZ0AaZn&usp=sharing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 https://www.texasfootball.com/article/2019/12/03/here-is-what-you-need-to-know-about-the-uil-classification-cutoffs?ref=article_preview_title Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 23 hours ago, Eagleborn said: Y’all lose to 3AD2 schools. Y’all won’t be an issue for Carthage. Man I felt that burn. Straight savage 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 54 minutes ago, playactionpass39 said: I know, just could not let it go without a response. So you gotta have the last word huh? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 5 hours ago, Champ1000 said: Any moves in or move down. Seems like the same. Atlanta Gw were big ones last time. Some of us are hoping that Gladewater, Jeffy, Tatum, and Atlanta are put together this go around. That would be a fun District. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 2 minutes ago, Tatum_DirtyBird said: Some of us are hoping that Gladewater, Jeffy, Tatum, and Atlanta are put together this go around. That would be a fun District. Isn't that the old 16 3a days . Any idea on the pre season . West Rusk seemed like it could turn into a rivalry. Spring Hill used to be and Henderson might give you a call since you missed the playoffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 High Island has said they will play up this year and Burkeville always plays up...... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tatum_DirtyBird Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 26 minutes ago, Champ1000 said: Isn't that the old 16 3a days . Any idea on the pre season . West Rusk seemed like it could turn into a rivalry. Spring Hill used to be and Henderson might give you a call since you missed the playoffs. When I played, 16-3A was ... (if I remember correctly) Tatum Gladewater Spring Hill White Oak West Rusk Sabine and yes, Hennason May be giving us a call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 1 hour ago, Champ1000 said: I wonder how much success teams have had dropping either a Division or classification. Henderson won its first year 3a. Marshall , Nac, Carthage , Chapel Hill. all struggled in the first year. Lufkin , JT , Atlanta didn't have Championships. It is more difficult to win moving up a class than dropping. Most hope for being competitive aka Lindale. It just depends I feel. Marshall was struggling their last couple years in 5A before they dropped....then had one of the worst seasons in program history when they finally did drop with an 1-9 season. They probably go 0-10 in 2002 if they're 5A. But two years later, they go to back to back State Title games. Texas High had won 2 games in three years, and hadn't had a winning season in 6 years before they dropped. First season they have a winning year and second they make the post season. Nac was awful in 5A, and remained awful once they dropped. Henderson had not had a winning season in 8 years before they dropped and immediately won State. Do they have a winning season in 4A? Who knows. Longview dropped and reached back to back state title games their first go around. But that was book ended by trips to the 5A State Quarterfinals and 5A State Semi-Finals. John Tyler has more than had their success in 4A/5A, just can't get over the hump. Then there's Lufkin, who can barely win one playoff game now a days. I feel like there's definitely some merit in the dropping classes = succcess myth. But it's more about the program in general and the participation. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalman Posted December 4, 2019 Share Posted December 4, 2019 12 hours ago, Champ1000 said: I would start with some DoD teams if you could. Lindale and. maybe Henderson. Alvarado was kinda far so maybe the metroplex . Heritage or someone like that wouldn't be bad. I agree. I wish we would schedule Henderson. I like the match up. Lindale has become a pretty good rival game so I bet we keep that one. I'd like to see Gilmer too. Oh well, they don't ask me lol. The old Canton games were a good rival at one time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OldSchool89 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Just for information. There isn’t a school called Boles Home. That was children’s home that is now called Arms of Hope. The school is Boles I.S.D. There is no affiliation with the children’s home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 Lol....shows how long ago I was around them... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 East Tx teams what they might look like 94a Hertiage Wax Life Athens Mabank Kaufman 104a Henderson Kilgore Lindale Chapel Hill Palestine 114a Livingston Hargrave Splendor Vidor Little cypress mariceville Houston. north Forest Houston Furr 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Champ1000 Posted December 5, 2019 Share Posted December 5, 2019 I believe they go two 5 team Districts and one big southern District. The Houston teams may go a district all together but Houston already had a full District of their own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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