MattStepp Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, VonG said: You don't know Lee then. My guess is you dont know Colleyville too well....Lee has some old money but the sheer numbers of folks with money isn't anything close to Colleyville 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MeanGreenDogs64 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 Colleyville has more money than Lee. Several current and former professional athletes live in the area. Plenty of politics and old whites in the area. It's essentially Southlake. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 40 minutes ago, MattStepp said: My guess is you dont know Colleyville too well....Lee has some old money but the sheer numbers of folks with money isn't anything close to Colleyville I'm not concerned with Colleyville. I was just speaking on Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 48 minutes ago, MattStepp said: My guess is you dont know Colleyville too well....Lee has some old money but the sheer numbers of folks with money isn't anything close to Colleyville Agree. Lee will be a totally different environment than Heritage or Cedar Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R E LEE Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 JT and their theories/infatuation about Lee. It must be true because someone spoke it into existence on Smoaky. I never heard Owens complain about old money for the 15 years he was the coach. I don't think it exists.. Just an attempt to take a side jab at your cross town school. And the comment that there "won't be any talent" at Lee after next year doesn't meet the smell test. The largest school in East Texas that is growing with a demographically balanced population doesn't have any talent?? Give me a break. As I have said before, a great program isn't built on shiny objects. I can think of multiple players over the last 15 years that were middle school studs that never even finished in either program. They will have plenty of talent to win with a coach like Coach Willis.  1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I know Cedar Park had a great defense when they won state in 2012. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, R E LEE said: JT and their theories/infatuation about Lee. It must be true because someone spoke it into existence on Smoaky. I never heard Owens complain about old money for the 15 years he was the coach. I don't think it exists.. Just an attempt to take a side jab at your cross town school. And the comment that there "won't be any talent" at Lee after next year doesn't meet the smell test. The largest school in East Texas that is growing with a demographically balanced population doesn't have any talent?? Give me a break. As I have said before, a great program isn't built on shiny objects. I can think of multiple players over the last 15 years that were middle school studs that never even finished in either program. They will have plenty of talent to win with a coach like Coach Willis.  I feel what you are saying. But you got to be crazy if you don't think there are politics at Lee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R E LEE Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 I'll give you this- there are probably a few people left in S Tyler that were not content with a .451 winning percentage or a .365 winning percentage. A solid admin in place that supports athletics at both schools, direct middle school feeders and an academic B rating (that is looking like it could be an A next year) bode well for the future for Lee. Building on some of the things Traylor was able to do and playing good football should quiet them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOleBoy73 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 20 hours ago, VonG said: I don't know about much better facilities. Lee is in the process of getting a brand new school and Rose Stadium has definitely been updated. But like you said, you are not familiar with either situation. I was not intending for that to come off as a negative comment. I grew up on the south side of Tyler. Not familiar with the current Tyler Lee situation, but I do know that the facilities are not great. Rose Stadium is definitely much improved. CHHS has a pretty sweet indoor and looks to be a nice place to live. Just curious if anyone had any insight. I wish Coach Willis nothing but luck. Would love to see Tyler Lee make a deep run. I appreciate the feedback though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoodOleBoy73 Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 8 hours ago, MattStepp said: 1) He got a nice raise 2) Cost of living 3) He will have to play politics at Lee, but NOTHING like at Colleyville 4) Football is king in East Texas not at Colleyville 5) Coordinators teaching load is much, much better 6) Middle school setup is better 7) He's maxed out Colleyville; probably not much left to accomplish 8 ) If Tyler gets the indoor facilities that are talked about there will be no difference in the facilities 9) Did I mention that raise? Now, this is the information I was looking for. Appreciate you Stepp! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, R E LEE said: JT and their theories/infatuation about Lee. It must be true because someone spoke it into existence on Smoaky. I never heard Owens complain about old money for the 15 years he was the coach. I don't think it exists.. Just an attempt to take a side jab at your cross town school. And the comment that there "won't be any talent" at Lee after next year doesn't meet the smell test. The largest school in East Texas that is growing with a demographically balanced population doesn't have any talent?? Give me a break. As I have said before, a great program isn't built on shiny objects. I can think of multiple players over the last 15 years that were middle school studs that never even finished in either program. They will have plenty of talent to win with a coach like Coach Willis.  When the W’s come let me know. I mean coming over and drawing the line into butler college to take JT players is a great start . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, R E LEE said: JT and their theories/infatuation about Lee. It must be true because someone spoke it into existence on Smoaky. I never heard Owens complain about old money for the 15 years he was the coach. I don't think it exists.. Just an attempt to take a side jab at your cross town school. And the comment that there "won't be any talent" at Lee after next year doesn't meet the smell test. The largest school in East Texas that is growing with a demographically balanced population doesn't have any talent?? Give me a break. As I have said before, a great program isn't built on shiny objects. I can think of multiple players over the last 15 years that were middle school studs that never even finished in either program. They will have plenty of talent to win with a coach like Coach Willis.  High enrollment doesnt mean you have high talent. See Plano ISD. I've seen first hand whats at Tyler Lee. Outside of that 2022 group with Miller and Donnell....not too impressed. And according to the JT fans, JT will get majority of the good incoming 9th graders. So doesnt appear that class will have much either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R E LEE Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 15 minutes ago, ANTI said: And according to the JT fans Tyler is like Plano? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 4 hours ago, VonG said: I feel what you are saying. But you got to be crazy if you don't think there are politics at Lee. There are politics at every school......most coaches go into it knowing that...but the politics at a place like Colleyville are much, much larger than at Tyler Lee....Lee will be similar to Cedar Park and the only reason WIllis in essence left Cedar Park was that Leander ISD's pay is not good..there's more people with money and more money than at Lee....as someone said Colleyville is essentially Southlake without the football success... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ANTI Posted January 31, 2020 Share Posted January 31, 2020 1 hour ago, R E LEE said: Tyler is like Plano? I said high enrollment doesnt automatically mean you have alot of talent. Lee has a good soon to be JR group. What else? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, MattStepp said: ....Lee will be similar to Cedar Park The demographics of Lee and Cedar Park are very different... maybe you meant same as far as politics, etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 Just now, dillonpanthers said: The demographics of Lee and Cedar Park are very different... For reference: Cedar Park 68% white 20% Hispanic 7% Asian  Lee: 40% white 28% Af.Am. 27% Hispanic  Colleyville Heritage: 56% white 18% Hispanic 15% Asian Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattStepp Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, dillonpanthers said: The demographics of Lee and Cedar Park are very different... maybe you meant same as far as politics, etc Yes....Cedar Park folks are a little more laid back...fewer helicopter parents etc......they have their issues too but most of that kinda thing is in other places... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dillonpanthers Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 19 minutes ago, MattStepp said: Yes....Cedar Park folks are a little more laid back...fewer helicopter parents etc......they have their issues too but most of that kinda thing is in other places... No doubt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I'm a boomer for a Lil ol 2a school, but in my heart, I always pray a little for JT, Lee and Marshall and pine-tree.. I believe that for your area to really shine, the bigger brothers in our region must excel. So I wish Mr coach one helluva freshman season at Lee. Chain out.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VonG Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, upullinmychain said: I'm a boomer for a Lil ol 2a school, but in my heart, I always pray a little for JT, Lee and Marshall and pine-tree.. I believe that for your area to really shine, the bigger brothers in our region must excel. So I wish Mr coach one helluva freshman season at Lee. Chain out.. You don't pray for the other big schools? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 I think we'd all prefer to see East Texas 5A and 6A do well. We've all had problems with consistency in the playoffs with the exception of Longview. JT, Marshall, Lufkin.... have all had some good playoff runs here and there in the last 10 years. But none of us have strung together several years of deep playoff runs. Last decade has been rough on Texas High, Sulphur Springs, Jacksonville...... and those were playoff mainstays with good runs 2000-2010ish.... Hopefully things will improve in the new decade. Would love to see Lee do well in 6A....  Texas High, Marshall, JT, Lufkin all do well in 5A.  Carthage and Gilmer shouldn't have ALL the fun. lmao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upullinmychain Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 2 hours ago, VonG said: You don't pray for the other big schools? All my friend, just didn't wanna list ever school. Wasn't meant for somebody to get in they feels cause I didn name em. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eagleborn Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 1 hour ago, upullinmychain said: All my friend, just didn't wanna list ever school. Wasn't meant for somebody to get in they feels cause I didn name em. Preach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted February 1, 2020 Share Posted February 1, 2020 21 hours ago, ANTI said: I said high enrollment doesnt automatically mean you have alot of talent. Lee has a good soon to be JR group. What else? Exactly it’s nothing after that. Soo. I don’t know what he sees. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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