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2019-20 East Texas 5A Sports Thread


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3 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

East Texas 5A D2 predictions: 

Texas High, MP, SS, Greenville, Terrell, Forney, North Forney 

Marshall, Hallsville, PT, Nac, Jax, Whitehouse 

Corsi and Ennis go South or west. 

im thinking T-High replaces Lindale and nothing changes.

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4 hours ago, ANTI said:

Whew. The travel actually potentially worse in 5A D1.

Furthest LV fans were traveling was on this side of DFW (Rockwall/Mesquite).

Now it's potentially Sherman and McKinney. 

Right. God forbid they put Midlothian in our district like Stepp was predicting. 

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Saw the below in the DMN:

About five hours after the cutoff lines were announced, McAllen ISD posted on its Twitter page that the enrollment numbers for its schools were incorrect, including three schools that had been placed in 6A. Highland Park ISD athletic director Johnny Ringo started getting phone calls saying that if those three McAllen schools had to move down to 5A, the UIL might adjust the 6A cutoff line and Highland Park could end up moving up to the UIL’s largest classification.

Tuesday afternoon, UIL communications specialist Logan Lawrence sent an email saying that the classification cutoff numbers would not change, no matter which classification the McAllen schools end up in. But shortly after that, Lawrence said even that stance had changed, and that while the UIL doesn’t expect to change the cutoff numbers, it’s not completely ruling it out, either.

Lawrence said it could be later in the week before anything is finalized.
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I think we could see some interesting things in 5A D2.

Lindale is dropping down to 4A Div I
Texas High is dropping down to 5A Div II

But.... these schools could affect things:

Crandall is dropping to 5A Div II
Kaufman is dropping down to 4A Div I
Mesquite Poteet is dropping to 5A Div II
Carrollton Creekview is dropping to 5A Div II
Prosper Rock Hill will be in 5A Div II

Of course there is Ennis and Corsi in 5A Div II

DISD will have a 5A Div II district of it's own (Adamson, Conrad, Jefferson, Kimball, SOC, Spruce)

BUT..... Justin Northwest, Midlothian, Road Oak, Frisco Reedy, and Royse City are all leaving 5A Div I and moving up to D1.

Potential 5A Div II schools that could end up in East Texas Districts:
Crandall
Mesquite Poteet
Carrollton Creekview
Rock Hill
Ennis 
Corsicana
North Forney
Terrell
Forney

Texas High
Mount Pleasant
Sulphur Springs
Marshall
Hallsville
Pine Tree
Whitehouse
Jacksonville
Nacogdoches


 

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17 minutes ago, Mavchamp said:

I think we could see some interesting things in 5A D2.

Lindale is dropping down to 4A Div I
Texas High is dropping down to 5A Div II

But.... these schools could affect things:

Crandall is dropping to 5A Div II
Kaufman is dropping down to 4A Div I
Mesquite Poteet is dropping to 5A Div II
Carrollton Creekview is dropping to 5A Div II
Prosper Rock Hill will be in 5A Div II

Of course there is Ennis and Corsi in 5A Div II

DISD will have a 5A Div II district of it's own (Adamson, Conrad, Jefferson, Kimball, SOC, Spruce)

BUT..... Justin Northwest, Midlothian, Road Oak, Frisco Reedy, and Royse City are all leaving 5A Div I and moving up to D1.

Potential 5A Div II schools that could end up in East Texas Districts:
Crandall
Mesquite Poteet
Carrollton Creekview
Rock Hill
Ennis 
Corsicana
North Forney
Terrell
Forney

Texas High
Mount Pleasant
Sulphur Springs
Marshall
Hallsville
Pine Tree
Whitehouse
Jacksonville
Nacogdoches


 

Greenville?

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20 minutes ago, Spothhb2 said:

Saw the below in the DMN:

About five hours after the cutoff lines were announced, McAllen ISD posted on its Twitter page that the enrollment numbers for its schools were incorrect, including three schools that had been placed in 6A. Highland Park ISD athletic director Johnny Ringo started getting phone calls saying that if those three McAllen schools had to move down to 5A, the UIL might adjust the 6A cutoff line and Highland Park could end up moving up to the UIL’s largest classification.

Tuesday afternoon, UIL communications specialist Logan Lawrence sent an email saying that the classification cutoff numbers would not change, no matter which classification the McAllen schools end up in. But shortly after that, Lawrence said even that stance had changed, and that while the UIL doesn’t expect to change the cutoff numbers, it’s not completely ruling it out, either.

Lawrence said it could be later in the week before anything is finalized.

They screwed up. Just admit it and change the cut off. Not that difficult. It's not like schools have finalized schedules yet.

What's funny also is that the UIL didn't put the max numbers of 6A schools they usually do. If they had done those 3 extra schools, like usually, HP would also be 6A.

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12 minutes ago, LoboFan07 said:

They screwed up. Just admit it and change the cut off. Not that difficult. It's not like schools have finalized schedules yet.

What's funny also is that the UIL didn't put the max numbers of 6A schools they usually do. If they had done those 3 extra schools, like usually, HP would also be 6A.

There’s some big $$$ influencers messing with that I would guess ;) 

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9 hours ago, LoboFan07 said:

5A D1 is 1900 to 2219. North Forney turned in 1,900. That'd be the smallest school in 5A D1.

Yep,. 5A D2 has the largest percentage differential from low to high at 56% other than 2A D1 at 57%. 5A  D1 only has a 16% differential from 1900 to 2199. I know the UIL cannot control how many kids are in each school but man, I agree, you give me 600 more kids.... JAX at 1275 and TX High at 1892.... I’m gonna find a lot of football players in that 600.... well, 300 if half are female. 

I’ve said it already and I’ll say it again. An East Texas 5A Division 2 team will not win a state championship anytime soon. Too many teams in Dallas and Houston at the top end (1800-1900). 

Sure, TX High won it in 2002 and Kilgore in 2004.... but that was waaaaay before Frisco built 10 high schools with caps at 1800 students. Houston suburbs doing same thing. Not UIL’s fault,  just the way it is. 

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8 minutes ago, Matt said:

Yep,. 5A D2 has the largest percentage differential from low to high at 56% other than 2A D1 at 57%. 5A  D1 only has a 16% differential from 1900 to 2199. I know the UIL cannot control how many kids are in each school but man, I agree, you give me 600 more kids.... JAX at 1275 and TX High at 1892.... I’m gonna find a lot of football players in that 600.... well, 300 if half are female. 

I’ve said it already and I’ll say it again. An East Texas 5A Division 2 team will not win a state championship anytime soon. Too many teams in Dallas and Houston at the top end (1800-1900). 

Sure, TX High won it in 2002 and Kilgore in 2004.... but that was waaaaay before Frisco built 10 high schools with caps at 1800 students. Houston suburbs doing same thing. Not UIL’s fault,  just the way it is. 

What's the official smoke signals prediction on the district.  

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1 hour ago, Mavchamp said:

I think we could see some interesting things in 5A D2.

Lindale is dropping down to 4A Div I
Texas High is dropping down to 5A Div II

But.... these schools could affect things:

Crandall is dropping to 5A Div II
Kaufman is dropping down to 4A Div I
Mesquite Poteet is dropping to 5A Div II
Carrollton Creekview is dropping to 5A Div II
Prosper Rock Hill will be in 5A Div II

Of course there is Ennis and Corsi in 5A Div II

DISD will have a 5A Div II district of it's own (Adamson, Conrad, Jefferson, Kimball, SOC, Spruce)

BUT..... Justin Northwest, Midlothian, Road Oak, Frisco Reedy, and Royse City are all leaving 5A Div I and moving up to D1.

Potential 5A Div II schools that could end up in East Texas Districts:
Crandall
Mesquite Poteet
Carrollton Creekview
Rock Hill
Ennis 
Corsicana
North Forney
Terrell
Forney

Texas High
Mount Pleasant
Sulphur Springs
Marshall
Hallsville
Pine Tree
Whitehouse
Jacksonville
Nacogdoches


 

I don't see Creekview and Rock Hill  in our district (Corsicana). Maybe Greenville.

Corsicana, Ennis, Forney, North Forney, Terrell, Poteet, Crandall.

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19 minutes ago, CMurder1 said:

I don't see Creekview and Rock Hill  in our district (Corsicana). Maybe Greenville.

Corsicana, Ennis, Forney, North Forney, Terrell, Poteet, Crandall.

Where do they go?  They have to land somewhere.  Putting them with deep East Texas doesn’t make sense. 

Going to come down to if the split of the 5A districts is more East and West or North and South. 

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36 minutes ago, Matt said:

Yep,. 5A D2 has the largest percentage differential from low to high at 56% other than 2A D1 at 57%. 5A  D1 only has a 16% differential from 1900 to 2199. I know the UIL cannot control how many kids are in each school but man, I agree, you give me 600 more kids.... JAX at 1275 and TX High at 1892.... I’m gonna find a lot of football players in that 600.... well, 300 if half are female. 

I’ve said it already and I’ll say it again. An East Texas 5A Division 2 team will not win a state championship anytime soon. Too many teams in Dallas and Houston at the top end (1800-1900). 

Sure, TX High won it in 2002 and Kilgore in 2004.... but that was waaaaay before Frisco built 10 high schools with caps at 1800 students. Houston suburbs doing same thing. Not UIL’s fault,  just the way it is. 

speak for Jax alone lol. Marshall made a good run 2 years ago. Sulphur won it in 08 Ennis in 14 

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47 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said:

Any prediction on a 5A D1 district for east Texas? 

Posted my full prediction on the 6A thread but I’m thinking Longview, West Mesquite, Royse City, John Tyler, McKinney North, Wylie East and Sherman.

Poteet isn’t opting up, so 7 team district. 

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