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56 minutes ago, Aledo said:

We are going to find out if the rankings matter much. They play at 1 today. Also going with Burleson Centennial over Mansfield Timberview, FB Hightower over Shadow Creek, and Wagner over Harlan. I kinda think SC wins but I'm cheering against them. Not a fan of new schools succeeding right away. They should have to go through the dog days like everyone else lol. 

Not to mention SC has had Some really great success in football too. 

Shouldn’t they have to pay dues for 70-80 years before contending?   Lmao 

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5 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Not to mention SC has had Some really great success in football too. 

Shouldn’t they have to pay dues for 70-80 years before contending?   Lmao 

Lancaster smoked Kimball 90-69. 

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Dang Marshall a combined 0-21 in soccer?!? Weve never been a powerhouse but usually middle of pack anyway. Anybody have an opinion on why?

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4 hours ago, The Real Mavfan said:

Dang Marshall a combined 0-21 in soccer?!? Weve never been a powerhouse but usually middle of pack anyway. Anybody have an opinion on why?

Because they have scored less goals then all 21 of their opponents:)

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53 minutes ago, Nacwagons said:

Because they have scored less goals then all 21 of their opponents:)

Our soccer program is not that bad but we aren’t great neither we are in danger of not even making the playoffs and that’s never been a issue.

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8 hours ago, nacdragon07 said:

Our soccer program is not that bad but we aren’t great neither we are in danger of not even making the playoffs and that’s never been a issue.

Our men's team have let a few games slip away they shouldn't have lost. Our women's team is not good, our women's teams as a whole have been down for a few years now. 

We see a higher % female athletes leave the district especially for Volleyball and Softball at an early age. They end up at Chireno, Central Heights and Woden.

 

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18 hours ago, The Real Mavfan said:

Dang Marshall a combined 0-21 in soccer?!? Weve never been a powerhouse but usually middle of pack anyway. Anybody have an opinion on why?

Not just losing. They aren’t even competitive most games.  Like 8-0 and such. 

Never seen them struggle like they are now.  Can’t pinpoint why.  They have numbers from what I hear. 

A good city soccer league is in place. 

Honestly..... I don’t know.  But it’s ugly. 
 

On the bright side.... the Lady Mav softball team is 17-4 I believe.  They start district on a Tuesday Vs JT. 

Some schools are good at some sports.  Terrible at others.  Soccer is Clearly our terrible.  
 

 

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I guess the positive for MP is their only bad sport is football. But ugh in the State of Texas it should be the better sport. But its ok. I will take what we can get right. Best basketball team they have ever had. Idk yet how baseball and softball look. But looking like playoff runs for soccer again.

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2 hours ago, budmanmpfan said:

I guess the positive for MP is their only bad sport is football. But ugh in the State of Texas it should be the better sport. But its ok. I will take what we can get right. Best basketball team they have ever had. Idk yet how baseball and softball look. But looking like playoff runs for soccer again.

What do you think it will take for MP to become a consistent playoff contender? 

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On 3/8/2020 at 8:18 PM, Aledo said:

What do you think it will take for MP to become a consistent playoff contender? 

From the outside looking in.....

1.  Numbers-   Too few athletes coming out for football.  MP may have the smallest roster in the district.   Two way players.   No room for injuries. 

2.  Be patient with new coaches.  A few times I felt like MP was running off coaches too soon.  Give them time to get a program built. MP didn’t fall into a ditch overnight.  They won’t climb out of it overnight. 

3. Demographics.  You can’t ignore the change in demographics at MP.  It’s a majority Hispanic school now.   I do not buy into the idea that Hispanics can’t/don’t play football.  It’s a lie.  The truth?:  SOME coaches don’t recruit hispanic athletes to play football like they do whites and blacks.  JMHO.  But seeing the success of MPs soccer team year in and year out..... the athletes are there.  

4. Bad Alignment luck-   Being in a district with Texas High, Longview, Marshall, Sulphur Springs...... for the last 20 years hasn’t helped.  

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Lady Mavs beat JT in the district opener 15-0 in three innings. 

 

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Girls Soccer

Texas High 2  Sulphur Springs 0 (OT)

Baseball

Texas High 3 Greenville 1

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16 hours ago, Mavchamp said:

Lady Mavs beat JT in the district opener 15-0 in three innings. 

 

Baseball is improving at JT, but they still have a long ways to go.  But I like their coach, and he is doing things to build confidence in the program.  

But softball has a bigger hill to climb.  It is night and day between the baseball/softball programs at JT vs Lee.  

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On 3/8/2020 at 10:03 PM, Mavchamp said:

From the outside looking in.....

1.  Numbers-   Too few athletes coming out for football.  MP may have the smallest roster in the district.   Two way players.   No room for injuries. 

2.  Be patient with new coaches.  A few times I felt like MP was running off coaches too soon.  Give them time to get a program built. MP didn’t fall into a ditch overnight.  They won’t climb out of it overnight. 

3. Demographics.  You can’t ignore the change in demographics at MP.  It’s a majority Hispanic school now.   I do not buy into the idea that Hispanics can’t/don’t play football.  It’s a lie.  The truth?:  SOME coaches don’t recruit hispanic athletes to play football like they do whites and blacks.  JMHO.  But seeing the success of MPs soccer team year in and year out..... the athletes are there.  
 

4. Bad Alignment luck-   Being in a district with Texas High, Longview, Marshall, Sulphur Springs...... for the last 20 years hasn’t helped.  

This. All of this

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On 3/8/2020 at 9:18 PM, Aledo said:

What do you think it will take for MP to become a consistent playoff contender? 

Bring back Coach McDaniels.  Lol.

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16-5A Softball

Game 1
Marshall beat John Tyler 15-0
Lufkin beat Pine Tree 17-6
Jacksonville beat Nacogdoches 18-3
Hallsville beat Whitehouse  12-3


Game 2
Pine Tree beat Nac 15-13
Jacksonville beat Lufkin 11-0
Marshall Vs. Hallsville (Thursday)
Whitehouse Vs. John Tyler (Thursday)
 

Standings
Jacksonville (2-0) , (10-4)
Marshall (1-0) , (17-5)
Hallsville (1-0) , (11-4-1)
Lufkin (1-1) , (5-9)
Pine Tree (1-1) , (5-14)
Whitehouse (0-1) , (8-5)
John Tyler (0-1) , (?-?)
Nacogdoches (0-2) , (3-4)


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16-5A Boys Soccer

Game 12
NO TUESDAY GAMES- SPRING BREAK
Games will resume on Friday night.

Standings
John Tyler (9-1-1) , (15-7-1)
Jacksonville (9-2) , (17-5-1)
Whitehouse (8-1-2) , (16-2-3)
Lufkin (7-3-1) ,  (12-3-4)
Nacogdoches (4-5-2), (15-8-4)
Pine Tree (2-9), (4-11-5)
Hallsville (1-9-1) , (5-11-1)
Marshall (0-10-1) , (1-14)

It appears the four playoff teams have been set with JT, Jax, WH, and Lufkin.  Nac still has a mathematical chance.... but it's a slim one.  They would need to win out...and Lufkin to lose out.  The finish to the district title could be a great one.  JT has the upper hand with the sweep of Jacksonville.  But WH's tie with JT and the season finale Vs. the Lions could make things interesting for all three.  LP seems settled in the #4 spot...but their pedigree demands attention in the finals days of the race.  

 

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16-5A Girls Soccer

Game 12
NO TUESDAY GAMES- SPRING BREAK
Games resume on Friday


Standings
Lufkin (8-1-2) , (10-7-3)
Whitehouse (7-2-2), (8-8-2)
Jacksonville (6-3-2) , (12-7-3)
Pine Tree (6-5) , (9-8-1)
John Tyler (6-5), (7-10-2)
Hallsville (5-4-2), (9-6-4)

Nacogdoches (1-10) ,  (4-10-1) 
Marshall (0-11) ,  (5-12)

Friday's Lufkin Vs. Whitehouse game is huge.  A WH win would create a tie for first place with two games remaining.  An LP win would all but give the title to Lufkin.  Jacksonville could creep up on WH with a win coupled with a WH loss.  Pine Tree and JT are knotted up for the final playoff spot and Hallsville is lurking just behind them.  Shaping up for a great race to the end.
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15-5A Boys Soccer

Game 9
Mount Pleasant beat Royse City 8-0
Lindale beat Greenville 3-1
Sulphur Springs  beat Texas High

Standings
Mount Pleasant (9-0) , (15-6-1) 
Sulphur Springs (7-2) , (13-6-5)
Lindale (6-3) , (11-9-1) 
Royse City (4-5) , (8-10-1)
Texas High (1-8) , (9-13-3)
Greenville (0-9) , (1-18-3)

The playoff field is set.  Teams will be off for spring break until the season finale next week.

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15-5A Girls Soccer

Game 9
Texas beat Sulphur Springs 2-0
Lindale beat Greenville 3-2
Mount Pleasant beat Royse City 2-0

Standings
Sulphur Springs (7-2) , (11-8-1)
Mount Pleasant (7-2) , (15-6-1)
Royse City (6-3) , (7-11-4)
Lindale (4-5) ,  (5-14-3)
Texas High (3-6) , (5-10-0)
Greenville (0-9) , (0-16-1)

Texas High got the upset of the night with their shocking win over Sulphur Springs.  It kept Texarkana's slim playoff hopes alive, but it knocked the Ladycats into a tie for first with Mount Pleasant.  RC is firmly in third place.  Lindale is in fourth with a paper-thin lead over Texas High.

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It's early....but the softball game Thursday between Marshall and Hallsville is HUGE.  Winner becomes the favorite for the district title.....with Jacksonville lurking just behind.

Race between Hallsville, Marshall, and Jacksonville could be a fierce one.  

Things get murky after that.  WH and LP can't be overlooked.

Should be a FUN race to watch.

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On 3/11/2020 at 9:41 PM, Mavchamp said:

It's early....but the softball game Thursday between Marshall and Hallsville is HUGE.  Winner becomes the favorite for the district title.....with Jacksonville lurking just behind.

Race between Hallsville, Marshall, and Jacksonville could be a fierce one.  

Things get murky after that.  WH and LP can't be overlooked.

Should be a FUN race to watch.

PLaying an easy pre district schedule would appear to be a huge game. However how did it end up?

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UIL has announced that all sporting events will be postponed until April.  They will re-evaluate the situation at that time.  

Here is how things stand headed into the hiatus: 

 

16-5A Softball

Game 1
Marshall beat John Tyler 15-0
Lufkin beat Pine Tree 17-6
Jacksonville beat Nacogdoches 18-3
Hallsville beat Whitehouse  12-3


Game 2
Pine Tree beat Nac 15-13
Jacksonville beat Lufkin 11-0
Hallsville beat Marshall 10-0
Whitehouse beat John Tyler 19-0
 

Standings
Jacksonville (2-0) , (10-4)
Hallsville (2-0) , (12-4-1)
Marshall (1-1) , (17-6)
Lufkin (1-1) , (5-9)
Pine Tree (1-1) , (5-14)
Whitehouse (1-1) , (8-5)
John Tyler (0-2) , (?-?)
Nacogdoches (0-2) , (3-4)

As expected.......Jacksonville and Hallsville are atop the district standings.  Meanwhile four teams have split their first two games.  JT and Nac are in early holes at (0-2).


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16-5A Boys Soccer

Game 12
Jacksonville beat Hallsville 3-1
Whitehouse beat Lufkin 5-3
John Tyler Vs. Nacogdoches- POSTPONED
Marshall Vs. Pine Tree


Standings
John Tyler (9-1-1) , (15-7-1)
Jacksonville (10-2) , (18-5-1)
Whitehouse (9-1-2) , (17-2-3)
Lufkin (7-4-1) ,  (12-4-4)
Nacogdoches (4-5-2), (15-8-4)
Pine Tree (2-9), (4-11-5)
Hallsville (1-10-1) , (5-12-1)
Marshall (0-10-1) , (1-14)

Whitehouse's win over LP solidified the Wildcat's spot at #3 and Lufkin at #4.  Jacksonville remains within striking distance of JT.....  the Lion's game Vs. Nac will have to wait until the UIL resumes games.  The playoff teams are all but set with JT, Jax, WH, and Lufkin.  But the district title is still up for grabs as Jax and JT have a rematch looming for the regular season finale.

 

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16-5A Girls Soccer

Game 12
Lufkin beat Whitehouse 3-1
Pine Tree beat Marshall 7-0
Jacksonville tied Hallsville 0-0; Jax won in PK 4-2
Nacogdoches Vs. John Tyler- POSTPONED 


Standings
Lufkin (9-1-2) , (11-7-3)
Whitehouse (7-3-2), (8-9-2)
Pine Tree (7-5) , (10-8-1)
Jacksonville (6-3-3) , (12-7-4)
John Tyler (6-5), (7-10-2)
Hallsville (5-4-3), (9-6-5)

Nacogdoches (1-10) ,  (4-10-1) 
Marshall (0-11) ,  (5-12)

Lufkin's win over Whitehouse virtually handed the district championship to the Lady Panthers.  Pine Tree's win coupled with Jacksonville's at Hallsville put the Lady Bucs into third place, while the Maidens drop to fourth.  If JT is in desperate need of a win over Nac... and still needs some help to catch Jax for the final playoff slot.  
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15-5A Boys Soccer

Game 10
SPRING BREAK

Standings
Mount Pleasant (9-0) , (15-6-1) 
Sulphur Springs (7-2) , (13-6-5)
Lindale (6-3) , (11-9-1) 
Royse City (4-5) , (8-10-1)
Texas High (1-8) , (9-13-3)
Greenville (0-9) , (1-18-3)

The playoff field is set.  MP will be the district champion.  SS has settled into second place.  Lindale and Royse City round out the playoff field.  Not much to be decided in this race with one game remaining.

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15-5A Girls Soccer

Game 10
SPRING BREAK

Standings
Sulphur Springs (7-2) , (11-8-1)
Mount Pleasant (7-2) , (15-6-1)
Royse City (6-3) , (7-11-4)
Lindale (4-5) ,  (5-14-3)
Texas High (3-6) , (5-10-0)
Greenville (0-9) , (0-16-1)

SS and MP are battling it out for the district title.  They split their games and they are tied headed into the regular season finale.  Looks to be a photo finish.  RC has clinched the #3 slot.  Texas High has a CHANCE to catch Lindale for the final playoff slot....  the TIgers would need a win over SS in the finale coupled with a Lindale loss to MP.  THS and Lindale split their series.  

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Greenville's two soccer teams have played a combined 39 games...and won once. Ugh.

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21 minutes ago, Greenville said:

Greenville's two soccer teams have played a combined 39 games...and won once. Ugh.

But y’all got the fastest dude in the state... So that’s something. Lol

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6 hours ago, Greenville said:

Greenville's two soccer teams have played a combined 39 games...and won once. Ugh.

Marshall’s soccer teams are a combined 6-27-1 on the season.  0-21-1 in district.  

We use to Be competitive on the boys side. Made the playoffs regularly.  We have fallen into the abyss.   Girls have struggled since their inception.

Going to get even tougher with Longview, MP, and Sulphur Springs the next two years.   Hope they can get it together  

 

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Texas High girls have GREENVILLE remaining. They best SS.

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On 3/8/2020 at 9:03 PM, Mavchamp said:

From the outside looking in.....

1.  Numbers-   Too few athletes coming out for football.  MP may have the smallest roster in the district.   Two way players.   No room for injuries. 

2.  Be patient with new coaches.  A few times I felt like MP was running off coaches too soon.  Give them time to get a program built. MP didn’t fall into a ditch overnight.  They won’t climb out of it overnight. 

3. Demographics.  You can’t ignore the change in demographics at MP.  It’s a majority Hispanic school now.   I do not buy into the idea that Hispanics can’t/don’t play football.  It’s a lie.  The truth?:  SOME coaches don’t recruit hispanic athletes to play football like they do whites and blacks.  JMHO.  But seeing the success of MPs soccer team year in and year out..... the athletes are there.  

4. Bad Alignment luck-   Being in a district with Texas High, Longview, Marshall, Sulphur Springs...... for the last 20 years hasn’t helped.  

John Tyler is one of those schools that don’t. JT fans can’t over look the fact that JT is 60% to maybe 70% Latino now. You can’t tell me that there isn’t any tall Latino boys at JT to play basketball and football. When it comes to sports at JT a large of it is Segregated. The white kids played baseball and tennis and golf some of that is changing now. All of the Latinos played soccer and baseball, and all of the black kids at JT played football and basketball and ran track. If you did play football and you wasn’t black you were a kicker. This was how it was when I was at JT. I have said it before get some of the Latino kids that played football in middle school to continue to play in high school. Maybe then we will see more than 35 players on varsity.

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