HearEmaGrowlin Posted December 2, 2020 Author Share Posted December 2, 2020 Yep. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Valhalla Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Those blue chippers leaving are not the problem.ย ย The problem is Texas developing the blue chippers that they get. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 hours ago, DB2point0 said: Thatโs the reason ole TrueBlue doesnโt like that. ย Saban has pulled a lot of kids from Texas that were difference makers for him And he will continue getting a majority of the kids he wants. Iโll give you that a top-notch recruiter like Urban will keep some of those kids in state, but kids today are hard to fool. A lot of them will look at Urbanaโs record of 4-5 years in one spot and bailing and look elsewhere. No matter how smooth Urban talks, he canโt manufacture more rings. The only guy with more rings than Nick Saban is buried about 150 yards from his office and has his own museum there.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 5 minutes ago, trueblue82 said: And he will continue getting a majority of the kids he wants. Iโll give you that a top-notch recruiter like Urban will keep some of those kids in state, but kids today are hard to fool. A lot of them will look at Urbanaโs record of 4-5 years in one spot and bailing and look elsewhere. No matter how smooth Urban talks, he canโt manufacture more rings. The only guy with more rings than Nick Saban is buried about 150 yards from his office and has his own museum there.ย Youโre saying he wonโt produce another championship? ย Thatโs highly possible. ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trueblue82 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 10 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Youโre saying he wonโt produce another championship? ย Thatโs highly possible. ย Heโll need at least 3-4 more to catch Nick. I donโt think he will stay long enough to do that. And when he leaves, youโre assuming that the UT administration follows him with a home run hire. The same school that has made two quality hires in your lifetime. So, you throw the bank at Urban to get 5 good years and 1-2 rings. HOOK โEM!ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 hours ago, Valhalla said: Those blue chippers leaving are not the problem.ย ย The problem is Texas developing the blue chippers that they get. You are correct! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted December 3, 2020 Author Share Posted December 3, 2020 57 minutes ago, trueblue82 said: Heโll need at least 3-4 more to catch Nick. I donโt think he will stay long enough to do that. And when he leaves, youโre assuming that the UT administration follows him with a home run hire. The same school that has made two quality hires in your lifetime. So, you throw the bank at Urban to get 5 good years and 1-2 rings. HOOK โEM!ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Lhornfan Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Not getting excited though. Shaka always starts off hot. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bordertown Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Congrats to the dribbling Horns on the tournament championship. Interesting stat I found. Texas has played North Carolina 12 times in the two schools history. All the games have been since 1990. Texas has a 9-3 record over the Tar Heels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 13 hours ago, trueblue82 said: Heโll need at least 3-4 more to catch Nick. I donโt think he will stay long enough to do that. And when he leaves, youโre assuming that the UT administration follows him with a home run hire. The same school that has made two quality hires in your lifetime. So, you throw the bank at Urban to get 5 good years and 1-2 rings. HOOK โEM!ย Couple of responses to this. 1) I disagree that Meyer needs 3-4 more to catch Saban. If youโre referring strictly to number of rings, then yes. If youโre saying he needs 3-4 more to be on the same level, then I disagree.ย 2) Itโs been 10 years already since Texas was truly relevant, and as it appears right now, that isnโt changing anytime soon. So if Meyer were to come in, give 5 years with 1-2 rings (which would be 5 great years, not just good), then I think any program in the country would sign up for that.ย 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, Lobo97 said: So if Meyer were to come in, give 5 years with 1-2 rings (which would be 5 great years, not just good), then I think any program in the country would sign up for that.ย To be fair: if you could guarantee Urban could win 2 nattys and give OU five great seasons, I'd trade him for Riley. Straight up.ย 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
514 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 13 hours ago, trueblue82 said: Heโll need at least 3-4 more to catch Nick. I donโt think he will stay long enough to do that. And when he leaves, youโre assuming that the UT administration follows him with a home run hire. The same school that has made two quality hires in your lifetime. So, you throw the bank at Urban to get 5 good years and 1-2 rings. HOOK โEM!ย Alabama before Nick did not do so good in hiring also. Now Nick is getting on up there in age and won't be there forever. Let's wait and see if they go and hire another Curry or Shula to take his place. Roll Tide. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, 514 said: Alabama before Nick did not do so good in hiring also. Now Nick is getting on up there in age and won't be there forever. Let's wait and see if they go and hire another Curry or Shula to take his place. Roll Tide. I thought they were getting there with Shula, it was a bit gradual (probably too "gradual" for 'Bama nation), but they seemed to be getting there. Obviously they couldn't pass up Saban when the opportunity presented itself.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 4 minutes ago, LOL said: To be fair: if you could guarantee Urban could win 2 nattys and give OU five great seasons, I'd trade him for Riley. Straight up.ย Right! Who wouldnโt, lol. I mean, other than Clemson and Bama, Iโd bet anyone in the country would.ย ย 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
514 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 I really don't mean to knock on Shula to hard but he is not Nick. My point is that it can be hit and miss going after the homerun hires. One never knows what your going to get right out of the bat and will the admin have the patience to wait like VT on Beamer or FSU on Bowden. Bama has not been perfect in this process either. They struckย Gold with Nick and the Bear. Texas stuck gold with Royal and did just Ok with Mack. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lobo97 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 7 minutes ago, 514 said: I really don't mean to knock on Shula to hard but he is not Nick. My point is that it can be hit and miss going after the homerun hires. One never knows what your going to get right out of the bat and will the admin have the patience to wait like VT on Beamer or FSU on Bowden. Bama has not been perfect in this process either. They struckย Gold with Nick and the Bear. Texas stuck gold with Royal and did just Ok with Mack. Same with Dabo. It took about 6 years before Clemson became the power theyโve been the last 5.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
514 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 Just now, Lobo97 said: Same with Dabo. It took about 6 years before Clemson became the power theyโve been the last 5.ย Yes that's a good example. Good patience by Clemson and they have been rewarded. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 12 minutes ago, 514 said: I really don't mean to knock on Shula to hard but he is not Nick. My point is that it can be hit and miss going after the homerun hires. One never knows what your going to get right out of the bat and will the admin have the patience to wait like VT on Beamer or FSU on Bowden. Bama has not been perfect in this process either. They struckย Gold with Nick and the Bear. Texas stuck gold with Royal and did just Ok with Mack. You bet your ### they did. OU shoulda hired Royal in 1960. Bud had obviously peaked, and Royal was scorching hot after bringing Texas back to the Cotton Bowl. The regents could've money-whipped him to come back to his alma mater.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 On 12/1/2020 at 7:22 PM, MavGrad99 said: Saw this on Twitter today and laughed my butt off. ย This one makes me laugh every time I see it ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
514 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, LOL said: You bet your ### they did. OU shoulda hired Royal in 1960. Bud had obviously peaked, and Royal was scorching hot after bringing Texas back to the Cotton Bowl. The regents could've money-whipped him to come back to his alma mater.ย I always wondered why OU did not pursue him hard to come back to OU, maybe they did though backdoor channels I don't know. I think deep down Royal was just loyal to Texas for sticking with him though the good and bad times. He was just a honest to good person who felt loyal.ย 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 2 minutes ago, 514 said: I always wondered why OU did not pursue him hard to come back to OU, maybe they did though backdoor channels I don't know. I think deep down Royal was just loyal to Texas for sticking with him though the good and bad times. He was just a honest to good person who felt loyal.ย It was pretty much a mutual thing...ย Bud wanted his longtime assistant Gomer Jones to follow him, and Royal was apprehensive about following a legend. I think he wanted to build *his* program, without being beholden to his mentor.ย And then once Gomer flamed out, OU tried to backchannel a deal, but by then it was the mid-60s and Royal had UT rolling.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
514 Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, LOL said: It was pretty much a mutual thing...ย Bud wanted his longtime assistant Gomer Jones to follow him, and Royal was apprehensive about following a legend. I think he wanted to build *his* program, without being beholden to his mentor.ย And then once Gomer flamed out, OU tried to backchannel a deal, but by then it was the mid-60s and Royal had UT rolling.ย ย I got to talk to Royal about 20 years ago at coaching school. It was great. Easy guy to talk to. So humble. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. P Posted December 3, 2020 Share Posted December 3, 2020 1 minute ago, 514 said: I got to talk to Royal about 20 years ago at coaching school. It was great. Easy guy to talk to. So humble. He was a great one. Unfairly maligned over the whole segregation deal, in my opinion. Was a great man, and Sooner.ย Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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