88YoePride Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 Are you freakin' kidding me?! Whitney Houston and Notorious B.I.G. get into the Rock & Roll HoF?! The nominees included PAT BENATAR, JUDAS PRIEST, AND SOUNDGARDEN. BUT WHITNEY HOUSTON AND B.I.G. GOT IN. That's it. I won't rest until Anthrax are in the Rap HoF. I can't really express my true feelings on this because of language restrictions. Just imagine Samuel L. Jackson in a Quentin Tarantino movie. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 16, 2020 Share Posted January 16, 2020 So many deserving people/groups continued to be snubbed while flakes get voted in ... I can see Whitney Houston getting in, she was special ... It's unbelievable to me that Johnny Rivers and BJ Thomas are not in ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 18 hours ago, 88YoePride said: Are you freakin' kidding me?! Whitney Houston and Notorious B.I.G. get into the Rock & Roll HoF?! The nominees included PAT BENATAR, JUDAS PRIEST, AND SOUNDGARDEN. BUT WHITNEY HOUSTON AND B.I.G. GOT IN. That's it. I won't rest until Anthrax are in the Rap HoF. I can't really express my true feelings on this because of language restrictions. Just imagine Samuel L. Jackson in a Quentin Tarantino movie. I understand Whitney being inducted even though I didn't care for her music, but how does she make it in before Dionne Warwick or even Rufus and Chaka Khan, Chaka deserves to be there, and adding Rufus would be cool ? I see many complaining about the lack of diversity with the RRHOF https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8543758/rock-roll-hall-fame-gender-racial-diversity-guest-opinion-evelyn-mcdonnell . The thing is many of the greats are there. The only one's I can think of is the above as well as The Commodores and Kool & The Gang. I am glad that T. Rex will be inducted. My favorite Glam Band hasn't even been nominated, and Quiet Riots two biggest hits were covers of their songs. Slade has inspired many American bands that are in the RRHOF, although they weren't big in the States. I suppose the RRHOF snubbery thinks that Noddy, SuperYob, and the boys will : . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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88YoePride Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 9 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said: I understand Whitney being inducted even though I didn't care for her music, but how does she make it in before Dionne Warwick or even Rufus and Chaka Khan, Chaka deserves to be there, and adding Rufus would be cool ? I see many complaining about the lack of diversity with the RRHOF https://www.billboard.com/articles/business/8543758/rock-roll-hall-fame-gender-racial-diversity-guest-opinion-evelyn-mcdonnell . The thing is many of the greats are there. The only one's I can think of is the above as well as The Commodores and Kool & The Gang. I am glad that T. Rex will be inducted. My favorite Glam Band hasn't even been nominated, and Quiet Riots two biggest hits were covers of their songs. Slade has inspired many American bands that are in the RRHOF, although they weren't big in the States. I suppose the RRHOF snubbery thinks that Noddy, SuperYob, and the boys will : . A: I don't get how Whitney, B.I.G., or Chaka Khan, etc, are rock & roll. I can understand back in the '50s/'60s the Platters, the Four Tops, Jackie Wilson, or in the '70s maybe bands with some funk. But other than that? Not rock n' roll. Otherwise, Hall+Oates and Rick Astley and Paul Young better darn well get into the R&B HoF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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88YoePride Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 As for glam bands, is Sweet in? Because all due respect to Noddy and the boys... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 B.J. Thomas A true American institution whose iconic pop, country and gospel hits defined their respective generations and now transcend them, B.J. Thomas has found a unique way to celebrate an incredible half a century in music and some 47 years since his first gold selling hit on Scepter Records. The singer, a five time Grammy and two time Dove Award winner who has sold more than 70 million records and is ranked in Billboard’s Top 50 most played artists over the past 50 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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DaveTV1 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, 88YoePride said: As for glam bands, is Sweet in? Because all due respect to Noddy and the boys... Unfortunately they are not. This should be taken : 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, KirtFalcon said: B.J. Thomas A true American institution whose iconic pop, country and gospel hits defined their respective generations and now transcend them, B.J. Thomas has found a unique way to celebrate an incredible half a century in music and some 47 years since his first gold selling hit on Scepter Records. The singer, a five time Grammy and two time Dove Award winner who has sold more than 70 million records and is ranked in Billboard’s Top 50 most played artists over the past 50 years. B.J. was more Country than Rock and Roll, he did cover several songs back in the day from Rock and Roll singers, but, he wasn't Rock and Roll. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
88YoePride Posted January 17, 2020 Author Share Posted January 17, 2020 1 hour ago, DaveTV1 said: Unfortunately they are not. This should be taken : The first time I heard Sweet was on a late-'80s syndicated radio show called Metal Shop. Every week they would have some headbanger musician name their top five classic tracks and they would play their #1. I don't remember who it was, but one Saturday night Sweet was that week's #1. "Action"! I promptly went out and found a copy of "Desolation Boulevard" on Vinyl! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 17, 2020 Share Posted January 17, 2020 3 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: B.J. was more Country than Rock and Roll, he did cover several songs back in the day from Rock and Roll singers, but, he wasn't Rock and Roll. He was more rock and roll than a lot of people that are in the RRHOF ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 20 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: He was more rock and roll than a lot of people that are in the RRHOF ... I will agree with his early years, but they were covers of Rock and Roll songs. I've met B.J. and I've talked to him, he's a great crooner, and while he did influence Blue Swede they were a one hit wonder. After B.J.'s motorcycle crash in Houston, he mellowed and went country. . Even Blue Swede's version is more rock and roll than B.J.'s. B.J. deserves to be in the C&WHOF, but not RRHOF. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 10 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: I will agree with his early years, but they were covers of Rock and Roll songs. I've met B.J. and I've talked to him, he's a great crooner, and while he did influence Blue Swede they were a one hit wonder. After B.J.'s motorcycle crash in Houston, he mellowed and went country. . Even Blue Swede's version is more rock and roll than B.J.'s. B.J. deserves to be in the C&WHOF, but not RRHOF. I disagree ... his many early hits qualify him to be inducted ... he had more rr hits than many who are already in .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoney Posted January 18, 2020 Share Posted January 18, 2020 The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is too subjective for me. The case could be made that Johnny Cash was as big a rock star as The Rolling Stones. That’s why I stay away from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 12 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: I disagree ... his many early hits qualify him to be inducted ... he had more rr hits than many who are already in .... He had three songs that I would consider Rock and Roll. "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" #8, "Billy and Sue" #34, and "Hooked on a Feeling" #5. All of the rest are C&W songs to my ear. He also didn't influence any rock and roll musicians as Hank and Johnny had done. That's why they are in. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 3 hours ago, Stoney said: The Rock and Roll Hall of Fame is too subjective for me. The case could be made that Johnny Cash was as big a rock star as The Rolling Stones. That’s why I stay away from it. Johnny was inducted in 1992. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 1 hour ago, DaveTV1 said: He had three songs that I would consider Rock and Roll. "I'm So Lonesome I Could Cry" #8, "Billy and Sue" #34, and "Hooked on a Feeling" #5. All of the rest are C&W songs to my ear. He also didn't influence any rock and roll musicians as Hank and Johnny had done. That's why they are in. I'm so lonesome I could cry is as country as it gets ... He had several RR hits ... Eyes of a NY Woman, Rock and Roll Lullaby, I Just Can't Help Believing, Mighty Clouds of Joy ... and others ... There are all sorts of people that shouldn't be in the RRHOF by your standards ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 2 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: I'm so lonesome I could cry is as country as it gets ... He had several RR hits ... Eyes of a NY Woman, Rock and Roll Lullaby, I Just Can't Help Believing, Mighty Clouds of Joy ... and others ... There are all sorts of people that shouldn't be in the RRHOF by your standards ... C&W Hall of Fame yes, but he was never a Rock and Roll HOF'er. He has a great voice, and he is talented, but it's the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame. Then again, I'm not for rappers being inducted either, because that's not Rock. I remember when the Beastie Boys came onto the scene, and they weren't Rock. I would take Twisted Sister in the RRHOF over them, but the freakin' Beastie Boys are in ? That's schlock that has led music to the state it's in. I realize there are different genre's of the music world, and maybe I just want to keep it pure Rock and Roll. I know this is an R&B tune that hit #1, but it's Rock and Roll to me : Should they be in the RRHOF, I don't think so, but I wouldn't put them in the R&B HOF for one song. It's similar to Lou Christie, and he had more chart hitting hits than B.J.. I realize that this is the soundtrack of the 50's and 60;s, but c'mon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted January 19, 2020 Share Posted January 19, 2020 BJ Thomas is as deserving of being inducted into the RRHOF as anyone ... he was far more POP and RR than country ... a lot of ballad singers have been inducted ... we will just have to disagree on this one ... it's ridiculous that he wasn't added years ago .... same with Johnny Rivers ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted January 20, 2020 Share Posted January 20, 2020 11 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: BJ Thomas is as deserving of being inducted into the RRHOF as anyone ... he was far more POP and RR than country ... a lot of ballad singers have been inducted ... we will just have to disagree on this one ... it's ridiculous that he wasn't added years ago .... same with Johnny Rivers ... I'll agree somewhat on Johnny Rivers, but much of his career in the 50's and 60's were covers of others. For that alone Elvis shouldn't be in the conniving thief. Sad thing is we don't know who many of the songwriters were because he through Col. Tom Parker bought them off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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