BarryLaverty Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Is there a low he won't go to? I have heard some on here have medical personnel as loved ones, as do I. This chafes me. https://www.bing.com/search?q=Trump+nurse+stealing&cvid=588c202c7c974aadbcfc4981f5229210&FORM=ANAB01&DAF1=1&PC=DCTS ‘Outrageous': Cuomo, de Blasio, and nurses blast Trump’s comments about NY face mask usage during coronavirus crisis Slide 1 of 50: A sign about the coronavirus is displayed over Route 50 in Davidsonville, Md., Monday, March 30, 2020. Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan issued a "stay-at-home" directive in response to the coronavirus effect on Monday. "No Maryland resident should be leaving their home unless it is for an essential job or for an essential reason, such as obtaining food or medicine, seeking urgent medical attention or for other necessary purposes," Hogan said at a news conference on the Maryland State House lawn. ( Next Slide Local officials and medical professionals decried President Trump for implying that New York urgently needs face masks to battle coronavirus because health care workers might be stealing or hoarding supplies. “He needs to come to New York. He needs to walk a day in our shoes,” said Pat Kane, head of the New York State Nurses Association. “He needs to come here and tell me about pilfering.” Two of three union members reported having inadequate personal protective equipment like masks to guard themselves against contracting coronavirus while treating patients, according to internal New York State Nurses Association surveys. But Trump still suggested foul play was to blame after a manufacturer said during a briefing at the White House that an unnamed New York hospital’s mask usage had increased more than tenfold since the outbreak began. “Something is going on. And you ought to look into it as reporters,” the president said during the bizarre rant on Sunday. “Where are the masks going? Are they going out of the back door? How do you go from 10,000 to 300,000 [masks used per week], and we have that in a lot of different places." “They have to look at that in New York,” Trump added. Mayor de Blasio and Gov. Cuomo said the accusation was unfounded. “It’s insulting, it’s outrageous, it’s incredibly insensitive to people who right now are giving their all,” de Blasio said on NY1 Monday morning. “They’re literally watching some of their own lost to this disease…trying to make sure they have basic protection so they can go to their families… I don’t know what the president’s talking about.” Cuomo said he didn’t know what exactly Trump was trying to say either. “If he wants to make an accusation, then let him make an accusation, but I don’t know what he’s trying to say by inference,” the governor said at a briefing Monday. The head of the state’s nurses union said supplies have been “locked up” for at least two weeks and slammed the industry leaders for haggling with the federal government over what they’d be paid for their services. “We are out there and we are unarmed,” said Kane, who had just told the Daily News that she learned of two more nurses succumbing to coronavirus. “For the business community to not support the troops – it’s disgusting. We’re talking about people’s lives here.” Typically staffers are given one mask in the morning unless they’re reusing them and to get a new one, healthcare workers have to request it from a secure area, according to Kane. This is a challenge when dealing with critically ill patients in a life and death situation, because nurses and other health care workers cannot take a break from incubating someone to request a mask. “Those supplies go in, they get used immediately,” de Blasio said on PIX11. Some 90% of union members have been exposed to COVID-19 and only 5% of those exposed have been tested, according to internal surveys cited by Kane. The mayor on NY1 that the president should focus on getting New York the supplies and personnel needed to treat thousands of patients infected by the coronavirus and “actually support our health care workers, respect them.” De Blasio stressed the city has enough ventilators, face masks, protective gear and other medical supplies to treat coronavirus patients through April 5. He called on the feds for 400 more ventilators “right away” this week and for more military doctors, nurses and other staff to be deployed to the city. Kane said health care workers also need IV pumps and pulse oximeters in addition to protective gear and ventilators. The president should praise health care workers instead of implying an insidious conspiracy, the mayor said. “All of our front-line health care workers, they’re going through hell right now…they are seeing people die around them all the time,” he said on CNN. “They’re just asking for the ammunition to fight with.” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Slide 1 of 50: A sign about the coronavirus is displayed over Route 50 in Davidsonville, Md., Monday, March 30, 2020. Maryland Gov. Larry Hogan issued a "stay-at-home" directive in response to the coronavirus effect on Monday. "No Maryland resident should be leaving their home unless it is for an essential job or for an essential reason, such as obtaining food or medicine, seeking urgent medical attention or for other necessary purposes," Hogan said at a news conference on the Maryland State House lawn. ( Next Slide Local officials and medical professionals decried President Trump for implying that New York urgently needs face masks to battle coronavirus because health care workers might be stealing or hoarding supplies. “He needs to come to New York. He needs to walk a day in our shoes,” said Pat Kane, head of the New York State Nurses Association. “He needs to come here and tell me about pilfering.” Two of three union members reported having inadequate personal protective equipment like masks to guard themselves against contracting coronavirus while treating patients, according to internal New York State Nurses Association surveys. But Trump still suggested foul play was to blame after a manufacturer said during a briefing at the White House that an unnamed New York hospital’s mask usage had increased more than tenfold since the outbreak began. “Something is going on. And you ought to look into it as reporters,” the president said during the bizarre rant on Sunday. “Where are the masks going? Are they going out of the back door? How do you go from 10,000 to 300,000 [masks used per week], and we have that in a lot of different places." “They have to look at that in New York,” Trump added. Mayor de Blasio and Gov. Cuomo said the accusation was unfounded. “It’s insulting, it’s outrageous, it’s incredibly insensitive to people who right now are giving their all,” de Blasio said on NY1 Monday morning. “They’re literally watching some of their own lost to this disease…trying to make sure they have basic protection so they can go to their families… I don’t know what the president’s talking about.” Cuomo said he didn’t know what exactly Trump was trying to say either. “If he wants to make an accusation, then let him make an accusation, but I don’t know what he’s trying to say by inference,” the governor said at a briefing Monday. The head of the state’s nurses union said supplies have been “locked up” for at least two weeks and slammed the industry leaders for haggling with the federal government over what they’d be paid for their services. “We are out there and we are unarmed,” said Kane, who had just told the Daily News that she learned of two more nurses succumbing to coronavirus. “For the business community to not support the troops – it’s disgusting. We’re talking about people’s lives here.” Typically staffers are given one mask in the morning unless they’re reusing them and to get a new one, healthcare workers have to request it from a secure area, according to Kane. This is a challenge when dealing with critically ill patients in a life and death situation, because nurses and other health care workers cannot take a break from incubating someone to request a mask. “Those supplies go in, they get used immediately,” de Blasio said on PIX11. Some 90% of union members have been exposed to COVID-19 and only 5% of those exposed have been tested, according to internal surveys cited by Kane. The mayor on NY1 that the president should focus on getting New York the supplies and personnel needed to treat thousands of patients infected by the coronavirus and “actually support our health care workers, respect them.” De Blasio stressed the city has enough ventilators, face masks, protective gear and other medical supplies to treat coronavirus patients through April 5. He called on the feds for 400 more ventilators “right away” this week and for more military doctors, nurses and other staff to be deployed to the city. Kane said health care workers also need IV pumps and pulse oximeters in addition to protective gear and ventilators. The president should praise health care workers instead of implying an insidious conspiracy, the mayor said. “All of our front-line health care workers, they’re going through hell right now…they are seeing people die around them all the time,” he said on CNN. “They’re just asking for the ammunition to fight with.”
JBizzle Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Not going to say I agree with him, but are you going to say that healthcare professionals are above reproach? That it isn't possible that there is misuse just because of they job they do? They are people. There are bound to be some not wonderful people in the industry. Doesn't mean that ALL doctors and nurses are. But they have to practice conservation just like everyone else. I applaud all healthcare workers for their sacrifice and bravery. I was in the military. People signed up to put their lives on the line for the country. Does that mean they were all wonderful people who never did anything wrong? No it does not. So stop with the bull like Trump called all healthcare workers thieves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted March 31, 2020 Author Share Posted March 31, 2020 2 minutes ago, JBizzle said: Not going to say I agree with him, but are you going to say that healthcare professionals are above reproach? That it isn't possible that there is misuse just because of they job they do? They are people. There are bound to be some not wonderful people in the industry. Doesn't mean that ALL doctors and nurses are. But they have to practice conservation just like everyone else. I applaud all healthcare workers for their sacrifice and bravery. I was in the military. People signed up to put their lives on the line for the country. Does that mean they were all wonderful people who never did anything wrong? No it does not. So stop with the bull like Trump called all healthcare workers thieves. Ah, a new to the board (?) Trumpite leaps to his defense, by inferring he was right, but ignoring that he says this kind of nonsense to deflect from criticism or just basic requests for needed medical supplies. And, I like that you were able to slam not only the medical profession but the military as well, as to integrity and honesty. Good job! 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 10 minutes ago, JBizzle said: Not going to say I agree with him, but are you going to say that healthcare professionals are above reproach? That it isn't possible that there is misuse just because of they job they do? They are people. There are bound to be some not wonderful people in the industry. Doesn't mean that ALL doctors and nurses are. But they have to practice conservation just like everyone else. I applaud all healthcare workers for their sacrifice and bravery. I was in the military. People signed up to put their lives on the line for the country. Does that mean they were all wonderful people who never did anything wrong? No it does not. So stop with the bull like Trump called all healthcare workers thieves. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 Even Cuomo says people are stealing medical supplies .... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/people-are-stealing-face-masks-from-local-hospitals-gov-cuomo-says.html 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 3 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Ah, a new to the board (?) Trumpite leaps to his defense, by inferring he was right, but ignoring that he says this kind of nonsense to deflect from criticism or just basic requests for needed medical supplies. And, I like that you were able to slam not only the medical profession but the military as well, as to integrity and honesty. Good job! What a complete spin on his point. A point which was well articulated. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 4 hours ago, KirtFalcon said: Even Cuomo says people are stealing medical supplies .... https://www.cnbc.com/2020/03/06/people-are-stealing-face-masks-from-local-hospitals-gov-cuomo-says.html It's going to happen. It's human nature for some. We have hoarders in the world, and they seek to profit from it through ebay. It's backfired for some. I know at the Wal Mart where I buy dog food that it is fully stocked with toilet paper again. One thing they are out of is hydrogen peroxide and isopropyl alcohol. I use hydrogen peroxide on a daily basis for cleaning and mouthwash. I can't find it anywhere. I'm sure it will be back on shelves, but when ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 54 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said: It's going to happen. It's human nature for some. We have hoarders in the world, and they seek to profit from it through ebay. It's backfired for some. I know at the Wal Mart where I buy dog food that it is fully stocked with toilet paper again. One thing they are out of is hydrogen peroxide and isopropyl alcohol. I use hydrogen peroxide on a daily basis for cleaning and mouthwash. I can't find it anywhere. I'm sure it will be back on shelves, but when ? I use hydrogen peroxide and apple cider vinegar a lot ... also Epsom salt .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted March 31, 2020 Share Posted March 31, 2020 20 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: I use hydrogen peroxide and apple cider vinegar a lot ... also Epsom salt .... My parents used to use Epsom salt for soaking their feet, and baths. I don't know what the benefits are from it. I can attest for hydrogen peroxide with cuts and killing bacteria and viruses without the sting that alcohol does. Maybe you can enlighten me old gray Falcon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 1 hour ago, DaveTV1 said: My parents used to use Epsom salt for soaking their feet, and baths. I don't know what the benefits are from it. I can attest for hydrogen peroxide with cuts and killing bacteria and viruses without the sting that alcohol does. Maybe you can enlighten me old gray Falcon. I take an Epson salt bath about once a week, use about a cup full ... it really softens your feet and it's almost like getting a pedicure. .... apple cider vinegar is also good to soak your feet in ... I use hydrogen peroxide a lot like you do. Have also used apple cider vinegar as a scalp treatment ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 hours ago, JBizzle said: Not going to say I agree with him, but are you going to say that healthcare professionals are above reproach? That it isn't possible that there is misuse just because of they job they do? They are people. There are bound to be some not wonderful people in the industry. Doesn't mean that ALL doctors and nurses are. But they have to practice conservation just like everyone else. I applaud all healthcare workers for their sacrifice and bravery. I was in the military. People signed up to put their lives on the line for the country. Does that mean they were all wonderful people who never did anything wrong? No it does not. So stop with the bull like Trump called all healthcare workers thieves. It is odd they’ve gone from 10,000 to 300,000 a week if that is true! it kinda irks me the way cuomo is begging everybody to send the stuff to his state first. Then saying theyll come help after his state is mended up. Like other states’ people aren’t as important as his people. The biggest problem we have is we’ve taxed businesses so badly they’ve folded or left the country. We could be manufacturing these things in America now and not depending on pillow companies to help out 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Ah, a new to the board (?) Trumpite leaps to his defense, by inferring he was right, but ignoring that he says this kind of nonsense to deflect from criticism or just basic requests for needed medical supplies. And, I like that you were able to slam not only the medical profession but the military as well, as to integrity and honesty. Good job! Idiot alert 1 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 8 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: Idiot alert Always nice to have someone second my motion. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 30 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Always nice to have someone second my motion. I was referring to you 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 58 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: I was referring to you I knew that, you newbie ####, but look at how pleased you made the geriatric alt righters, so I am glad I went with it! Thanks for sharing your insightful wisdom with me. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaveTV1 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 34 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: I knew that, you newbie ####, but look at how pleased you made the geriatric alt righters, so I am glad I went with it! Thanks for sharing your insightful wisdom with me. LOL, you weren't around back when DB2point0 was posting. I can understand why he's posting, what else is there to do when we're in self containment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, DaveTV1 said: LOL, you weren't around back when DB2point0 was posting. I can understand why he's posting, what else is there to do when we're in self containment ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said: You, Susan, always you, bless your heart! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 15 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: You, Susan, always you, bless your heart! No, Silly Girl... The man was speaking Directly to You.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 10 hours ago, DaveTV1 said: LOL, you weren't around back when DB2point0 was posting. I can understand why he's posting, what else is there to do when we're in self containment ? It has to be a sad life when all you’re ever known for is posting in the political forum and thinking you’re helping your liberal “cause”. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted April 1, 2020 Author Share Posted April 1, 2020 32 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: It has to be a sad life when all you’re ever known for is posting in the political forum and thinking you’re helping your liberal “cause”. It has to be an infinitely sadder life that you seek security in your beliefs by seeking out only like minded 'conservative' souls and feeling so threatened by differing opinions. Doesn't show a lot of growth or maturity as a person. And personally I am very well known for my ability to be kind and compassionate to simple minded souls from far and wide. Plus I know my way around a brisket taco! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wild74 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 Actually according to the question they should as De Blasio and if they are not satisfied move on to Cuomo, I wouldn't take it to the President lets try to keep it in house. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Monte1076 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: And personally I am very well known for my ability to be kind and compassionate to simple minded souls from far and wide. So does that translate to "anyone who doesn't think like I do"? 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 2 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: It has to be an infinitely sadder life that you seek security in your beliefs by seeking out only like minded 'conservative' souls and feeling so threatened by differing opinions. Doesn't show a lot of growth or maturity as a person. And personally I am very well known for my ability to be kind and compassionate to simple minded souls from far and wide. Plus I know my way around a brisket taco! Well pat yourself on the back for being kind and compassionate. Good for you! I’ve heard you’re not supposed to let the left hand know what the right is doing, but liberals can’t stand getting no recognition. All the while you’re putting me down And don’t know a thing about me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted April 1, 2020 Share Posted April 1, 2020 27 minutes ago, Monte1076 said: So does that translate to "anyone who doesn't think like I do"? Seems pretty simple minded as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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