DB2point0 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, BarryLaverty said: I know that completely, but there is still a process that should be followed, and Congress can hold Trump accountable for a lack of ethics or abuse of power. So firing someone he has the right to fire is an abuse of power? Congress can’t even hold themselves accountable and one side has the worst ethics ever, the other is gaining ground Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 1 hour ago, DannyZuco said: Heck, Congress needs to hold themselves accountable for lack of ethics and abuse of power--but since the democrats control the house--I am guessing that you wouldn't support something like that. Because that would be against your SSDD!!!!! I’m cancelling his vote in November Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted May 16, 2020 Share Posted May 16, 2020 wait til a democrat holds office, all trumps folks are GONE lmfao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, NATUREBOY98 said: Independent my azz lol. You don’t even try and hide it anymore. Tired of trump, it'll do that to ya Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 18 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Just because someone, either party, is elected POTUS, doesn't actually mean they can't be held accountable for whom they hire or fire. In fact, there are processes for exactly that, because he isn't a king or a dictator. …Flashback: Obama Fired IG Who Pursued Ally Kevin Johnson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 10 hours ago, JETT said: Tired of trump, it'll do that to ya 2021-2024 gonna be a tough 4 years for ya. The first step is admitting you are wrong Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 21 minutes ago, ObiOne said: 2021-2024 gonna be a tough 4 years for ya. The first step is admitting you are wrong 2021-2024 going to be a rough 4 years for trump if he wins again, they're going to be after him on a daily basis exposing every bit of his frauds, and nothing done for American ppl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, Sportsfanatic1 said: …Flashback: Obama Fired IG Who Pursued Ally Kevin Johnson Hey @BarryLaverty was it "ok" for your president to do the same thing? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted May 17, 2020 Author Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, Sportsfanatic1 said: Hey @BarryLaverty was it "ok" for your president to do the same thing? Looks like President Obama followed procedure for removing someone that was seen as being 'overzealous' and struggling with issues, unlike anything so far with this or any of the other IG Trump firings. updated 6/12/2009 2:28:07 PM ET Obama fires AmeriCorps’ inspector general The Associated Press WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama says he has lost confidence in the inspector general who investigates AmeriCorps and other national service programs and has told Congress he is removing him from the position. Obama's move follows an investigation by IG Gerald Walpin finding misuse of federal grants by a nonprofit education group led by Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, who is an Obama supporter and former NBA basketball star. Walpin was criticized by the acting U.S. attorney in Sacramento for the way he handled the investigation of Johnson and St. HOPE Academy, a nonprofit group that received hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal grants from the Corporation for National and Community Service, which runs the AmeriCorps program. St. HOPE Academy ended up repaying more than $400,000 in government funds. "It is vital that I have the fullest confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general," Obama said in a letter Thursday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joe Biden, who also serves as president of the Senate. "That is no longer the case with regard to this inspector general." The president didn't offer any more explanation, but White House Counsel Gregory Craig, in a letter to Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, cited the U.S. attorney's criticism of Walpin to an integrity committee for inspectors general. "We are aware of the circumstances leading to that referral and of Mr. Walpin's conduct throughout his tenure and can assure you that the president's decision was carefully considered," Craig wrote. Grassley had written Obama a letter pointing to a law requiring that Congress be given the reasons an IG is fired. He cited a Senate report saying the requirement is designed to ensure that inspectors general are not removed for political reasons. Grassley said Walpin had identified millions of dollars in AmeriCorps funds that were wasted or misspent and "it appears he has been doing a good job." Messages left for Walpin seeking comment were not immediately returned. Misuse of funds The IG found that Johnson, a former all-star point guard for the Phoenix Suns, had used AmeriCorps grants to pay volunteers to engage in school-board political activities, run personal errands for Johnson and even wash his car. In August 2008, Walpin referred the matter to the local U.S. attorney's office, which said the IG's conclusions seemed overstated and did not accurately reflect all the information gathered in the investigation. "We also highlighted numerous questions and further investigation they needed to conduct, including the fact that they had not done an audit to establish how much AmeriCorps money was actually misspent," Acting U.S. Attorney Lawrence Brown said in an April 29 letter to the federal counsel of inspectors general. Walpin's office made repeated public comments just before the Sacramento mayoral election, prompting the U.S. attorney's office to inform the media that it did not intend to file any criminal charges. The U.S. attorney's office reached a settlement that requires the St. HOPE Academy to repay nearly $424,000 — almost half of the $850,000 it received — in return for the government lifting its suspension on future grants. Brown said at the time of the settlement that prosecutors determined there was no fraud, but rather a culture of "sloppiness" in St. HOPE's record-keeping. Bush appointee Kevin Hiestand, chairman of the board of St. HOPE Academy, said in a statement it was "about time" Walpin was removed. "Mr. Walpin's allegations were meritless and clearly motivated by matters beyond an honest assessment of our program," he said. Ken Bach, who works in the inspector general's office at the national service corporation, will be acting inspector general until Obama appoints someone to the position. Walpin, a New York attorney, was appointed by then-President George W. Bush and sworn into office in January 2007 after being confirmed by the Senate, according to a news release on AmeriCorps' Web site. Walpin graduated from College of the City of New York in 1952 and received a law degree in 1955 from Yale Law School. He was a partner with the New York City law firm Katten Muchin and Rosenman LLP for more than 40 years. Alan Solomont, a Democrat and the board chairman of the government-run corporation, and Stephen Goldsmith, a Republican and the board's vice chair, said they strongly endorsed Obama's decision Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 2 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: Looks like President Obama followed procedure for removing someone that was seen as being 'overzealous' and struggling with issues, unlike anything so far with this or any of the other IG Trump firings. updated 6/12/2009 2:28:07 PM ET Obama fires AmeriCorps’ inspector general The Associated Press WASHINGTON — President Barack Obama says he has lost confidence in the inspector general who investigates AmeriCorps and other national service programs and has told Congress he is removing him from the position. Obama's move follows an investigation by IG Gerald Walpin finding misuse of federal grants by a nonprofit education group led by Sacramento Mayor Kevin Johnson, who is an Obama supporter and former NBA basketball star. Walpin was criticized by the acting U.S. attorney in Sacramento for the way he handled the investigation of Johnson and St. HOPE Academy, a nonprofit group that received hundreds of thousands of dollars in federal grants from the Corporation for National and Community Service, which runs the AmeriCorps program. St. HOPE Academy ended up repaying more than $400,000 in government funds. "It is vital that I have the fullest confidence in the appointees serving as inspectors general," Obama said in a letter Thursday to House Speaker Nancy Pelosi and Vice President Joe Biden, who also serves as president of the Senate. "That is no longer the case with regard to this inspector general." The president didn't offer any more explanation, but White House Counsel Gregory Craig, in a letter to Sen. Charles Grassley, R-Iowa, cited the U.S. attorney's criticism of Walpin to an integrity committee for inspectors general. "We are aware of the circumstances leading to that referral and of Mr. Walpin's conduct throughout his tenure and can assure you that the president's decision was carefully considered," Craig wrote. Grassley had written Obama a letter pointing to a law requiring that Congress be given the reasons an IG is fired. He cited a Senate report saying the requirement is designed to ensure that inspectors general are not removed for political reasons. Grassley said Walpin had identified millions of dollars in AmeriCorps funds that were wasted or misspent and "it appears he has been doing a good job." Messages left for Walpin seeking comment were not immediately returned. Misuse of funds The IG found that Johnson, a former all-star point guard for the Phoenix Suns, had used AmeriCorps grants to pay volunteers to engage in school-board political activities, run personal errands for Johnson and even wash his car. In August 2008, Walpin referred the matter to the local U.S. attorney's office, which said the IG's conclusions seemed overstated and did not accurately reflect all the information gathered in the investigation. "We also highlighted numerous questions and further investigation they needed to conduct, including the fact that they had not done an audit to establish how much AmeriCorps money was actually misspent," Acting U.S. Attorney Lawrence Brown said in an April 29 letter to the federal counsel of inspectors general. Walpin's office made repeated public comments just before the Sacramento mayoral election, prompting the U.S. attorney's office to inform the media that it did not intend to file any criminal charges. The U.S. attorney's office reached a settlement that requires the St. HOPE Academy to repay nearly $424,000 — almost half of the $850,000 it received — in return for the government lifting its suspension on future grants. Brown said at the time of the settlement that prosecutors determined there was no fraud, but rather a culture of "sloppiness" in St. HOPE's record-keeping. Bush appointee Kevin Hiestand, chairman of the board of St. HOPE Academy, said in a statement it was "about time" Walpin was removed. "Mr. Walpin's allegations were meritless and clearly motivated by matters beyond an honest assessment of our program," he said. Ken Bach, who works in the inspector general's office at the national service corporation, will be acting inspector general until Obama appoints someone to the position. Walpin, a New York attorney, was appointed by then-President George W. Bush and sworn into office in January 2007 after being confirmed by the Senate, according to a news release on AmeriCorps' Web site. Walpin graduated from College of the City of New York in 1952 and received a law degree in 1955 from Yale Law School. He was a partner with the New York City law firm Katten Muchin and Rosenman LLP for more than 40 years. Alan Solomont, a Democrat and the board chairman of the government-run corporation, and Stephen Goldsmith, a Republican and the board's vice chair, said they strongly endorsed Obama's decision What about Obama's misuse of funds? You know, like the money he was sending Iran? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sportsfanatic1 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 @BarryLaverty I found this. You and I would have fired him to..... 10 hrs · "Linick attempted to play a role in the impeachment of President Donald Trump last year by approaching Congress with information that he appeared to think was relevant—it was not." President Donald Trump fired State Department inspector general Steve Linick on Friday night, causing a massive reaction from those on the political Left. “Trump informed Congress of his intent to oust Linick, a Justice Department veteran appointed to the role in 2013 by then President Barack.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 It's good to be a democrat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ObiOne Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 3 hours ago, JETT said: 2021-2024 going to be a rough 4 years for trump if he wins again, they're going to be after him on a daily basis exposing every bit of his frauds, and nothing done for American ppl They are already after him daily. I think he could probably get a lot of good done for America in his next 4 years, but if he doesn't....I'd rather have nothing done than what the dems want. Which is more handouts to buy votes and turn us into socialists. If they like Europe so much, move there. Don't tear down our great country and make it a s-hole. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 12:49 PM, BoHogg said: The problem with firing an inspector general is because of the role they play. I get the at will status and I assume these positions are such. This firing and other IG firings are compounded even more by coming at near the end of his term instead of not immediately after taking office. That's some slow at will decision and swamp draining. When IGs are found to be acting in a corrupt or partisan manner, they are part of the entrenched swamp .... President Trump should have done a better job of cleaning house and firing these Obama era holdovers sooner instead of waiting until there's a problem ... most newly elected Presidents do it almost immediately .... President Trump waited until there was a reason to fire many of these bad apples and that was a mistake ... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DAWG91 Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 On 5/16/2020 at 12:52 PM, Sportsfanatic1 said: Two things Trump is not....A liar or a crook. Has to be the least corrupt, and certainly most investigated person on the planet. Yet still, nothing but conjoured up allegations from his detractors, that quickly fade away as soon as they're put under any real scrutiny. Instead of realizing the error of their ways and accepting reality, they simply concoct a new fairy tale. Rinse and repeat. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 17, 2020 Share Posted May 17, 2020 1 hour ago, DAWG91 said: Has to be the least corrupt, and certainly most investigated person on the planet. Yet still, nothing but conjoured up allegations from his detractors, that quickly fade away as soon as they're put under any real scrutiny. Instead of realizing the error of their ways and accepting reality, they simply concoct a new fairy tale. Rinse and repeat. If the Hilldabeast had won in 2016, we would have never uncovered the cesspool of corruption in the Obama years ... it would have been business as usual .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 Unfortunately, all AGs are not nonpolitical ... in these positions, their bipartisan integrity must be beyond reproach .... while i agree this AG needed to be fired, I agree that President Trump should have followed protocol and given congress 30 days notice and his reason for removal .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 (edited) Duplicate post .... Edited May 18, 2020 by KirtFalcon yo mama Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 14 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Unfortunately, all AGs are not nonpolitical ... in these positions, their bipartisan integrity must be beyond reproach .... while i agree this AG needed to be fired, I agree that President Trump should have followed protocol and given congress 30 days notice and his reason for removal .... BS, "drain the swamp" as you call it..... Susan Collins is a smart lady and does her job the correct way, she was 1 of the rare ones on the right who wanted to hear witnesses in the impeachment trial the rest were just doing what they were told... wouldn't be surprised if she was attacked by trump and his minions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, JETT said: BS, "drain the swamp" as you call it..... Susan Collins is a smart lady and does her job the correct way, she was 1 of the rare ones on the right who wanted to hear witnesses in the impeachment trial the rest were just doing what they were told... wouldn't be surprised if she was attacked by trump and his minions Susan Collins is liberal RINO ... she sides with the anti-Trump dimocrats more often than not ... she needs to be replaced with a conservative senator .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted May 18, 2020 Author Share Posted May 18, 2020 6 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: she needs to be replaced She will be, by her Democratic opponent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: She will be, by her Democratic opponent. Got em Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 10 minutes ago, KirtFalcon said: Susan Collins is liberal RINO ... she sides with the anti-Trump dimocrats more often than not ... she needs to be replaced with a conservative senator .... crazy how whoever don't agree or bow down to trump needs to be replaced or some BS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KirtFalcon Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 2 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: She will be, by her Democratic opponent. No, I said a CONSERVATIVE senator ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BoyzNdaHood Posted May 18, 2020 Share Posted May 18, 2020 17 minutes ago, BoHogg said: Which is it, walking dogs and washing dishes or selling arms to Saudi Arabia? selling arms to saudi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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