BarryLaverty Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 (Since we have so many experts on here, thought I would share this. You're welcome!) Chicken pox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years. Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years. HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system, and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years. Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood. So far the symptoms may include: Fever Fatigue Coughing Pneumonia Chills/Trembling Acute respiratory distress Lung damage (potentially permanent) Loss of taste (a neurological symptom) Sore throat Headaches Difficulty breathing Mental confusion Diarrhea Nausea or vomiting Loss of appetite Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young) Swollen eyes Blood clots Seizures Liver damage Kidney damage Rash COVID toes (weird, right?) People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill. Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths. This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know. For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity: How dare you? How dare you risk the lives of others so cavalierly. How dare you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30 year olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died. How dare you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as: Frequent hand-washing Physical distancing Reduced social/public contact or interaction Mask wearing Covering your cough or sneeze Avoiding touching your face Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term. I reject the notion that it's "just a virus" and we'll all get it eventually. What a careless, lazy, heartless stance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RETIREDFAN1 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 Yawn..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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BarryLaverty Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 Should I have thrown up shiny pictures and colorful graphs to explain like you're Trump, so as not to bore you with facts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarryLaverty Posted July 5, 2020 Author Share Posted July 5, 2020 I absolutely feel a strong sense of responsibility for others, and I am more than aware that I am blessed for getting paid during a time of struggling for millions. But, this isn't a 'hoax' less than the common cold, and so when we have people partying like maniacs, refusing to follow even the most basic safety measures, even though the Republican governor put a mask mandate in place, I think putting some reality and science out there isn't a bad reminder to have. As a friend of mine said to me yesterday, if people will stop being (sphincters), we can hold on and manage this thing and get it under control, until a vaccine is available. They said if they are forced to close again, that will be it for their business, which is a HEALTH CARE FACILITY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Coach Rab Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 You or your copied work, easily left out all of the viruses that you catch once, get over, and never deal with again. Or even the most similar virus to COVID, influenza. This was a waste of my time reading your 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BlahBlah Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: Should I have thrown up shiny pictures and colorful graphs to explain like you're Trump, so as not to bore you with facts? Yes, do the Ross Perot thing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 3 hours ago, MavGrad99 said: You or your copied work, easily left out all of the viruses that you catch once, get over, and never deal with again. Or even the most similar virus to COVID, influenza. This was a waste of my time reading your Barry Gladys equates quantity with Quality; He has a Ph.D which, in His case, means “Piled higher & Deeper...” 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youngcoach123 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 4 hours ago, BarryLaverty said: I absolutely feel a strong sense of responsibility for others, and I am more than aware that I am blessed for getting paid during a time of struggling for millions. But, this isn't a 'hoax' less than the common cold, and so when we have people partying like maniacs, refusing to follow even the most basic safety measures, even though the Republican governor put a mask mandate in place, I think putting some reality and science out there isn't a bad reminder to have. As a friend of mine said to me yesterday, if people will stop being (sphincters), we can hold on and manage this thing and get it under control, until a vaccine is available. They said if they are forced to close again, that will be it for their business, which is a HEALTH CARE FACILITY! Vaccine?? You want us all to wear mask and social distance until a vaccine is made available 6-12 months from now? show of hands who will take a rushed to consumer vaccine?? NOT THIS GUY! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CarthDawg77 Posted July 5, 2020 Share Posted July 5, 2020 20 minutes ago, Youngcoach123 said: Vaccine?? You want us all to wear mask and social distance until a vaccine is made available 6-12 months from now? show of hands who will take a rushed to consumer vaccine?? NOT THIS GUY! But it will Come from China... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vandalman Posted July 6, 2020 Share Posted July 6, 2020 17 hours ago, CarthDawg77 said: But it will Come from China... Probably true, and so do the stinky masks we're breathing through lol. Can't see everyone wanting to line up for that... I know I'm certainly not enthusiastic about it... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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