TTman7 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 42 minutes ago, BarryLaverty said: In the final count, Hillary Clinton’slead in the popular vote of the 2016 presidential election was nearly three million votes. According to the independent, non-partisan Cook Political Report, Clinton’s final tally came in at 65,844,610, compared to Donald Trump’s 62,979,636, with a difference of 2,864,974. The total number of votes for other candidates was 7,804,213. That translates to about 46% of the vote. That would be a minority. ...in this scenario, Killary's total is only 48% of the vote. That's a minority too then. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 50 minutes ago, HearEmaGrowlin said: @TTman7 , Democrats are talking about the popular vote nationwide, just the grand total and do not want to look at the Electoral College. They want it abolished and they want to let in as many illegal aliens as possible and get them approved to vote thinking they’ll all vote Dem. It’s only about obtaining and retaining power forever for the Democrats. They do not care what laws they have to break or change or who they have to hurt. They do not truly care about immigrants as they only want their votes. To paraphrase, they don’t care about America or Americans. They just want power 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, TTman7 said: Yea, I know. I was making the point that President Trump won the Electoral College vote. Which is only what has ever mattered. Fify Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TTman7 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, DB2point0 said: Fify ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 Just out of curiosity, could someone explain why we have the electoral college in the first place? I’m just wondering what types of excuses that people will come up with in order to not say the true reason for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HearEmaGrowlin Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: Just out of curiosity, could someone explain why we have the electoral college in the first place? I’m just wondering what types of excuses that people will come up with in order to not say the true reason for it. In your opinion, what is the true reason the electoral college exists? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 1 hour ago, PepeSilvia said: Just out of curiosity, could someone explain why we have the electoral college in the first place? I’m just wondering what types of excuses that people will come up with in order to not say the true reason for it. Why don’t you tell us instead. It has already been posted a couple of times Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 I’ll give you a hint. So one candidate doesn’t win 16 states and become president. It makes the candidate have to politic across the country, gives smaller states good representation and something else Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 13 minutes ago, Raiderfan7000 said: https://history.house.gov/Institution/Electoral-College/Electoral-College/ Good facts but doesn’t talk about the history as to why it started. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 45 minutes ago, DB2point0 said: I’ll give you a hint. So one candidate doesn’t win 16 states and become president. It makes the candidate have to politic across the country, gives smaller states good representation and something else Is that why it was started? I don’t think so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, PepeSilvia said: Is that why it was started? I don’t think so. Well tell us why!!! We are waiting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pilgrim Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 2 hours ago, HearEmaGrowlin said: In your opinion, what is the true reason the electoral college exists? So that NEITHER popular vote NOR congress could select the President - 12th amendment changed that. Madison and Hamilton did not like the idea of winner take all electoral college, Hamilton had drafted an amendment to prevent winner take all and at large electors - but died before he could propose it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PepeSilvia Posted July 12, 2020 Share Posted July 12, 2020 25 minutes ago, Raiderfan7000 said: I believe so three states cannot speak for the majority . I am guessing on that part. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DB2point0 Posted July 13, 2020 Share Posted July 13, 2020 58 minutes ago, Pilgrim said: So that NEITHER popular vote NOR congress could select the President - 12th amendment changed that. Madison and Hamilton did not like the idea of winner take all electoral college, Hamilton had drafted an amendment to prevent winner take all and at large electors - but died before he could propose it. The original idea came from the Virginia plan that used the congress to elect the president. It was just a model, but was never given real consideration as the framers didn’t want Congress electing due to them wanting a separation of powers. The electoral college we have now was a compromise of a national popular vote and a congressional elected president. So yes, you are correct on that part, but it gives better representation to the entire country instead of the more heavily populated areas. They discovered this after they put it into use Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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