alyssaB Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 11 minutes ago, kingwolf said: It means Pine Tree has been historically white and not very good. Now they have a growing minority population and the team reflects that... That was my guess but I wanted to be sure about it. Thanks. But I knew a lot of nearly all White teams that were powerhouses. Princeton is only about 1/3 White now and they are still small and not playing that strong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 13 minutes ago, alyssaB said: But I knew a lot of nearly all White teams that were powerhouses. You'll notice that almost all of those are in Metroplex areas. I've yet to see a nearly all white team on the 5A/6A level that wasn't in the Metroplex areas. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 hour ago, LoboFan07 said: You'll notice that almost all of those are in Metroplex areas. I've yet to see a nearly all white team on the 5A/6A level that wasn't in the Metroplex areas. when you say metroplex areas you talking big cities in general rather than just the DFW metroxplex cause Westlake and Lake Travis aren't in the metroplex. Neither is Katy, although they have more minorities as of late. At the lower levels there are other mostly white schools that are very good in football. In 5a/6a Corpus Calallen is a powerhouse, Amarillo High is usually pretty good too. Not sure if Midway counts anymore. Regardless, the point of my post was not about Pine Tree being good or bad, I just notice that Pine Tree football team was always mostly white and now its majority minority which shows a major shift in demographics in west Longview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LoboFan07 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 7 hours ago, JTFAN99 said: when you say metroplex areas you talking big cities in general rather than just the DFW metroxplex cause Westlake and Lake Travis aren't in the metroplex. Neither is Katy, although they have more minorities as of late. Metroplex areas, Dallas...Houston...Austin. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mavchamp Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 16 hours ago, JTFAN99 said: Took a look at Pine Tree's roster.....This ain't the same Pine Tree anymore. The demographics have changed alot in west Longview. Marshall dropped classification in 2003 and PT was already majority minority by then. The shift started in the 90s or before. PT’s demographics reflect about the same as all of the East Texas 5A schools outside of Whitehouse and Hallsville.... who are both White Flight schools. Most 5A schools in ETx have shrinking white student populations, steady black populations, and a rapidly growing Hispanic population. Some schools have just done a better job of inclusion and recruiting of Hispanic players (Marshall, Sulphur Springs, THS) into football while others have struggled (Mount Pleasant, Jax) JMHO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JTFAN99 Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 6 hours ago, Mavchamp said: Marshall dropped classification in 2003 and PT was already majority minority by then. The shift started in the 90s or before. PT’s demographics reflect about the same as all of the East Texas 5A schools outside of Whitehouse and Hallsville.... who are both White Flight schools. Most 5A schools in ETx have shrinking white student populations, steady black populations, and a rapidly growing Hispanic population. Some schools have just done a better job of inclusion and recruiting of Hispanic players (Marshall, Sulphur Springs, THS) into football while others have struggled (Mount Pleasant, Jax) JMHO maybe the Pine Tree football team was majority minority but the according to TEA, the school didn't become majority minority to after 2010. Also, Lindale (which just dropped) was also another E TX 5a majority white school. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Anyone know if this scrimmage is being live streamed? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 2 hours ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: Anyone know if this scrimmage is being live streamed? Nope but I hope so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Who is at the scrimmage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyJohnson Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 hours ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: Anyone know if this scrimmage is being live streamed? Yes. I'll have some "semblance" of a stream. Unfortunately, I have no Tyler information and can't see any numerals on the Lions jerseys from the Pressbox here at the stadium. It will be what we have with mostly PT information since we do the call of Pine Tree Pirate Football. We'll be on shortly. RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 4 minutes ago, RandyJohnson said: Yes. I'll have some "semblance" of a stream. Unfortunately, I have no Tyler information and can't see any numerals on the Lions jerseys from the Pressbox here at the stadium. It will be what we have with mostly PT information since we do the call of Pine Tree Pirate Football. We'll be on shortly. RJ Okay cool can you post the link? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RandyJohnson Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Link: Pine Tree Pirate Football on YouTube. Or go to PTISD.org for link on this page too. (See "Pirate logo" on that page!) RJ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Based on of the first drive, looks like we gone get roasted by Texas high lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 17 minutes ago, NODAYSOFFTX said: Based on of the first drive, looks like we gone get roasted by Texas high lol. Offense has been so so, but tge secondary and lb core needs alot of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NODAYSOFFTX Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 13 minutes ago, CUJONATION83 said: Offense has been so so, but tge secondary and lb core needs alot of work A whole lot of work Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I can see us getting better, but we have A LOT TO WORK ON PERIOD 🗣🗣🗣 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowboyandchrist Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 6 minutes ago, CUJONATION83 said: I can see us getting better, but we have A LOT TO WORK ON PERIOD 🗣🗣🗣 How does Pine Tree look. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, CUJONATION83 said: I can see us getting better, but we have A LOT TO WORK ON PERIOD 🗣🗣🗣 That’s what the scrimmage is for to find out what you need to work on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Just now, cowboyandchrist said: How does Pine Tree look. Their offense is LEGIT! GOOD play calling as well. Tyler high has alot work to do and we're going to have some struggles early on. Pine tree definitely will compete for district Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 JT fans, I told you PT is pretty good. I know it’s just a scrimmage .... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 25 minutes ago, cujoforlife said: That’s what the scrimmage is for to find out what you need to work on. True. We're going to make changes and adjustments. We got beat by an experienced team. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 9 minutes ago, Matt said: JT fans, I told you PT is pretty good. I know it’s just a scrimmage .... You were right Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Watched some of it. JT will be fine, always have athletes. Good luck this year! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cujoforlife Posted September 19, 2020 Author Share Posted September 19, 2020 32 minutes ago, CUJONATION83 said: True. We're going to make changes and adjustments. We got beat by an experienced team. And Sanchez is clearly the better passer out of the two qb’s. He just needs to work on the get the ball where he wants it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CUJONATION83 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Yep time to move on Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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